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portmaster1000
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Message 16 of 26 (143351)
09-20-2004 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by jar
09-20-2004 10:38 AM


Re: Serendipity Not Lost
Good dressing Jar! Your post has serendipitously gave me an idea for dinner
I think I'll modify it for an easy Thai dressing, substituting the basil with cilantro, worchester with fish sauce and toss in a few Thai peppers serving it over cold noodles.
thanx
PM1K

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TechnoCore
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Message 17 of 26 (143355)
09-20-2004 1:52 PM
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09-17-2004 9:22 PM


Another good encyclopedae is this one:
Everything2
I can just get stick reading and reading wandering around subjects

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jar
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Message 18 of 26 (143371)
09-20-2004 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by portmaster1000
09-20-2004 1:12 PM


Re: Serendipity Not Lost
Actually, one of the modifications I often make to it is to add ginger and very finly chopped onion. Makes a great Ginger dressing as well. When available you can substitute fresh fruit. Fresh berries also work well but if you used seeded berries be sure to strain them before adding.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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crashfrog
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Message 19 of 26 (143545)
09-21-2004 1:40 AM
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09-20-2004 10:38 AM


Get a bunch of tomatos (I prefer the Better Boys if you can find them), slice in quarters and blend in blender. Add olive oil, basil, a clove fresh garlic run through a galic press and blend again. Once it's fully blended add salt, a small amount worchester sauce and some water to bring it to the consistency you want. Add the water slowly blending and tasting between each addition.
Add a little pepper-flavored vodka and you'd have yourself a hell of a bloody mary.

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Wounded King
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Message 20 of 26 (143566)
09-21-2004 7:37 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by coffee_addict
05-18-2004 1:25 PM


The discovery of Penicillin
Dear Lam,
I'm afraid I just have to say something about your garbling of what is almost certainly, as you suggest, the most famous incidence of serendipity in biology if not in the whole of science.
Penicillin was identified and isolated by Nobel prizewinner Sir Alexander Fleming. He noticed that a mold growing on a plate of Staphylococcus produced a bacteria free region around itself and showed that such the mold culture anti-bacterial was highly effective even when highly diluted.
He also identified lysozyme another important anti-bacterial agent.
Your version of events is somewhat lacking in any resemblance to what actually occurred. Unless you were actually thinking of a different event.
I just found a lovely little anecdote having typed in fleming and serendipity into google.
TTFN,
WK
P.S. I agree with the general conclusion that the internet has not killed off the serendipitous discovery of information, it has just had a severe impact on the quality of that information.
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Wounded King
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Message 21 of 26 (143567)
09-21-2004 7:57 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by coffee_addict
05-18-2004 1:14 PM


Slapdashh Scholarship on the internet
Dear Lam,
I think that the internet is a 2 edged sword when it comes to scientific information. With the advent of more open access publishing coming on stream it is getting to the point where a fair proportion of current scientific literature, especially in the biological sciences, is becoming freely available online.
I think it is far preferable for everyone to be able to look at the actual primary resarch papers and discuss things on that basis rather than have to give second hand interpretations filtered through FAQs or message boards.
I think it is the prevalence of FAQs claiming to provide ready to use predigested information on a variety of subjects that is the problem. Sometimes it seems like many of the debates here almost end up as a mere reiteration of points from FAQs on opposing sides of a debate.
How many times are creationists pointed to the 29+ evidences for macroevolution FAQ, and I'm not saying that it isn't a good FAQ. How are people without a good grounding in the ways of scientific research supposed to be able to evaluate the relative merits of the 29+ FAQ as opposed to some equally well presented creationist FAQ?
There is defintite scope for the level of scholarship in such debates to be raised by the resources available on the internet. The problem is educating people as to the best way to debate these things. Of course, this may just be what I consider the 'best' way other people may have their own opinions.
TTFN,
WK

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CK
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Message 22 of 26 (143589)
09-21-2004 9:31 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Wounded King
09-21-2004 7:57 AM


Re: Slapdashh Scholarship on the internet
Very true - check this out for a good example:
http://EvC Forum: Giant People in the bible? -->EvC Forum: Giant People in the bible?

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Wounded King
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Message 23 of 26 (143615)
09-21-2004 10:51 AM
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09-21-2004 7:37 AM


Re: Have I been Had
Reading the thread in the right order I wonder if I have fallen for a joke on Lam's part. His post complaining about abysmal levels of science knowledge seen in some debates, and the contribution of the internet to that, was immediately followed by a horrifically garbled account of the discovery of Penicillin.
An example of Lam's subtle and twisted sense of humour or a hugely ironic cock-up? Only Lam can know for sure.
TTFN,
WK
P.S. Damn, am I a sucker or not? I hate not knowing.

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purpledawn
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Message 24 of 26 (144272)
09-23-2004 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by jar
09-20-2004 10:38 AM


Re: Serendipity Not Lost
Hey Jar,
The dressing turned out very good.
Thank you for the recipe.

A gentle answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.

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jar
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Message 25 of 26 (144276)
09-23-2004 9:07 PM
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09-23-2004 8:58 PM


Re: Serendipity Not Lost
Glad you enjoyed it. Mahaps we can start a favorite XYZ recipe thread.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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purpledawn
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Message 26 of 26 (144278)
09-23-2004 9:16 PM
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09-23-2004 9:07 PM


Re: Serendipity Not Lost
That sounds like a plan!
We heard from the movie section, now we can hear from the food section.

A gentle answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.

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