NosyNed suggested that RickB make a new thread of this topic, so, knowing how much you all love to laugh at me, I thought I'd do it as a contribution to the general entertainment.
I'll just start by answering
RickB's post from the old thread:
faith writes:
And obeying the law is not Christianity. Christianity is knowing you are in trouble because you haven't obeyed the law and need a savior.
RickB, calling me a liar, writes:
Sorry, but this statement is dripping with mendacity. Your attempt to paint Christianity as a (rather covenient) umbrella for all the world's faiths certainly doesn't square with your stated views on Islam. Nor does it provide for polytheistic, dharmic or Mesoamerican belief systems to name but a few.
My point was that recognition of the universal moral law is universal. It's in the Hindu idea of karma. It's in the Tao. It's the most rudimentary universal religious idea to recognize that it's better to be in line with the moral law than against it, since "what goes around comes around" at a bare minimum. The Book of Proverbs, which is a compendium of proverbs from many cultures, and the Tao (as I recall, it's been a long time since I read it) both teach the way to live that is in harmony with the universe, as it were, and that health and longevity follow. Again, this is rudimentary. Religions incorporate it but it is not definitive of them. Christianity is not about obeying the law, it's about needing a savior from it. As I go on to say as a matter of fact:
faith interpreted by Rick B writes:
Christianity is knowing you are in trouble because you haven't obeyed [biblical] law and need [to be saved by Jesus Christ].
Using general terms doesn't dodge this bullet, Faith.
Can't remember the last time I dodged any bullets around here. As usual I have no idea what the furor is about. Seems people are always getting offended no matter what a Christian says.
I've been clear that I'm not talking about Biblical law alone. Biblical law is simply the codification of the universal moral law. All cultures have had their own recognition of this law.
As for the Savior, yes, there is only one, and he's what Christianity is about, it's not about living according to the moral law for salvation.
RickB writes:
Anyway...
faith writes:
More like the inevitable degenerative trend can be put off longer by obedience by individuals.
Do you have any evidence that demonstrates the manner in which spiritual obediance is able to repress gene mutation? Do you have a hypothetical chemical process of some kind?
Nope. Love to think about it though. It's more the other way around though, thinking about how degenerative processes are brought about by the Fall and sin.
Is a given individual more likely to pass on a degenerative "fall-mutation" to a child she conceives prior to learning "obediance"?
Have no idea how it works.
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