Photos confirm Ron Wyatt's Pharoah's Chariots discovery!!!

No problem, AIG. It's not that I'm offended. It's all part of the show here at EvC. It's that had someone not come on with a counterpart viewpoint, the serious bashers of the good research and exploration that has been accomplished would continue to indoctrinate the folks with the false notion that nothing Wyatt, Moeller and others accomplished had any worth or validity.I'm sure it looked as though I was leading off topic so I hope you see why some response to the mockery fun you're having was necessary from my point of view.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

That is what is so funny about this thread. Nothing Wyatt, Moeller and others accomplished had any worth or validity. In fact, the evidence in this thread is of a far higher quality than ANYTHING any of them ever produced.

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right. motorcycles age in water, and stuff will grow on them.

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Jar, your statement is so unsupportive and blatantly false that any other response would be a total waste of time since it appears that you you have blatantly rejected even the most obvious accomplishments of Wyatt and Moeller. Don't bother me to support this. All you need to do is read up on all that I and others have documented in the archives. I'm not saying we have supported, approved or proved all that these folks have accomplished, but to say there's nothing is just rediculous.

Hi kuresu.1. So (abe: also with) chariot parts in Aqaba.2. No chariot parts have been discovered in any other seas of the world. It just ain't coincidental that chariot parts encased in coral have been discovered precisely where the scriptures indicate for the event.3. Motorized vehicles are found worldwide in the sea bottoms.Summary: Mockery of the good research of Wyatt, Moeller and other (abe: Biblical theists) unjustified. Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Why cain't it be "just coincidental"?Even if Wyatt's Wheels are authentic, why cain't they be from some other, unrelated incident?And if all the other evidence of the Exodus has vanished - all the campsites, for example - why cain't any wheels that were in the water have vanished in like manner?Even if Wyatt's Wheels are authentic, it's a huge leap of logic to conclude that they're associated with the Exodus.

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If his stuff is so unsubstantiated that even AiG thinks it's rubbish, there can't be much to it, mate. Has the Ark of the Covenant Been Found? | Answers in Genesis

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Hi Subbie and thanks for the link. I have copied the segment on the chariot wheels and will comment on them. Which evidence is referred to here is not stated. The video or what?? Certainly the debris being photographed in the sea is not it. What archeologists have bothered to either do the research and verify or refute, or would be willing to? The fact is whether it's on the charts or not, it's there, extending across from the large Nuweiba beach extending out and across the gulf. It is quite deep in the middle, but with all the ship traffic over the centuries and with all the currents, et al likely much of the middle of it has eroded away so as for the middle of it to be deeper than when the crossing took place. I have the video of Moeller who did the research and photography, a marine biologist scientist who had the equipment to do the photography. certainly the evidence photographed was in the more relatively shallow areas of the sandbar. I don't know who this Gray is or how good his video is, but though it's been some time since I last viewed Moeller's video, I'm quite sure there was an arial video showing the existence of such a sandbar with the middle darker than the extend lighter shallows extending in from each side of the gulf.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Certainly you can't be serious, Ringo. If they're where the scriptures indicate and they show up there, do you realize the extremely impossible odds that some other event could explain their existence in the precise location?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Two things:What's your evidence that the sand bar is there?You're completely missing the point that Wyatt lied about his proof. If what he had was genuine, he wouldn't have to lie. The AiG page discusses instance after instance where Wyatt lied. It also discusses his refusal to let others examine his evidence to verify it.This site, No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.tccsa.tc/articles/wyatt.html, discusses various Wyatt claims and, near the bottom, includes several links to other sites that debunk Wyatt's nonsense. All of these sites are dispositionally predisposed to be sympathetic to people seeking archeological proof of biblical events.It is the height of irrationality to give any credence to a proven liar who won't let anyone else look at his work.

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Well, the scriptures don't really indicate with any precision where the crossing would have been. The best guess we have is the "Sea of Reeds", which makes Aqaba extremely improbable.If Wyatt's Wheels are authentic - which also seems extremely improbable - there is no reason whatsover to link them to the Exodus. Chariot wheels get lost all the time.

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Keep an eye on the Brian/Buzsaw great debate on the Exodus, Ringo. We'll eventually get to debating this reed sea vs red sea matter hopefully. In the debate we've touched on the sea controversy lightly and I gave a reference of where Aqaba is referred to by the same name of the Exodus whether you want to call it Red Sea as the translators have done in nearly all translations or whether you want to call it the Reed Sea. The reference is in the debate if you want to check it out.How many lost chariot wheels have been found in the seas of the world? Likely there's no discovery of any anywhere except at this spot. If you can find reference to any I'd like to hear about it.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

i searched through there a bit, but didn't see it. i saw some wonderful circular reasoning, though. perhaps you could provide that reference here again, for us in the peanut gallery? well, the name in the bible is certainly "Sea of Reeds" but what that means is up for debate. there are many places in the bible where translators choose to render modern names of places instead of the biblical names. in fact, there's one in the very same verse as the first mention of the sea of reeds: (mitsraim, or "egypt"). there are some translations of place names that are more questionable than others -- everybody's pretty sure they're talking about egypt in exodus.as far as -, the sea of reeds, it'd be a very weird name for the red sea, as (papyrus) only grows in fresh water, and the red sea is salt water.

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The problem is that Wyatt's Wheels aren't even close to being "a discovery". If you can find any scientific analysis indicating their authenticity I'd like to hear about it.

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Hi Arach. I Kings 9:26 is the reference where Aqaba is called the Red Sea. I checked this all out with my Hebrew English interlinear and I see you are right that the literal Hebrew in Exodus and Numbers is the Sea of Reeds. I see in this I Kings reference the literal is Red Sea, so we do have two different Hebrew words for these texts. The puzzling thing is why most translators chose to use the Red Sea. I guess your explanation makes sense. So I stand corrected on this matter. Thanks.Wherever the crossing was, according to the Bible the site needed to be an area large enough for a great multitude yet also needed to be mountainous enough to entrap them, so the Neweiba beach fits that whereas an actual reed marsh would not. Regardless of the name controversy, all the corroborating evidence is at Neweiba.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28