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Topic: The Half Blood Prince
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Message 31 of 55 (224961)
07-20-2005 5:23 PM
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To All You Harry Potter Killjoys
For god's sake. Read the damn books. If it takes you an afternoon to get through the first three you need to have your eyes checked. It's not without reason that they're popular; they're actually good books. Ripping good yarns. Subversive fiction in the best tradition of "it'll fool you into letting your kids read it." Going out to get it this afternoon. You small-souled folk need not bother, I suppose.
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jar
Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 32 of 55 (224966)
07-20-2005 5:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 31 by crashfrog
07-20-2005 5:23 PM
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Re: To All You Harry Potter Killjoys
Actually, I'm trying to read it right now. And so far it's been pretty boring but I promise to struggle on. Pretty sure the ending though will be as expected.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Message 33 of 55 (224969)
07-20-2005 5:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 32 by jar
07-20-2005 5:29 PM
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Re: To All You Harry Potter Killjoys
If you read it, and don't like it, that's fine. Just because a book is good doesn't mean that every single person likes it. But I see a whole lot of people here who are all like "hey, they're popular, so they must be crap. Nothing is any good if people like it." What's the sense in that? Or acting proud of it?
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jar
Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 34 of 55 (224970)
07-20-2005 5:39 PM
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Reply to: Message 33 by crashfrog
07-20-2005 5:34 PM
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Re: To All You Harry Potter Killjoys
Sorry but I've never taken that attitude that I know of. I think it's great if it gets kids to read. It's certainly as good as the Hardy Boys series.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Message 35 of 55 (224972)
07-20-2005 5:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 34 by jar
07-20-2005 5:39 PM
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Re: To All You Harry Potter Killjoys
Sorry but I've never taken that attitude that I know of. No, and I didn't mean to imply that you did. I was referring to others and I apologize if I wasn't sufficiently clear in that. You're at least trying to read the book, after all.
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Chiroptera
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Message 36 of 55 (224977)
07-20-2005 6:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 31 by crashfrog
07-20-2005 5:23 PM
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Re: To All You Harry Potter Killjoys
There are a billion books in the world that are at least as good as the Harry Potter series, and more being published every year. None of us have time to read every single book that someone thinks is worth recommending. You'll just have to get used to those of us who set our priorities differently than you do.
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Michael
Member (Idle past 4659 days) Posts: 199 From: USA Joined: 05-14-2005
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Message 37 of 55 (225007)
07-20-2005 7:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 29 by NosyNed
07-20-2005 1:25 PM
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Re: banning oneself
NosyNed writes: If we were to follow about 75% of what is posted here we would now go into a very, very lengthy discussion of whether my admin alter is "myself" or not. We would examine, in great depth, the rules of the forum and some would conclude it said one thing and others another thing. Some would argue that "myself" is split into a separate admin spirit and a base, rule bound body. Some might suggest that if one was banned the other would be unable to communicate in the regular realm while others would say that would free the remaining "self" to transcend the ordinary rules of the forum. At 300 posts the same things would be being repeated for the 23th time. But here we have a rare opportunity to move from the realm of academic discussion into that of investigation. What would happen if an administrator was forced to ban him/herself? Will it be one of the two scenarios that you present, or something else? Percy Himself invites the test in message 30:
Percy writes: So who died? ?
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NosyNed
Member Posts: 9003 From: Canada Joined: 04-04-2003
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Message 38 of 55 (225009)
07-20-2005 8:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 32 by jar
07-20-2005 5:29 PM
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Enjoying it
MMMM,  If you don't get tinglies reading the first 50 pages of the first book then I think the rest can be forgotten. The scene on the dark island just before and when Hagrid arrives wasn't done as well as I would like in the movies. But if that doesn't do it for you then I'd suggest the books aren't going to work for you. Too bad. This message has been edited by NosyNed, 07-20-2005 10:14 PM
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Re: To All You Harry Potter Killjoys
You'll just have to get used to those of us who set our priorities differently than you do. Set them how you like. I have no argument with someone whose reading list means that they're probably not going to get to it. As you can see from my posts that isn't the attitude that I'm responding to.
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Ooook!
Member (Idle past 5836 days) Posts: 340 From: London, UK Joined: 09-29-2003
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Message 40 of 55 (225048)
07-21-2005 5:18 AM
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Reply to: Message 31 by crashfrog
07-20-2005 5:23 PM
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Re: To All You Harry Potter Killjoys
It's not without reason that they're popular; they're actually good books. Ripping good yarns. Subversive fiction in the best tradition of "it'll fool you into letting your kids read it." I agree with you, but add the qualifier "They are written for kids". If you read any of the HP series you've got to accept that you are not going to be blown away by the plot or complex interaction between characters. When I read any of the books I tend to regress to a more child-like state in my mind so I won't be disappointed (kind of like when I read the Da Vinci code) and let the 'ripping good yarns' pull me along.  Slightly OT: has anyone read the 'His Dark Materials' trilogy by Phillip Pullman - now that's subversive!
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Tusko
Member (Idle past 122 days) Posts: 615 From: London, UK Joined: 10-01-2004
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Message 41 of 55 (225050)
07-21-2005 5:40 AM
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Reply to: Message 21 by crashfrog
07-19-2005 9:01 PM
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Hi there - since you mention Banks - have you given The Algebraist a go? My dad bought it for me some time back but I haven't got around to reading it yet. It sounds wicked though.
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Tusko
Member (Idle past 122 days) Posts: 615 From: London, UK Joined: 10-01-2004
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Message 42 of 55 (225051)
07-21-2005 5:47 AM
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Reply to: Message 40 by Ooook!
07-21-2005 5:18 AM
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Re: To All You Harry Potter Killjoys
Dark Materials were great, though maybe the Amber Spyglass wasn't the brilliant finale it could have been? Still great though. They're a hell of a lot more involving than Potter, as far as I can ascertain. I'm reading the Potters at the moment (halfway through 4) because a friend's lent them to me. They are fine, though they don't really enthuse me like Dark Materials did. The repetitious elements from book to book are comforting but mean Rowlingville feels a lot smaller than Pullmanland. Rowling is also quite Blytony, with all the ripping yarn stuff. I like her most when she has fun with the incidental details.
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Andya Primanda
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Message 43 of 55 (225066)
07-21-2005 8:00 AM
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Reply to: Message 42 by Tusko
07-21-2005 5:47 AM
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Re: To All You Harry Potter Killjoys
Agree with Tusko. I finished the HDM trilogy at the beginning of this year and I'd say they're more appealing to me than HP. Then again HDM does have a generally darker/more mature theme than HP... not something I'd recommend to ten year old kids [maybe for those a bit older--15-17?]
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Message 44 of 55 (225189)
07-21-2005 3:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 42 by Tusko
07-21-2005 5:47 AM
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Re: To All You Harry Potter Killjoys
They're a hell of a lot more involving than Potter, as far as I can ascertain. Funny, I felt the exact opposite. I felt that the characters in the Pullman novels were flat, little more than cut-out archetypes. On the other hand I've always gotten a very strong sense of realness from the Harry Potter characters and world.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1364 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 45 of 55 (225291)
07-21-2005 8:45 PM
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Reply to: Message 30 by Percy
07-20-2005 5:08 PM
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uh, not again percy!
So who died? looks like jar's gonna have to ban you again, percy.... you just won't learn will you! lol.
אָרַח
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