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astral
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Message 1 of 4 (497534)
02-04-2009 3:05 PM


There was a survey taken in the U.K. recently to see how many people believe in Evolution or Creationism, and the results were interesting.
I wrote a blog about this article because I liked it so much. I think we'll see a lot more about evolution in the news soon since it's the anniversary of Darwin's theory.
Evolve Your Mind
Here's the original article.
Half of Britons do not believe in evolution, survey finds | Evolution | The Guardian
An interesting site for anyone who supports evolution and wants to find out more about the anniversary events going on:
Theos Think Tank - Understanding faith. Enriching society.

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Dr Jack
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Message 2 of 4 (497620)
02-05-2009 4:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by astral
02-04-2009 3:05 PM


Hmm... I dubious of any survey of Evolution vs. Creation that did not even ask the people questioned whether they thought Evolution was correct, you can find the questions and data here.

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caffeine
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Message 3 of 4 (497622)
02-05-2009 5:07 AM
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02-04-2009 3:05 PM


That's a very inaccurate headline for the article. More than half of those surveyed not only believe evolution to be true; but believe it 'makes belief in God unnessecary and absurd'. Only 33% of respondents answered that atheistic evolution, making belief in God absurd, was probably or definitely untrue.
It's also worth pointing out that there was no question simply asking if they believed evolutionary theory, as described by modern science, to be accurate. In order to express support for this theory in the survey; one also had to declare God absurd. This didn't put most off, but implies a survey deliberately slanted to overexagerrate support for creationism.

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Message 4 of 4 (497645)
02-05-2009 10:35 AM
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02-05-2009 5:07 AM


caffeine writes:
It's also worth pointing out that there was no question simply asking if they believed evolutionary theory, as described by modern science, to be accurate. In order to express support for this theory in the survey; one also had to declare God absurd.
But people expressing support for what the survey called "theistic evolution" were also expressing acceptance of evolution. The big problem is that there are probably a broad range of interpretations of what "theistic evolution" is. Some might think it as "God put the universe in the motion and then just let things run their course." Others might think of it as, "God intervened to help evolution along," which overlaps with ID views. And the question itself (which states "evolution is the means that God used for the creation of all living things") seems to conflate evolution and the origin of life as well as being ambiguous about whether it included ID or not.
So no wonder the study thought there was some confusion, since the study helped contribute to it. The study is a nice try, but it is so difficult to clearly communicate what you're actually inquiring about when for each question you're limited to a single short sentence that I don't think it's of much value.
--Percy

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