First of all love and lust don't have two different words, that is in any way separable from sex between the two. Remember people "make love"... that's sex. I might add that in some cultures there is no word for "love", and in other cultures there are many more than two.
When it is said that people make love, they are expressing it physical.
First of all, that should be in a marrital relation ship.
Seccond of all, love is not just based on sex. Infact love itself has absolutley nothing to do with lust or sex.
Science has shown that the systems involved are different? Where? What are the different systems?
O come on, it was on the news along time ago. You can be inlove with somebody but not want to have sex with them or you can want to have sex with somebody and not be inlove with them.
I say you should just be inlove with someone and then sex can be thought about AFTER marrage.
Are you claiming that children are always born of lust and not love?
Children are born with love.
There are 3 types of love btw:
Philia - Brotherly love.
Eros - Romantic love.
Agape - Self-sacraficing all-sufficient love.
I don't even believe Eros is lust.
If you say you get angry and sick and hateful about it, then yes your anger has something to do with sex.
No, my anger has nothing to do with sex.
You said there is no love in the world. If you had felt it, how could you say it did not exist?
If you were smart at connecting the dots, you would come to the conclusion that I was angry because of unrequitted love.
That's going to be great on your honeymoon. And before you claim it will be different for the one you love, if you set yourself up into a pattern of behavior towards a certain stimulus, that's generally how you are going to react to that stimulus regardless of the source.
I don't know how I will react after marrage, that is
IF I ever get married.
First of all this sentence made no sense to me. It appears contradictory. Second you should not be trying to avoid judgement. That's not the point of man, even to a Xian. Other men shouldn't judge you, that includes pastors, and God already has judged you and no amount of trying not to react is going to fool him.
It's like this. Let's say that when somebody sex the word, "Sex" or "Pornography" you ussually don't care.
Now, with me its kind of complicated. If I am in the presence of a judgmental person, I will TRY not to react, even though ussually I don't care. Because I try not to react, I show some type of misleading reaction, but it is a very suttle reaction.
I already said it didn't matter whether you ended up wanting porn or not, or wanting to sleep around or not. Okay so you want to stick with Xian based monogamy, fine. The point I was making is that such negative reactions to sex as you are describing do not set you up to have a healthy sexual relationship within any relationship, including a monogamous one.
If you get so used to turning away and feeling sick or feeling angry, then what is going to happen when a girl attempts to arouse you?
If a girl attempted to sexually arouse me before marrage, I would have to get away from her.
Real women, or images of women? They had such images all over the place in his time, and there is such imagery in the Bible. Yet nowhere does it say one cannot or should not look at such images. Then again it does seem to proscribe masturbation, but what about sexual imagery made by a couple for their own pleasure?
When your looking at a picture of a woman your looking at the woman herself. When you see a woman on the news, do you not see the woman herself? The only difference is that you have a copy of her image, so it is not direct, but you are still bassically looking at her. For example let's say you take a picture of someone named opey. When you see his picture can you not say, that is Opey or that is a picture of Opey, you are still looking at Opey.
Looking lustfully at a woman includes pictures too.
This message has been edited by Guidosoft, 12-03-2005 10:10 AM
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