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Agobot
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Message 16 of 30 (482238)
09-15-2008 2:58 PM


Unbecoming
This topic is unbecoming of such a great forum as EVC. Sorry for being offtopic(not that it would make any sense to be on topic).

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Message 17 of 30 (482251)
09-15-2008 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Rahvin
09-15-2008 1:12 PM


Ever wonder why Britain never gets hit with a hurricane? Or Saudi Arabia? It's because the specific meteorological conditions that spawn hurricanes happen in a specific region of the world,...
That's just what the Evil Atheistic Meteorological Conspiracy wants you to think. Actually, they don't get hurricanes because Allah won't send them to those places - too many Muslims in both.
He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies: he shall wound the heads over many countries.
Ah, johnfolton! So you admit that this God guy of yours is too puny to stop Allah from sending his wrath against the heathen Christians!
This topic is unbecoming of such a great forum as EVC.
No foolin'! But we have johnfolton here to keep us amused.
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Message 18 of 30 (482261)
09-15-2008 5:18 PM
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09-15-2008 4:23 PM


So you admit that this God guy of yours is too puny to stop Allah from sending his wrath against the heathen Christians!
Not at all akjv psalm 91:1, akjv Romans 2:3
It will take only one angel to grab Allah (the great satan) and bind and seal in a hole in the earth. Allah is whispering in the muslims ear that they should destroy Israel by strapping bombs but all that is happening is the muslims themselves are being cut into pieces how is this not fullfilling Zehariah 12:3 Zechariah 12:1 clarifies the God of the bible is the creator that stretches out the heavens and layeth down the foundations of the earth and formeth the spirit of man within him. If the God of creation is doing battle with Allah then Allah is the great deciever the dragon the great satan,etc... Tell it like it is the devil goal is to be God and he has the entire muslim nation worshipping him unawares.

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Message 19 of 30 (482269)
09-15-2008 5:45 PM
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09-15-2008 5:18 PM


I can assure you that it is the Christian 'god' that is going to look damn stupid, along with all his Christians, on the day of judgement - Azathoth will kick his puny arse out of existence. Some 'gods' just don't know when they've taken the piss one time too many...

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Message 20 of 30 (482276)
09-15-2008 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Rahvin
09-15-2008 2:09 PM


So, you have no evidence you deity exists, no evidence to support your assertion that natural disasters are the direct result of "God's Wrath,"
Gods wrath is to happen after the rapture and the reaping of the first resurrection akjv rev chapter 15 but agree Katrina was more about Gaza a prophetic link to the the coming apocalypse.
I don't hate you but the bible says not to do the same things, think its talking to normal marriage not to lay as a man to a man with your wife thus to leave judgement to God but know the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. akjv zephaniah 2:4 Thus a lot of wifes husbands like you do such abominations and God sees all thats done in secret. It then says akjv romans 2:5when you harden your heart your treasuring up wrath against thyself against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God which is what were talking about in respect to the apocolypse that the giving up of Gaza is signalling the coming apocolypse.
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A terrible warning: 'Gaza Will Be Forsaken' . . .
Recently the world watched as all the Jews in Gaza were forcibly removed from their homes and their land ... even the dead Jews were forcibly dug up from their graves and removed from Gaza. This 'uprooting' of the Jews from Gaza which the whole world watched on the news may be a much more 'significant' prophetic event than most realize, and the Bible warns there is more to come . . .
In the book of Zephaniah, God warns Gaza would one day 'be forsaken' (yes, that same Gaza you have now been watching on the world news). Gaza is in the land which was given to the tribe of Judah (Joshua 15:1-12), and one of Messiah's titles is "The Lion of the Tribe of Judah." The Bible links the forsaking of Gaza to the coming 'Apocalypse,' which is also called 'The Day of Wrath' and the 'Day of the Lord's Anger."
http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/...1%20Israel%20Jerusalem.html
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Message 21 of 30 (482279)
09-15-2008 6:03 PM
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09-15-2008 5:18 PM


Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey. Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe: all mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. It went like this paws and began to think. First of the tree, put his place was out walking, without its means something. Think super-fractal. We realize that it is better to extend proactively than to aggregate intuitively.
Zint supol-blaxandaxar. Wo loaxarizo zaxat dit dis fottol te oxtoct pleaxandivorupp zaxan te axagglogaxato dinkuitivorupp. Vaxailzupp peaxats pi pezupp peaxats pi rightro raxamzupp ivoupp.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 22 of 30 (482286)
09-15-2008 6:31 PM
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09-15-2008 5:45 PM


I can assure you that it is the Christian 'god' that is going to look damn stupid, along with all his Christians, on the day of judgement
I just find it interesting as were moving toward the apocalypse you have at CERN starting up one of the largest ever accelerator. Is it safe? Actually it says on the day of judgment after the apocalypse and after the 1000 year reign of Christ from Jerusalem the second death shall have no power. All those that have ever lived that are not of the first resurrection will be resurrected to life at the great judgement before the great white throne. The second death is all that will matter because those of the second resurrection are at risk of being tossed into a lake of fire if they have not accepted Christ the Word as their saviour.
'Big Bang' machine could destroy the planet, says lawsuit
By Tom Leonard in New York
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 01/04/2008
Environment - The Telegraph
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Message 23 of 30 (482289)
09-15-2008 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by johnfolton
09-15-2008 5:58 PM


quote:
So, you have no evidence you deity exists, no evidence to support your assertion that natural disasters are the direct result of "God's Wrath,"
Gods wrath is to happen after the rapture and the reaping of the first resurrection akjv rev chapter 15 but agree Katrina was more about Gaza a prophetic link to the the coming apocalypse.
I don't hate you but the bible says not to do the same things, think its talking to normal marriage not to lay as a man to a man with your wife thus to leave judgement to God but know the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. akjv zephaniah 2:4 Thus a lot of wifes husbands like you do such abominations and God sees all thats done in secret. It then says akjv romans 2:5when you harden your heart your treasuring up wrath against thyself against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God which is what were talking about in respect to the apocolypse that the giving up of Gaza is signalling the coming apocolypse.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
A terrible warning: 'Gaza Will Be Forsaken' . . .
Recently the world watched as all the Jews in Gaza were forcibly removed from their homes and their land ... even the dead Jews were forcibly dug up from their graves and removed from Gaza. This 'uprooting' of the Jews from Gaza which the whole world watched on the news may be a much more 'significant' prophetic event than most realize, and the Bible warns there is more to come . . .
In the book of Zephaniah, God warns Gaza would one day 'be forsaken' (yes, that same Gaza you have now been watching on the world news). Gaza is in the land which was given to the tribe of Judah (Joshua 15:1-12), and one of Messiah's titles is "The Lion of the Tribe of Judah." The Bible links the forsaking of Gaza to the coming 'Apocalypse,' which is also called 'The Day of Wrath' and the 'Day of the Lord's Anger."
None of that tripe consisted of evidence supporting the existence of your deity or your idea that hurricanes are punishments sent from that deity.
Further, you continued to ignore the vast majority of my post for a second time. It seems to me you aren't here for debate, but rather to preach your homphobic bigoted anti-intelligence bullshit.
So, we know you're a bigot who thinks gay people deserve to die in a hurricane. You haven't disputed this - you responded with a "justification" by essencially saying that "otherwise morally abhorrent things are A-Okay if God does it," which basically means your religion is simply your outlet for your disgusting bigotry. You're correct that the Bible actuively supports such disgusting "morality," but then many (most?) Christians manage to have their faith without being homophobic or racist, whereas you grab onto the Fred Phelps "God punishes America for tolerating FAGS!!!!" drivel.
We also know that you "debate" by ignoring anything you disagree with, which means you're a willfully ignorant blowhard who's here to preach rather than discuss.
And of course we know that you don't even comprehend the word "evidence" or how to go about supporting an argument aside from spewing out Bible verses, not even really tying those verses in with anything in reality to show how your natural disasters are directly related to them.
You're just a moron, john. I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet, honestly, since your posts typically contain no content beyond the rantings of an ignorant madman with delusions of grandeur.
You honestly believe (I can't use the word "think" with you, as you seem incapable of thinking) that hurricanes that strike strongholds of pro-Israel and anti-gay sentiments are punishments for anti-Israel and anti-gay sentiments. You're no better than Ray with his astoundingly stupid "the widespread acceptance of evolution is a punishment from God for the widespread acceptance of evolution" bullshit.
You ignore the fact that the formation and behavior of hurricanes and other natural disasters are very, very well-known, and insist that your magical genocidal sky-pixie is instead responsible, because he'd be really pissed off at America right now. Or so you insist - I imagine it's difficult for fictional entities to be angry.
I'm sure you beleive that lightning strikes are the "Wrath of God" as well, rather than a well-understood electrical phenomenon. Earthquakes tend to strike San Francisco because of all the gay people, not the fault line, right? I'm sure Tornado Alley happens to go right through the Bible Belt because those people aren't real Christians, right? It cant be due to well-understood seasonal atmospheric behavior, natural disasters must be sent by God!
All that sciency-stuff is just a lie from the devil, right? Except for the occasional whacko you think agrees with you...then science is okay.
So at what point exactly after all of this apocalyptic nonsense about the Rapture and other Revleations-type events do we get to say "see, you were wrong?" Oh, wait, that's right - you aren't being objective, you aren't willing to accept contrary evidence or even respond to a contrary argument, and you'll never critically examine your own beliefs, because that's not what you do with faith-based apocalyptic nonsense. Instead, you'll ignore anyone with an IQ higher than freezing, pick individual sentences from full-length posts, and continue to re-post the same idiotic nonsense ad nauseum.
After all, you have God on your side, right? That means you can't possibly be wrong, and the rest of us are just heathen unbelievers who will be cast into the eternal fire, along with the gays who rightfully deserve to be murdered and tortured for eternity for having dared engage in that icky, icky buttsex!
Idiot. Enjoy wallowing in your own self-indulgent bigoted ignorance and stupidity.

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Message 24 of 30 (482291)
09-15-2008 6:43 PM
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09-15-2008 6:32 PM


None of that tripe consisted of evidence supporting the existence of your deity
Gaza the prophecy that it would be forsaken has been fullfilled. A Prophecy happening that was prophecied thousands of years before it happened. akjv zephaniah 2:4
P.S. Your abomination is just part of all the other abominations that refuse to repent thus bringing on the wrath of God. God pleading for Israel and the world like you is not listening yet when the world takes Jerusalem instead of giving the land to Israel. When the nations of the earth take jerusalem it will be taken at that point in time the Lord will come out of heaven and stand on the mount of olives and the kings of the earth that battle against will be destroyed becoming it says a great supper for the fowl. And from jerusalem shall the saints and the lord reign from jerusalem. akjv zerchariah 14:5
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Message 25 of 30 (482294)
09-15-2008 6:47 PM
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09-15-2008 6:31 PM


Have you ever looked into the deity that is worshipped by the majority of CERN scientists? You may think that atheism would be predominant but you would be wrong. At this deity is certainly not the Christian god and it is very much interested in bringing about the end of the world. I can't say any more, but it is definitely worth your time looking into this.

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Message 26 of 30 (482295)
09-15-2008 6:57 PM
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09-15-2008 6:47 PM


Have you ever looked into the deity that is worshipped by the majority of CERN scientists? You may think that atheism would be predominant but you would be wrong. At this deity is certainly not the Christian god and it is very much interested in bringing about the end of the world. I can't say any more, but it is definitely worth your time looking into this.
It's Gozer, isn't it. Are you the keymaster? What form will the Traveller take?!

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Message 27 of 30 (482300)
09-15-2008 7:12 PM
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09-15-2008 6:57 PM


What form will the Traveller take?
A giant Slor. Last time that happened, many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it felt like to burn in hellfire, I can tell you.

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Message 28 of 30 (482304)
09-15-2008 7:22 PM
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09-15-2008 6:43 PM


Hi John Folton,
Please stop posting for a while. Take a few days off. I'll suspend you if you don't take the advice.

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Message 29 of 30 (482305)
09-15-2008 7:29 PM
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At this deity is certainly not the Christian god and it is very much interested in bringing about the end of the world.
Prophecy says not to have other gods but that victory is the Lords. Guess it does not matter the victory is the Lords and Jerusalem shall be taken back from those that refused to listen to the Lords pleadings about the land.
P.S. All you are able to do is tape the superbowl while working and not talk to anyone to not know the outcome before viewing the tape.
Prophecy however is knowing an outcome before it happens or taping the super bowl in the future and watching it before going to work.
This is not possible for man but to God he knows not just the past but the present and the future. We have a God of unlimited power that lays claim to the land of Israel and the world is not listening. Instead all you will find is them mocking, but if the Lord is all powerful is that wise to be listening to the devil,also called the great satan, also called allah, etc...

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09-15-2008 7:43 PM


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