In
Evangelical Support Group :: 21, Phat writes:
I am saying that logic, by definition (of the critics) is not ever arrived at any other way than through experiments and the scientific method.
I found this interesting, because it seemed to be an insight into what I have thought of as a common Religious misconception on the nature of logic and how it relates to empirical understanding. I think that 'Religious-ites' reject using logic partly”if not entirely”because they believe empiricism a
part of logic. Because they know that their God cannot/does not exist in the empirical world”or, at least not in an empirical sense”, they find that logic, to be logical, must reject God also as an inherent part of itself. For this reason, they reject logic.
Let's talk about this, however, because it is my belief that logic does
not require empiricism. Instead, I”and I'm assuming many others”see logic as a
method of evaluation based on progressive, fundamentally simplistic processes in thought and reason. In this sense, logic can be applied to
anything without having any fundamental affect on the precise nature of that
thing. I believe 'Religious-ites' see logic & God (scripture) to exist something like this:
empiricism + reasoning = logic
faith + reasoning = scripture
... where empiricism is built in to the definition of logic; you can't arrive at logic without it. In reality”at least as I believe”, however, logic/God (scripture) exists something such as this:
reality + logic = empiricism
scripture + logic = faith
In this sense, both empiricism and faith can use logic to come to conclusions that are, well, logical.
I would like to open this up to see what the Religious-ites on the board think of this”in accepting logic do you feel you would
also have to reject God and embrace empiricism? Also, what do the non- Religious-ites on the board think of this”does it seem to accurately explain the Religious-ite rejection of logic as a means for arriving at conclusions?
Jon
Edited by Jon, : Fixed link
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