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xongsmith Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: |
i need some help fixing this up:
Yo ho ho in a Florida dumpHoist your golf club, here is Trump Making room at Mar-a-lago for Vladimir You're his witness Trump's your Putineer Mein Kampf stands on his own night tableHe's commending Hitler when he's able Says he always admires Vladimir You're his witness Trump's your Putineer Long ago we laughed at his eyesBut voters voted and he began the Lies Who'd have thought we'd ever wind up here You're his witness Trump's your Putineer So now he's running to rock the boatSome may sink but we still can vote Grab your coat, let's mark our ballot here You're his witness Trump's your Putineer You're his witness Trump's your Putineer Trump's your Putineer "I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined:
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ok, some adjustments:
Yo ho ho! from a Florida dumpHoist your golf club, here is Trump Reserving Mar-a-lago for Vladimir While we all witness Trump's our Putineer Mein Kampf stands on his own night tableHe's praising Hitler when he's able Says he always admires Vladimir And we all witness Trump's our Putineer Long ago we laughed up in his eyesBut voters voted and he began the Lies Who'd have thought we'd ever wind up here As we all witness Trump's our Putineer So now he's running to rock the boatSome may sink but we still can vote Grab your coat, let's mark our ballot here As we all witness Trump's our Putineer As we all witness Trump's our Putineer Trump's our Putineer "I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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Phat Member Posts: 18651 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
Putin it in, I see! So what song accompanies the lyrics?
Edited by Phat, : No reason given."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Stile Member (Idle past 300 days) Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: |
I'm not sure what tune it's supposed to go with, so it's difficult for me to judge it's "flow" (not that I'm any sort of expert at that anyway...)
But I suggest keeping an eye on your syllable-count.When certain lines should be "about the same" in whatever-tune-you're-carrying... if the syllable-count is too far off, then it's just not going to "flow." I'm trying to say something like this: My letters "A," "B," and "C" represent the same lines in your verses.Each A should have a similar syllable count, as well with each B and each C - otherwise using the same tune (whatever it is) for each verse isn't going to "flow." A - Yo ho ho! from a Florida dumpB - Hoist your golf club, here is Trump C - Reserving Mar-a-lago for Vladimir A - Mein Kampf stands on his own night tableB - He's praising Hitler when he's able C - Says he always admires Vladimir A - Long ago we laughed up in his eyesB - But voters voted and he began the Lies C - Who'd have thought we'd ever wind up here A - So now he's running to rock the boatB - Some may sink but we still can vote C - Grab your coat, let's mark our ballot here And here are your syllable counts: A: 9; 9; 9; 9B: 7; 9; 11; 8 C: 11; 10; 9; 9 So, from this I'm guessing: The first line of each verse always seems to flow well.The second line seems really varied in each verse - flow is difficult here. The third line is strange in the first verse, but fairly smooth for the next 3 verses. A "perfect poem" would have all the same syllables (kind of like a limerick's restrictions...) A: 9; 9; 9; 9B: 9; 9; 9; 9 C: 9; 9; 9; 9 But it also has to fit your tune.It's much more important for "All A's" and "All B's" and "All C's" to have the same number of syllables than it is for A to match B and/or C. In fact, there are many who would say your song/poem is "boring" if A matches B and C. So, there's nothing wrong with something like: A: 9; 9; 9; 9B: 10; 10; 10; 10 C: 9; 9; 9; 9 Or even if one line in one verse doesn't "fit in" perfectly - it likely won't matter.But if all verses have a different number of syllables for the same line - it's very difficult for the flow to come off smooth. Don't take this advice too much to heart - I'm certainly no song or poem writer. It's just what sticks out to me, is all.Good luck and have fun!
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
And since this has the advantages of being a visual medium the poet can use
spacing and
indent to make a point. Well, if there was,
if there was a point to be made. I wouldn't advise doing this without a reason; without some point to be communicated in doing so. Without a good reason to do so spacing can get
disjointed
unorganized
even sinister! Boo, sinister! Ok. I'll let you get back to your adult discussion now. Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: |
i cant believe EvC doesnt know of Warren Zevon's great song!
he played it on Dave Letterman's show right before he died: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqWqyjUsCAw Enjoy every sandwich!"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: |
even Bob Dylan covered it after Warren died:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euRU4VQGYsY many have."I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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ringo Member (Idle past 668 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
xongsmith writes:
As soon as you said "Warren", I was thinking of Warren Zevon. I was a big fan but back in the "Werewolves of London" and "Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner" days. i cant believe EvC doesnt know of Warren Zevon's great song! I never heard of "Mutineer". I may be missing some good stuff since I ignore almost all of the crap that poses as "music" these days. (I may be getting old.)"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7
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I guess you're not a fan of Justin ?, there are two of them aren't there? Timberlake and Baib, Beirbe, Beeper, what'is name.
Is there a difference? No. No. I've heard biever beeper before and I don't really want to know. All I know is the "Dead" their not. And the other one doesn't sound very pink to me either. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1
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His last album, recorded while he was dying, is fantastic.
The Wind - Wikipedia(Warren_Zevon_album) What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Percy Member Posts: 22953 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Never heard of Warren Zevon. That's really him singing in the YouTube video? Sounds like Bob Dylan to me, so I would have assumed anything I heard on the radio by him was Dylan.
Looking him up on Wikipedia I must have heard a lot of stuff he either did or was directly involved with or wrote, I just never heard his name. --Percy
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
He is very well known, but still obscure to some people. Linda Ronstadt recorded a number of his songs. Hasten Down the Wind is probably the most notable.
A good album to get a good taste of his earlier stuff is Bad Luck Streak in Dancing School.Stand in the Fire is a great live album. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9581 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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I am the very model of a Russian Major General
My standing in the battlefield is growing quite untenable My forces, though equipped and given orders unequivocal Did not expect the fight to be remotely this reciprocal I used to have a tank brigade but now I have lost severalMy fresh assaults are faltering with battleplans extemporal I can't recover vehicles but farmers in a tractor can It's all becoming rather reminiscent of Afghanistan My ordnance is the best but only half my missiles make it thereI would have thought by now that we would be controllers of the air But at the rate the snipers work my time here is ephemeral I am the very model of a Russian Major General Courtesy, Gilbert and Sullivan adapted by some Twitter guyJe suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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vimesey Member (Idle past 329 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined: |
Genius ! :-)
Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.2 |
He is very well known, but still obscure to some people. I had never heard of Warren Zevon, but I never knew the names of the members of most of the classic rock bands I still listen to, either.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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