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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5499 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5499 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Buz, I appreciate your kind words. (Most of the trouble I get into here is of my own making.) Where did you live from 1935 to 1960? Regionality might affect one's interpretation of history. I may be bias about what those changes meant from having too much of a Midwestern exposure.
”HM
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5499 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
nj writes:
Wikipedia reminds me of the "Human Clock" at a folk-rock festival I attended once in the early 70s. It was a large clock with a face made of cardboard and crayoned numbers and broomsticks for hands. It had no other working parts, but it always told the correct time, plus or minus a minute or two. How do you suppose that clock worked 24 hours a day for three consecutive days? The same goes for Wikipedia. While it is probably accurate for the majority of things, we all need to remember that it is a user net, and anyone can edit it any time. My point here is that some new kind of awareness, some new sort of collective consciousness replaced an older one in our brave new post-war world. From Human Clocks to Wikipedia, from the Encyclopedia Britanica to Google and so forth, life changed in dramatic ways that suggest to me that new powers had emerged to alter the course of mankind. ...or maybe carboard clocks and digital librarians are nothing more than fancified tools that have always emerged in the course of human history. Nothin' very special at all. Just novelty stuff with no modern meaning whatsoever. Maybe I had better go ask Google if that's true, for the sake of great historians like jar. ”HM
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
My point here is that some new kind of awareness, some new sort of collective consciousness replaced an older one in our brave new post-war world. From Human Clocks to Wikipedia, from the Encyclopedia Britanica to Google and so forth, life changed in dramatic ways that suggest to me that new powers had emerged to alter the course of mankind. Never before has so great a population had unprecedented access to knowledge in so many arena's with the speed and ease we do now. Its the increase of knowledge. Who could say anything bad about that? Well, just like anything else, there is almost a con to be found among the pro's. Our utter dependency and complete reliance on our technology is the very thing that makes us so vulnerable, either to sabotage or an enormous crash. We'd be thrust back in to the Dark Ages, except that this time, many more would die because we are not equipped to survive under those kinds of conditions. That's a lot more Orwellian. Sorry for the tangent, but I think the problems with what you started the topic on run deeper than mere intellectual reliance on the internet, but of our very lives. “This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5499 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Omnivorous writes:
I don't know. Could there be a recursive, mastermind effect that comes back to haunt us? Take security cams in public places, for example. New York's Mayor Bloomberg said recently that everyone on New York's streets and in its parks are now being watched and recorded by security cameras. This also seems true now for many of NY's private places. You can't even pick your nose anymore without MasterCam taking a live-action picture of it. And you can't make a credible argument on Internet forums anymore without consulting MasterGoogle. Oh, this must be what Orwell was taking about! How can Google be all powerful? It offers access to multiple dissenting views on almost every question, so what Google self-interest could be considered malignant? ”HM
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5499 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
NJ, what's your take on the so-called Singularity?
”HM
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
NJ, what's your take on the so-called Singularity? I've had a lengthy discussion about such things on another thread with a fly-by-night poster about a year ago. http://EvC Forum: Why doesn't AI Falsify ID? -->EvC Forum: Why doesn't AI Falsify ID? “This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
And you can't make a credible argument on Internet forums anymore without consulting MasterGoogle. I'm sure you can if you actually know what you are talking about. TTFN, WK
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Hoot Mon writes: Wikipedia reminds me of the "Human Clock" at a folk-rock festival.... Very good. You might not be completely beyond hope after all.
...or maybe carboard clocks and digital librarians are nothing more than fancified tools that have always emerged in the course of human history. Exactly. “Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” -- Joseph Goebbels ------------- Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5499 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
WK writes:
I'll be examining your posts carefully from now on for any evidence of googleism. I'm sure you can if you actually know what you are talking about. ”HM
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
Ah, but sometimes I don't know what I'm talking about, or at least I don't know enough to support a particular position. When I do, as in discussions of molecular biology or developmental biology, I have pre-existing knowledge and better sources than Google to turn to.
I'm not saying that using Google as a source is necessarily a problem provided one approaches the material with a critical eye and takes time to separate the wheat from the chaff. TTFN, WK Edited by Wounded King, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I'm not saying that using Google as a source is necessarily a problem provided one approaches the material with a critical eye and takes time to separate the wheat from the chaff I think that is actually closer to the real issue. We do not seem to be teaching folk how to discriminate, and so having unlimited data diminishes its real worth. We need to do a better job of teaching folk to discriminate, to refine their BS detector. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5499 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
People who must tell other people they don't know what they're talking about are usually the ones who really don't know what they are talking about. And I don't need Google to support this claim; I've got EvC.
”HM
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
Well you would say that since there are several threads which provide eloquent testimony to your own lack of knowledge and the many times you have been called on it. Sadly I doubt looking at such threads would offer much support for your claim.
TTFN, WK
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5499 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Hey, what do you exect from a civil engineer? Scintillating brilliance? At least we know what to expect from chemists...plastic Tinkertoys.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I'm sure you can if you actually know what you are talking about. I'm not so sure about that. I've been on the stupid-looking end of remembering something confidently and wrong often enough that I think it's wise to google things (or, more often, wiki things) to prevent making serious unintentional boners. I think it's more important to look up the things you think you know than the reverse, actually.
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