Firefox folding?

Microsoft should rejoice --- Firefox throws in the towel on the enterpriseThe first 2 paragraphs from the above link (much more there):

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Microsoft's battle against Firefox for the enterprise appears to be over --- as made clear by a series of boneheaded decisions and statements, Firefox appears to have abandoned the enterprise.

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The first bad decision was Firefox's rapid-release program, in which a new version of Firefox is released about every six weeks. Consumers may be happy with such quick revisions, but they're anathema to enterprises. Above all, enterprises crave stability over new features --- ensuring that enterprise apps work is a lot more important than getting the latest new widget.

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I'm personally mystified about what this "enterprise" they keep talking about.Moose

Firefox Is For "Regular" Users, Not Businesses - SlashdotThe comments, not the article. Asa himself joints in the conversation, telling one guy to move back to IE, and calling him a tool.Though all this is just some kind of FUD, large corporations cling to browsers like IE6, just because they have a lot of web applications which break in newer browsers. A lot of these applications are old apps written inhouse by employees who no longer work there and havent documented their software(I once overtook responsibility for an Intranet system written by former workers in the department, no documentation, no comments in the code. It was a freaking' nightmare), or by third party companies who went out of business ages ago.A company i worked with a few years ago, who (amongst ALOT of other things) delivered meals to kindergartens and schools and other suchs things, in a huge part of Copgenhagen, relied on an webapplication for ordering management which would only run in IE6. The company who had made this software had closed doors years before. Cost me a lot of pain, seeing as i worked in the IT department.We had a bunch of other web applications like this.

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Mozilla today did its best impression of a mea culpa in response to the corporate backlash following recent comments that the company doesn’t care about its enterprise customers.

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In a blog posted today, Mozilla tried to justify its recent fast-paced upgrade cycle by saying that such updates help secure users and provide a richer Web experience. The company once again explained that its focus has been on the individual user but admitted that Firefox has carved out a niche in the corporate world.

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Mozilla also acknowledged the challenge for corporate IT, which has to test and certify their Web sites and Web-based apps whenever a new version of Firefox is released, a process that can take weeks or months.

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While not yet totally embracing the enterprise, the company made it clear that it’s now looking at ways to better help IT staffers who have faithfully adopted Firefox but have been thrown by the constant upgrades.

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We are exploring solutions that balance these needs, with active discussion in our community, including valuable input from IBM, Mozilla said in its blog. Open Source software is well-suited to these challenges, as interested parties can come together to build what is needed.

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Mozilla recently got itself into corporate hot water after it released Firefox 5 only three months after Firefox 4 made its debut and announced that it would be cutting off support for version 4. That move threw IT departments and companies for a loop, who were unprepared for such a quick change act.

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Following complaints and criticism from the business world, Mozilla’s Asa Dotzler fired back that enterprise has never been and shouldn’t be a focus of the company. Mozilla has argued that it can’t gear and support Firefox for both individuals and business customers. Of course, that and other comments combined with the quick upgrade cycle fueled the flames even further.

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The backlash gave Microsoft an opportunity to swoop in and declare Internet Explorer as the browser for all customers, including those in the enterprise arena. In a blog posted yesterday, Dean Hachamovitch, Corporate VP for IE, explained the upgrade process and tools that Microsoft makes available for its browser. He also touted the notion that unlike Mozilla, Microsoft can support both individuals and businesses that use IE.

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Making the Web better for large organizations (with managed IT) is just as important as making the Web better for consumers and developers, wrote Hachamovitch.

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Mozilla’s pledge that it will try to better help the corporate world seems to have come about through a nudge from a major corporate customer—IBM. Big Blue last year chose Firefox as its default browser. Though Mozilla didn’t explain what valuable input it received from IBM, Big Blue clearly has a vested interest in making sure its more than 400,000 employees who rely on Firefox continue to be supported.

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http://kmaxim.com/...s-olive-branch-to-enterprise-users.htmlThis should explain it

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Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

Moose tells us: business idiocyespecially stupifyin' Big Business. while i would agree with those in the Mozilla group that think Firefox should cater to the individual over catering to these business idiocities, i can see where Microshit would gloat over such things. IE is probably the worst browser you can use, despite how well it works - simply because it is Microsoft shit. the Electronic Freedom Fighters on the Frontiers of this War have to keep up their Heroic Fight. Send them Guns & Drugs & Money & Lawyers by whatever means you can. Microsoft: orders of magnitude by far, the worst computer virus ever unleashed upon the digital internets and still, even to this very second, continuing to wreak devastating, unchained havoc everywhere it can breath over a circuit board throughout the globe and beyond. There is no virus protection against it. You have to construct a quarantined room on your hardware to protect yourself from its clutches. Mac, linux, Sun, IBM360, DEC-10, whatever - a sealed off isolated environment from it. COBOL may indeed have been a 4-letter word for us old non-business oriented programmerz, but it's nothing compared to BillGatesWorld. Don't let yourself get pwned!But, yeah, on a more serious note, keeping up to date should be done at a more stately pace. Obsolescence has to be measured in decades, not weeks.

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- xongsmith, 5.7d

I have one in-house IT guy overseeing nearly 50 computers. Along with his other duties, he simply can't keep up with the absurd pace of new versions of Firefox.I hope the people behind Firefox can begin to understand this simple fact.And yes, I agree, there is no one I know of who has to deal with Microsoft on a daily basis that is a supporter instead of a detractor.Long live open source!

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