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Author Topic:   How from nothing everything appeared
whaler777
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Message 1 of 5 (408074)
06-30-2007 10:51 AM


New guy wants to hear from those that know how from nothing(empty space) to the magnificence planet we live in, and lets keep it on topic and to the point. No mumbo-jumbo here please let's leave that for another topic. Thanks. Remember i'm young and still thirsting for knowledge and direction so be specific with data to back up your answer.

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Message 2 of 5 (408078)
06-30-2007 11:05 AM
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06-30-2007 10:51 AM


Some reading perhaps...
We have a number of threads discussing the origin of the universe we see.
I suggest reading over those in the "Big Bang and Cosmology" forum.
If you can get a copy from your library the book "The Big Bang" by Singh is at a reasonable starting level.
Your opening post, as it stands, covers too many topics to be promoted.
The big bang is reasonably well understood. What caused the conditions that gave rise to it are more unknown than known so the whole answer might just be "we don't know". However, it wasn't from "nothing". However, if you want to avoid what you might think is "mumbo jumbo" then don't ask for a definition of "nothing". It seems (ask the cosmologists here) thst "nothing" isn't what you think it is.
As for the formation of the sun and earth after that, we understand the physics involved there pretty darned well and you can read up on that in books. It hasn't been much of a discussion item here because there isn't really anything controversial.
I suspect you think this issue is some problem for evolutionary biology. You should note that big bangs, stars and planets are not biological so the physics is very far removed from evolution.
The details of how our planet got to be the way it is do involve biology of course.
So you have three huge topics in your OP. I suggest you take your questions on each to appropriate threads.

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Message 3 of 5 (408096)
06-30-2007 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminNosy
06-30-2007 11:05 AM


Re: Some reading perhaps...
I guess this means i won't get any answers to my questions. Some how i figured this was going to happen. I must be in the wrong thread again? Sorry. I think the thread with the 747 having sex was more popular, way to go for the straw man.lol

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Message 4 of 5 (408099)
06-30-2007 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by whaler777
06-30-2007 1:49 PM


answers to your questions
There are, as I pointed out, threads in existence for you questions. You might try there first.
The problem with having too many topics in an opening post (OP) is that the thread wanders all over and no one can follow the discussion. For that reason alone your proposal as it stands will not be promotable.
If you really want answers there is lots of opportunity here to get them. Just follow the suggestions.
You can go to cosmology threads and see if there is an answer there. If not you can propose a more specific question as an OP.
ABE
re: strawman -- I'm glad you got the point of the sex and 747s title. It is precisely that such an analogy is a strawman of evolution and shows a total lack of understanding of what evolution is about. It is one of the sure signs that the person wielding that particular sword has picked it up from someone else and has no clue what they are saying.
Edited by AdminNosy, : finish the post

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Message 5 of 5 (409913)
07-12-2007 8:09 AM


No reply in over a week, closing this proposal down.

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