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Author Topic:   Testing The Christian Apologists
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10-19-2019 4:35 PM

I wanted to attempt and bring this specific topic here. ringo has challenged me to discuss the apologists whom I listen to and defend (or expose) them appropriately. I will say from the outset that the argument has already been done informally through us here on the forum. It boils down to faith vs evidence, which in my mind is inconclusive because I won't allow evidence to be the only default standard used when discussing concepts that have no way of being objectively proven initially to begin with.
The first Christian Apologist that I want to present is Frank Turek.
Turek was a Naval Flight Officer in the U.S. Navy, and has a master's degree in Public Administration from George Washington University and a Doctor of Ministry in Apologetics from Southern Evangelical Seminary. He has also taught classes in Leadership and Management at George Washington University.
I was listening to the following podcast this morning:
What Makes Something Right Or Wrong? In it, Dr.Turek brought up one of our old arguments which we have discussed to death here at EvC, namely that God can have foreknowledge without sacrificing human free will. It is at about the 25-30 minute mark. Dr.Turek has a passionate argument. Listen to the 5 minutes and see if anyone can spot dishonesty or logical errors...I am sure they are there. (I don't see him as dishonest, but my critics might)
I dont have time to write it all out at the moment, but it can be rediscussed here. We have done it before, and I feel that there was no conclusion. Free Will vs Ultimate Foreknowledge
I may find a transcript later.
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