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Fosdick 
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Message 16 of 120 (431700)
11-01-2007 4:03 PM
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11-01-2007 3:22 PM


Gramps knows more than you do.
You boys need to keep in mind that we older people are closer to history than you are. Therefore we know more. Can you tell me, without consulting Lord Google Almighty, what you know about the Zuit Suit Riots or how the Silent Generation got its name? They explain everything from post-war pop fashion to roots of twentieth-century social rebellion.
”HM

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Taz
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Message 17 of 120 (431701)
11-01-2007 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Fosdick
11-01-2007 12:50 PM


I use google may be once a week to look up something. I do use google news a lot though. I just click on the news button and read the articles that come up.

Disclaimer:
Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style.
He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!

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Taz
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Message 18 of 120 (431703)
11-01-2007 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Fosdick
11-01-2007 4:03 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
Hoot writes:
Can you tell me, without consulting Lord Google Almighty, what you know about the Zuit Suit Riots or how the Silent Generation got its name?
I have news for you. Even if you told us to google to figure out what these things were, I would still not google. I'd just wait for someone to say something about it to learn what it is.
But to answer your question directly, I don't have a clue what the hell those things are.

Disclaimer:
Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style.
He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!

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ringo
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Message 19 of 120 (431704)
11-01-2007 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Fosdick
11-01-2007 4:03 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
Hoot Mon writes:
You boys need to keep in mind that we older people are closer to history than you are.
Closer doesn't necessarily give you a better view. You can't see the forest for the trees, as they say.
They explain everything from post-war pop fashion to roots of twentieth-century social rebellion.
Ah, but roots have roots and those roots have roots and those roots have roots.... Don't jump into the middle of history and pretend that what you remember is the beginning of all.
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As for Google, a wider variety of information should make us more selective, but does it?
When we eat at a restuarant with forty items on the menu, we don't just pick the first one. The Google buffet might have forty million items, so it isn't practical to consider them all - but we should still make an effort to sample more than the specials that Google recommends.

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subbie
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Message 20 of 120 (431709)
11-01-2007 5:02 PM
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11-01-2007 4:06 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
Can you tell me, without consulting Lord Google Almighty, what you know about the Zuit Suit Riots...?
Yes. I don't need to consult google to know that I know absolutely nothing about the Zuit Suit Riots.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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crashfrog
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Message 21 of 120 (431715)
11-01-2007 5:41 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Fosdick
11-01-2007 4:03 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
Can you tell me, without consulting Lord Google Almighty, what you know about the Zuit Suit Riots
Just from memory of 8th-grade civics, without any verification via internet (as you request), and therefore extremely tentatively and almost certainly wrongly on many counts, the Zoot Suit Riots (I do remember that you've spelled it wrong) were a series of altercations between shore-leaved sailors and the local gangs, who dressed in striped, baggy suits called "Zoot suits", that arose amid the swing clubs of late 1950's San Francisco.
Or something. Some city in California, some sailors, some guys in funny suits with big hats, switchblades, and swing music is all I remember. I imagine a fair bit of that is conflated with Zoot Suit Riot, the first album from Cherry Poppin' Daddies, back in 1997. The above was an attempt to fill in the blanks with guessing. (I'm usually pretty good at that, or at least convincing.)

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jar
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Message 22 of 120 (431721)
11-01-2007 6:03 PM
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11-01-2007 5:41 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
You're pretty close to right on. (also without using Google)

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Fosdick 
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Message 23 of 120 (431732)
11-01-2007 7:08 PM
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11-01-2007 5:41 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
cf writes:
Just from memory of 8th-grade civics, without any verification via internet (as you request), and therefore extremely tentatively and almost certainly wrongly on many counts, the Zoot Suit Riots (I do remember that you've spelled it wrong) were a series of altercations between shore-leaved sailors and the local gangs, who dressed in striped, baggy suits called "Zoot suits", that arose amid the swing clubs of late 1950's San Francisco.
Gosh, you're right about the name. I don't know where I came up with "Zuit" instead of "Zoot." I shouldda googled it. But I think it took place in LA in the mid 40s. I equate it with the first wave of juvenile delinquency, which was setting into an incipient youth culture while all our fathers where away at war. By the time they got home the worms were out of the can, and even I, a corny Midwestern kid, was wearing peg pants by the late 40s.
”HM

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Fosdick 
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Message 24 of 120 (431735)
11-01-2007 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by ringo
11-01-2007 4:32 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
Ringo writes:
Closer doesn't necessarily give you a better view. You can't see the forest for the trees, as they say.
History is like Chinese Whispers. The closer you are to the source the more accurate the reporting.
”HM

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Wounded King
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Message 25 of 120 (431736)
11-01-2007 7:22 PM
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11-01-2007 7:08 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
even I, a corny Midwestern kid, was wearing peg pants by the late 40s
with an onion on my belt....which was the style at the time.
TTFN,
WK

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ringo
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Message 26 of 120 (431742)
11-01-2007 8:20 PM
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11-01-2007 7:20 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
Hoot Mon writes:
The closer you are to the source the more accurate the reporting.
As I said, The Source™ - of "juvenile delinquency", for example - goes back millennia, not decades. Effectively, you're no closer to the source than anybody else.
Here's what I Googled:
quote:
I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless
beyond words. When I was a boy, we were taught to be discrete and
respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise and
impatient of restraint.
--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C.
quote:
"The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of
today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for
parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as
if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is
foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest
and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress."
--- Peter the Hermit, 1274

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Fosdick 
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Message 27 of 120 (431744)
11-01-2007 9:00 PM
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11-01-2007 7:22 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
WK writes:
with an onion on my belt....which was the style at the time.
We didn't have onions, but we had skinny, leather belts to hold up our pegged pants. My GI father and I had wars over it.
”HM

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Fosdick 
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Message 28 of 120 (431745)
11-01-2007 9:03 PM
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11-01-2007 8:20 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
Ringo writes:
Here's what I Googled:
Back to my point precisely!
”HM
Edited by Hoot Mon, : No reason given.

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crashfrog
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Message 29 of 120 (431753)
11-01-2007 9:31 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Fosdick
11-01-2007 7:08 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
But I think it took place in LA in the mid 40s.
After I answered I Wiki'd it, and you're right. LA, 1942. And it was sailors and soldiers vs. Mexican-american gangs, I had thought they were Italians for some reason.
Anyway I gave it the ol' college try, because you asked.
I equate it with the first wave of juvenile delinquency, which was setting into an incipient youth culture while all our fathers where away at war.
Ah, so you're the Silent Generation.

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crashfrog
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Message 30 of 120 (431754)
11-01-2007 9:32 PM
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11-01-2007 9:00 PM


Re: Gramps knows more than you do.
I don't understand what "pegged pants" are.

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