Let's talk about drugs

I too, had a *friend* who had too many shrooms. *He* regained his senses by looking at his driving licence to remember who he was.Then *he* spent the next four hours holding *his* best friend's partner's hand, crying every so often and having a fascinating voyage through a Borg Cube.There were imps involved, as well, somewhere along the line.

A friend of mine purposly hyperventilated breathed real fast in a crouching position then stood up rapidly while he was stoned immediatetly he fell to the ground on some gravel the rest of uf laughing are arse of a few moments later we heard some crunching sounds we found out he was eating the rocks that somehow got into his mouth we got him back to reality as best we could then he told us that he was at home eating chips during the episode.

LOL... That's called an elevator here in the US. Usually the hyperventilating is followed by a bong hit....then your dumb-ass friend squeezes you to prevent a good breath from entering your lungs...when you loose conciseness, due to lack of oxygen, he hopefully sets you down carefully while you shake like a fish out of water.... aint brain damage cool?Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.

Hi CS, It really isn't. At least, not when it's good. MDMA is a very different beast, much more user friendly than LSD. It mostly works on your mood, changes your outlook. The hallucinatory aspect is much less intense. Where acid tends to amplify whatever mood you happen to be in, MDMA tends to directly make you happy. You feel, by turns, elated and energetic, then calm and filled with a sense of inner peace. You tend to feel an enhanced sense of empathy with others. If they're on it as well, you feel an profound sense of connectedness. The body rush comes and goes.I think it's worth trying. It can be genuinely therapeutic, since it can show you another side to yourself; happier, kinder, more confident and more loving. I've seen it really transform people for the better. It does have its risks though. It's not something to use too often. Personally, I prefer MDEA, which has less of the body buzz (which is more associated with MDA, methalone, etc) and more of the emotional effects. It is also more powerfully hallucinogenic in the way that an LSD user might recognise. Doesn't turn up very often though.Of course, if you really want acid style visuals whilst on ecstasy, there is a way... just take both! I doubt that, since it's gone out of fashion on both sides of the pond. I suspect that the demand for acid simply fell through when people started to realise how pleasant E was. E isn't as unpredictable as acid. There is very little chance of a "bad trip". For a lot of people, that made acid kind of obsolete. Ah. Sounds nice, but I just physically cannot smoke that stuff. It's like smoking hay. Not enough active ingredient, you have to smoke through great bales of it. Or maybe I've just had bad batches. I would be interested to try some of the concentrated preparations though. I might actually be able to inhale enough to get a high before I went into respiratory arrest. Yeah, yeah... My friend (seriously, this wasn't me) is quite an accomplished psychonaut. I've watched him determinedly trying to walk through a wall, because he thought there was a magic gateway in it. My favourite of his headfuck anecdotes is the time he lost his hand inside a solid object.He went to hit a button on his stereo. His hand apparently disappeared inside the stereo, as if he were reaching into water. The whole hand seemed to disappear, into a solid piece of plastic, right up to the wrist. Then he found it was stuck in there, like it was set in concrete. He was stuck there for a good half an hour, long enough that his arm got tired before it finally plopped out.Later that night the police came to arrest him for vagrancy. In his own home. He reckons he managed to give them the slip because he could see through walls.Apparently Cubensis mushrooms are kinda like that.Mutate and Survive

Hi granny,I have seen a few things recently about using MDMA as a treatment for post traumatic stress disorder here in the US. As I have said I have never done it but Knowing how connected LSD, Shrooms has made me feel then I think it is a reasonable field of study.Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.

Hi F+L,In that sort of field, given a choice between LSD and MDMA, I would go with ecstasy every time. It's just got a better track record of creating positive experiences. Acid is more powerful and might a have quicker or more profound effect, but it might also go horribly, horribly wrong.Mutate and Survive

Sup Gramps, It pretty much is... granting the "really" qualifier wasn't necessary. But when acid is good, its way stronger... so in that regard it makes EX a weak version of it. Indeed. And don't get me wrong, I'm familiar with the effects of EX. But as you say, it's a different animal. Still though, Extasy *is* "like weak acid". Agreed. I'm weary of recommending drugs to others because it can fuck them up, but yeah. Yup, but any trip can do that. I'd recommend acid because, with the noraml person on the normal dose, you're more likely to get those "results". Normal EX doses tend to just make you feel fantabulous, but without all the therapeutic stuffs. ** upon second read: I didn't mean to imply that it doesn't make you happier, etc., but that the "showing you of another side" seems to be less prevalent with EX use than with acid. Its worth mentioning that the effects can be, and the long-term effacts are, detrimental. There's this stuff called "Molly's" (short for molecules) that's supposed to be straight MDMA. I haven't established the differences between MDEA, MDA, and MDNA, etc. But thanks for the recommendation. Where do people get MDEA? O RLY? Interesting. One supplier mentioned what I said and it added up, but I never bothered to look into it. Not everyone! I'd prefer the stronger efficacy for particular occasions and the other for others. Having the option is a definately a plus. I'm suprised the quality dropped like it did..I could go deep into the "bad trip" topic, but that'd prolly be better for a different string in this thread cause its gonna be long enough as it is. They're making concentrates, with various #'s of X's, like 10X or 20X. But you really need a water bong to get the temp and "flavor" down. And it has to be burned really hot, like with one of those blue-flame butane lighters. Better safe than sorry, I guess... and I don't know how well my anonymity is doing these days. There's a lot of embelishment in the psychonaut trip-recollection world... For sure they can be. But bad trips are gonna hafta be for another string.I'm goin to bed.

"It's not just the pills talking, man, I really mean it!" hehehe The technique as explained to me is just to breathe in very deep and hold your breath for as long as possible. I wouldn't recommend it though - I hated salvia. It's only a brief experience, but I couldn't really remember where I was nor, more importantly, why I was hallucinating. Maybe this is just me, but it was very unpleasant.

Subjective experiences vary, but I found the effects of LSD and MDMA to be totally dissimilar, and the physiological basis of the effects are quite different.As for the claim that LSD is more likely to result in you being "happier, kinder, more confident and more loving", that seems a very unusual interpretation to me. One of the most noticeable effects of MDMA is the surge of empathy and lovingness that makes you gush out your heart to random strangers with ensuing morning regret. LSD, on the other hand, is far more likely to induce feelings of paranoia then MDMA, at least from personal experience and all anecdotal reports I've ever heard.

Not sure if that is what CS was saying.E make you feel luvdup and shrooms and acid make you see things.

Sort of like this?? , I've been close...no reptile people though A bit of FearOne of the funniest/disturbing works HS Thompson done, you either get it or don't...if you do well then you might just be traveler.AbE, also...Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.

Weak LSD, or small doses, can make you feel like you're rolling and also, Strong MDMA, or large doses, can make you feel like you're tripping. That's not what I meant.I agree that MDMA is is more likely to result in you being "happier, kinder, more confident and more loving".But also that can come from tripping. LSD tends to amplify what you're already feeling so if its happy, you'll be really happy, but on the other hand, if you're scared, then you're shitting your pants.

LSD can be scarey and long winded without escape.MDMA at it's best is all consuming, empathetic, ecstatic, spiritual, dance frenzy-ish, trippy, hallucinogenic, sobering and all sorts of other things that make you feel at one with yourself and your fellow man.Ecstacy is good but MDMA powder so much betterAcid trips are something I these days avoid

Hi, I couldn't agree more with you. As I approach 40 I dont think I want to try MDMA either? LSD/shrooms always screwed with me longer then I want...I LIKE TO SLEEP. The next day is always the worst...seems like weed has no effect...grey is only word that comes to mind.When I was younger I loved to trip, and did so way too much. LSD is unpredictable, IMO. One time it's all funny...or introspective...or you have an epiphany...or maybe just get "The Fear"...Or all of the above...That's no fun for most adults.

Ha ha!I imagined your name was significant.