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03-04-2023 12:07 PM


I am completely ignorant when it comes to AI. I listened to this talk by Jordon Peterson and I find it chilling. I'm proposing this topic not because I have a point to make but maybe I can learn something and it could lead to an interesting subject.
Jordon Peterson Prediction for 2023
ChatGPT can apparently produce university quality papers in 3 seconds on pretty much any subject you can name. I would guess that a sense of morality could be programmed into it but at the same time so could total depravity.
I suggest coffee House

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03-05-2023 9:35 AM
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It may seem a distinction that doesn't matter, but ChatGPT is not AI. AI has become, literally, the buzzword of the century, and everything including your thermostat claims to be AI these days.
Marvin Minsky worked with a collaborative group of computer scientists back in the 1950's whose focus was on machines that could think. They chose the term Artificial Intelligence, and at its heart was thinking.
While chatbots have become increasingly sophisticated since the 1960's, Eliza I think being the first, they do not think. They process data, and they do it very well.
That they don't think doesn't make the concerns raised by a chatbot of ChatGPT's capabilities any less, but that they don't think removes an entire class of concerns. It has no free will and can only do what it's programmers tell it to do.
Among the legitimate concerns, what is an English teacher to do when presented with a top class essay? Let's say it was from one of the better students so that it at least seems reasonable the student wrote the essay. How does the teacher determine if it was an original composition?
There are many similar conundrums. What does a newspaper do when it discovers a reporter has been having ChatGPT write his stories? Etc.
But my main point is that while the problems presented by ChatGPT are real, it isn't Ai. But if you look up AI in Wikipedia you'll find that the term has become watered down. There are dozens of categories of AI now. The little feature in map apps that gives you a list of locations that match what you've typed so far? Ten years ago that was just a neat feature. Now it's AI. That's what I mean by the term becoming watered down. It now seems to apply to any program that has a memory (gee, like EvC Forum) and can respond based on what's in memory (in our case, that would be the search function).
--Percy

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I am completely ignorant when it comes to AI. I listened to this talk by Jordon Peterson and I find it chilling
I doubt that Jordan Peterson knows any better than you. ChatGPT is not an AI, it just embodies some techniques from AI research, while lacking any real intelligence.
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ChatGPT can apparently produce university quality papers in 3 seconds on pretty much any subject you can name
Can it? Some have looked at its output and disagreed:
ACOUP
In a very real sense then, ChatGPT cannot write an essay. It can imitate an essay, but because it is incapable of the tasks which give an essay its actual use value (original thought and analysis), it can only produce inferior copies of other writing.
On an actual essay produced by ChatGPT:
Exact counting here will vary but I identified 38 factual claims, of which 7 were correct, 7 were badly distorted and 24 were simply wrong. A trainwreck this bad would absolutely have me meeting with a student and raising questions which – if the paper was machine written – might be very hard for the student to answer.
Add to that ChatGPT’s tendency to invent sources and it really isn’t something any college student should risk using.

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Message 5 of 152 (908021)
03-05-2023 10:18 AM
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Jordan Peterson?
People actually take seriously what he has to say?
He is a misogynistic, drug-addled bag of flatulence. He is the poster child of spouting idiocy outside of his area of expertise. He is a clinical psychologist. Nothing more. He is not an expert in anything else.

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03-05-2023 10:31 AM
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Here's an interaction I just had with ChatGPT:
MeHow big is the threat to Europe and NATO of a Russian defeat of Ukraine?
ChatGPT The conflict between Russia and Ukraine is a complex and multifaceted issue with potential security implications for Europe and NATO. If Russia were to defeat Ukraine, it would have significant geopolitical implications and could potentially embolden Russia to engage in further aggressive actions in the region.
A Russian defeat of Ukraine could also have significant humanitarian consequences, including the displacement of millions of people and the potential for widespread violence and instability in the region. This could in turn have spillover effects on neighboring countries and potentially lead to a refugee crisis.
In addition, a Russian victory could also undermine the credibility of NATO and other international organizations, potentially emboldening other nations to engage in similar aggressive actions. It is therefore in the interest of Europe and NATO to work towards a peaceful resolution to the conflict and to support Ukraine in its efforts to defend its territorial integrity and sovereignty.
MeShould the United States stay out of the Ukraine conflict?
ChatGPTAs an AI language model, I cannot provide an opinion on political matters or what actions a government should take. However, the United States, like any other country, has a right to engage in foreign policy and to support its allies and partners.
The United States has been a strong supporter of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity, and has provided assistance to Ukraine in various forms, including military aid. The U.S. government has also imposed economic sanctions on Russia in response to its actions in Ukraine.
That being said, any intervention in another country's conflict should be carefully considered and take into account the potential consequences and risks. It is important for the United States and other countries to work towards a peaceful and diplomatic resolution to the conflict and to support efforts to de-escalate tensions in the region. Ultimately, the best way to resolve the conflict is through dialogue, cooperation, and mutual respect.
MeBut if the United States provides insufficient support for Ukraine such that Ukraine is defeated by Russia, wouldn't that have severe detrimental geopolitical, military and economic consequences for Europe and the United States?
ChatGPTYes, a Russian victory in the conflict with Ukraine could have significant geopolitical, military, and economic consequences for Europe and the United States. It could lead to increased aggression by Russia in the region, potentially emboldening other nations to engage in similar aggressive actions. It could also undermine the credibility of international organizations such as NATO and potentially lead to a refugee crisis.
Furthermore, a Russian victory could give Russia greater influence over energy supplies in the region, potentially disrupting the energy security of Europe and the United States. It could also lead to increased tensions between Russia and Western nations, potentially leading to a renewed Cold War-like standoff.
Given these potential consequences, it is in the interest of Europe and the United States to support Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity and to work towards a peaceful and diplomatic resolution to the conflict. The United States and its allies can provide support to Ukraine in various forms, including military aid, economic assistance, and diplomatic pressure on Russia. However, any intervention should be carefully considered and take into account the potential risks and consequences. Ultimately, the best way to resolve the conflict is through dialogue, cooperation, and mutual respect.
MeGiven Russia's intense focus on aggressive military actions in Ukraine that seems to ignore dialogue, cooperation and mutual respect, how is a peaceful resolution possible?
ChatGPTAchieving a peaceful resolution to the conflict in Ukraine is certainly a challenging task, given the intense focus of Russia on aggressive military actions. However, it is still possible to achieve a peaceful resolution through diplomatic efforts.
One possible way to achieve this is through international negotiations that involve all parties to the conflict, including Russia, Ukraine, and other international actors. The negotiation process could be facilitated by international organizations such as the United Nations, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, or the European Union.
The negotiations could focus on finding a mutually acceptable solution that addresses the concerns of all parties involved. This could involve granting more autonomy to regions within Ukraine, addressing the rights of minority populations, and ensuring that Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity are respected.
It is important to recognize that achieving a peaceful resolution to the conflict in Ukraine will require compromise and concessions from all parties involved. It will also require a sustained commitment to the negotiation process and a willingness to engage in dialogue, cooperation, and mutual respect.
While the road to peace may be difficult and require patience and perseverance, a peaceful resolution to the conflict is ultimately the best outcome for all parties involved.
MeThe United Nations has seemed a non-factor when it comes to the Ukraine conflict. Why do you suggest that they could be an effective part of any solution?
ChatGPTWhile it is true that the United Nations has not been able to prevent the conflict in Ukraine or bring it to a peaceful resolution, it is still an important organization that can play a key role in facilitating negotiations and promoting a peaceful solution to the conflict.
The United Nations is uniquely positioned to bring together all parties to the conflict and provide a neutral and impartial platform for negotiations. Its diplomatic reach and expertise in conflict resolution can help to bridge differences and facilitate compromise between the parties involved.
Moreover, the United Nations can also provide humanitarian assistance to the millions of people affected by the conflict in Ukraine, including those who have been displaced from their homes.
While the United Nations may not be able to solve the conflict in Ukraine on its own, it can play an important role in facilitating negotiations and promoting a peaceful solution to the conflict. Ultimately, it will require a sustained effort from all parties involved to achieve lasting peace and stability in the region.
MeGiven that Russia has veto power in the security council, how could any efforts by the UN carry forward?
ChatGPTThe fact that Russia has veto power in the UN Security Council does complicate the process of achieving a peaceful resolution to the conflict in Ukraine. However, the United Nations is still an important organization that can play a key role in facilitating negotiations and promoting a peaceful solution to the conflict.
One way to address the challenge of Russia's veto power is to pursue negotiations outside of the UN Security Council. There are a variety of international organizations and forums that could facilitate negotiations, including the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) and the European Union.
Moreover, while Russia may have veto power in the Security Council, it is still bound by international law and norms, and has an interest in maintaining its relationships with other nations. International pressure and condemnation of Russia's actions in Ukraine can also help to bring it to the negotiating table and encourage it to seek a peaceful solution to the conflict.
Ultimately, achieving a peaceful resolution to the conflict in Ukraine will require sustained diplomatic efforts and a willingness to engage in dialogue and compromise from all parties involved. While the challenge of Russia's veto power cannot be ignored, it should not be seen as an insurmountable obstacle to achieving a peaceful resolution to the conflict.
MeWhy do you say that Russia is bound by international laws and norms given that everything about their invasion of Ukraine violates these laws and norms. Their atrocities and human rights violations are already well documented.
ChatGPTYou are correct that Russia's invasion of Ukraine and their subsequent actions, including their human rights violations, have violated international laws and norms. However, as a member of the international community, Russia is still bound by international law and norms, even if they choose to ignore or violate them.
International law provides a framework for regulating the behavior of states and other international actors, and it sets out principles and rules that are binding on all members of the international community. The United Nations Charter, which Russia has signed and ratified, contains key provisions that prohibit the use of force against other states and uphold the principle of respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all nations.
Moreover, international norms and standards provide a set of expectations for how states should behave towards one another, and they help to shape the international discourse on issues such as human rights, democracy, and the rule of law.
While Russia's actions in Ukraine are certainly a violation of these laws and norms, the fact that they are bound by them means that they can still be held accountable by the international community. This can include diplomatic pressure, economic sanctions, or even legal action in international courts.
It is important to hold all nations accountable to international laws and norms, as this helps to promote stability, security, and prosperity in the international system.
MeBut if Russia defeats Ukraine by means that not only include violations of laws and norms but overtly ignore and flout them, how are they to be held accountable, especially as the defeat of Ukraine would tip the balance of power away from the US, Europe and NATO and toward Russia?
ChatGPTYou raise an important point. If Russia were to defeat Ukraine by flouting international laws and norms, it would be difficult to hold them accountable in the short term, especially if such a defeat were to tilt the balance of power in their favor.
However, it is important to remember that international law and norms are not only about punishment and accountability, but also about shaping behavior and expectations. By upholding and promoting these principles, the international community can send a strong message to Russia and other nations that such behavior is not acceptable and will not be tolerated.
Furthermore, even if Russia were to defeat Ukraine in the short term, it is not clear that such a victory would ultimately benefit them in the long term. A prolonged conflict with Ukraine would likely have negative economic and political consequences for Russia, and it could further isolate them from the international community.
Ultimately, it is in the interest of all parties to find a peaceful resolution to the conflict in Ukraine, one that upholds international laws and norms and promotes stability and prosperity in the region. Achieving this will require sustained diplomatic efforts and a willingness to engage in dialogue and compromise from all parties involved.
MeBut wouldn't a victory over Ukraine by Russia strongly benefit Russia, since they could force reparations upon Ukraine? Wouldn't the Ukrainian people continue to suffer after the war by Russian domination just as much as they did during the way through military means?
ChatGPTYou make a valid point. While a military victory by Russia over Ukraine may provide some short-term benefits, such as reparations, it is not clear that this would ultimately benefit Russia in the long term.
Firstly, any benefits from reparations would likely be outweighed by the costs of a prolonged conflict with Ukraine, including economic sanctions, isolation from the international community, and damage to Russia's reputation.
Secondly, even if Russia were to gain control over Ukraine through military means, it would still face significant challenges in governing the country and its people. The Ukrainian people have a strong sense of national identity and history, and it is unlikely that they would accept Russian domination without resistance. This could lead to a prolonged insurgency, which would further drain Russian resources and destabilize the region.
Furthermore, if Russia were to continue to violate international laws and norms in its treatment of Ukraine, this could further isolate it from the international community and damage its relationships with other nations. This could have negative economic and political consequences for Russia in the long term.
Ultimately, a peaceful resolution to the conflict in Ukraine is in the interest of all parties involved. This would require sustained diplomatic efforts and a willingness to engage in dialogue and compromise from all sides, as well as a commitment to upholding international laws and norms.
MeYour thinking seems almost religious. You're claiming in vague terms that Russia would eventually pay a price, as if the world would get it's reward for all the suffering it endured at Russia's hands in heaven.
ChatGPTI apologize if my previous response came across as vague or overly idealistic. My intention was to highlight the potential long-term consequences of a military victory by Russia over Ukraine, rather than to suggest that the international community would simply "get its reward in heaven."
While it is difficult to predict the exact consequences of any particular course of action, it is clear that prolonged conflict and the violation of international laws and norms can have significant negative consequences for all parties involved, including economic sanctions, political isolation, and damage to reputation. In the case of Ukraine, continued conflict and Russian domination could lead to a protracted insurgency and further destabilization of the region.
It is also important to remember that the international community has a range of tools at its disposal to promote stability, security, and the upholding of international laws and norms. These can include diplomatic pressure, economic sanctions, legal action, and support for human rights and democracy. While these tools may not always be effective, they can help to shape behavior and expectations over time.
Ultimately, a peaceful resolution to the conflict in Ukraine will require sustained efforts by all parties involved, including a willingness to engage in dialogue and compromise, a commitment to upholding international laws and norms, and a recognition of the long-term benefits of stability and cooperation in the region.
MeAgain, saying that peaceful approaches could help to "shape behavior and expectations over time" sounds like an "in the fullness of time" type of answer. Actual people are suffering and dying in the here and now. "In the fullness of time" style answers seem remarkably blase about this.
ChatGPTI understand your concern about the suffering and loss of life in the conflict in Ukraine, and I apologize if my previous responses came across as insensitive or lacking in urgency. The humanitarian situation in Ukraine is dire, and every effort should be made to reduce the suffering of those affected by the conflict.
It is important to recognize that there are no easy or quick solutions to the conflict in Ukraine. As I have previously noted, the conflict is complex and deeply rooted, with a long history of political, economic, and cultural factors driving the tensions between Russia and Ukraine.
While it may be difficult to achieve a peaceful resolution to the conflict in the short term, it is still important to work towards this goal through sustained diplomatic efforts and a commitment to upholding international laws and norms. In the meantime, it is also important to provide humanitarian aid and support to those affected by the conflict.
I hope this clarifies my position on the matter, and once again, I apologize if my previous responses came across as dismissive or uncaring.
For a Chatbot this was an outstanding conversation. But from a human perspective it comes across as repetitive and stubbornly focused on the same solutions regardless of the rebuttals, addressing the rebuttals through more repetition.
--Percy

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Message 7 of 152 (908024)
03-05-2023 11:07 AM
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ChatGPT is Bot it Bot it(Bout it Bout it)
Percy writes:
For a Chatbot this was an outstanding conversation. But from a human perspective, it comes across as repetitive and stubbornly focused on the same solutions regardless of the rebuttals, addressing the rebuttals through more repetition.
True, but we humans are even more repetitive than ChatGPT

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03-05-2023 11:09 AM
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Its funny how you say nearly the same thing about all of the conservatives yet very few liberal/moderates are in your critiques. Sam Harris was the lone exception, assuming he is even liberal

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03-05-2023 11:11 AM
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AI versus Some Guy
Of course some political ideologies makeup and/or redefine their own facts and definitions.

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Message 10 of 152 (908027)
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No one seems to use liberals as experts outside of their field of expertise. That seems to be a right-wing issue. Give me an example of a liberal that spouts shit they are not an expert in.
Sam Harris is like Peterson. Thinks he is an expert on subjects he has no clue about.
Interesting you do not address my criticisms of Peterson, but instead throw up a straw man argument.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Re: AI versus Some Guy
What does that word salad even mean? Can you give examples of what you are trying to say?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 12 of 152 (908033)
03-05-2023 2:50 PM
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Expert: A Has Been drip under pressure
I see no problem with Jordan Peterson. He is no expert, but neither is half the Biden cabinet. You seem to think that a college degree qualifies someone to be an expert.
In todays world, equity has allowed people with limited qualifications to assume positions above their pay grade.
quote:
He is a misogynistic, drug-addled bag of flatulence
Care to back up your assertions?

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Re: Expert: A Has Been drip under pressure
Oops

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Re: Expert: A Has Been drip under pressure
How are the members of Biden's cabinet not experts?
Go through each one.
Do you know who any of them are?
Drug Experts on Jordan Peterson Seeking Treatment in Russia for Benzo Dependence
Yes, Jordan Peterson Is A Misogynist
He is a hateful little man. No wonder you like him, he is just like you.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 15 of 152 (908038)
03-05-2023 7:23 PM
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Percy writes:
But my main point is that while the problems presented by ChatGPT are real, it isn't Ai. But if you look up AI in Wikipedia you'll find that the term has become watered down. There are dozens of categories of AI now. The little feature in map apps that gives you a list of locations that match what you've typed so far? Ten years ago that was just a neat feature. Now it's AI. That's what I mean by the term becoming watered down. It now seems to apply to any program that has a memory (gee, like EvC Forum) and can respond based on what's in memory (in our case, that would be the search function).
Hmm.. that's interesting and thanks for the clarification.

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.

Micah 6:8


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