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frako
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Message 1 of 11 (648032)
01-12-2012 6:05 PM


Thing is I want to believe this but i have huge doubts. 2 guys are going to make a documentary on this they have been over the news for a few days now. I was wondering any of you Americans have any connections at NASA to find out if this is possible. And what are your thoughts on this?

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Message 2 of 11 (648034)
01-12-2012 6:30 PM


looks cool. I'd watch it. looks possible. Asking for Americans with connections sounds dangerous though.

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frako
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Message 3 of 11 (648040)
01-12-2012 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Artemis Entreri
01-12-2012 6:30 PM


Asking for Americans with connections sounds dangerous though.
Lol will the CIA kidnap me in the middle of the night and take me to guantanamo?

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Message 4 of 11 (648044)
01-12-2012 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by frako
01-12-2012 6:05 PM


I was wondering any of you Americans have any connections at NASA to find out if this is possible.
My only "connection" to NASA is that I went to the National Air and Space Museum two weeks ago, but this looks like bullshit:
1) "Docu-drama" means "fake documentary."
2) All the footage is of Russian ICBM's and ICBM sites. The Russian and US space programs were overwhelmingly piggy-backed on ICBM development. I don't know if Yugoslavia was a nuclear player during the Cold War, you'd have to tell me, but if they weren't then they probably didn't have much of a manned space program either.
I don't doubt that President Tito was living pretty high on the hog but I don't think it was because he sold a secret space program to the US.

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frako
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Message 5 of 11 (648045)
01-12-2012 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by crashfrog
01-12-2012 7:17 PM


My only "connection" to NASA is that I went to the National Air and Space Museum two weeks ago, but this looks like bullshit:
1) "Docu-drama" means "fake documentary."
2) All the footage is of Russian ICBM's and ICBM sites. The Russian and US space programs were overwhelmingly piggy-backed on ICBM development. I don't know if Yugoslavia was a nuclear player during the Cold War, you'd have to tell me, but if they weren't then they probably didn't have much of a manned space program either.
I don't doubt that President Tito was living pretty high on the hog but I don't think it was because he sold a secret space program to the US.
Yea i have my doubts too but this would answer the question of why did the USA and Russia give Yugoslavia SHIT LOADS of money on a regular basis. And after the cold ware everything went to shit because we stopped getting funded by both sides. We went form the BEST country to live in the world to a country with a hyperinflation almost overnight. The fuck was just as things where getting fixed the country collapsed with Slovenia the first to want independence and getting independence.

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Message 6 of 11 (648047)
01-12-2012 7:58 PM
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01-12-2012 7:30 PM


Yea i have my doubts too but this would answer the question of why did the USA and Russia give Yugoslavia SHIT LOADS of money on a regular basis.
Well, if we were going to invade Russia, it'd be worth quite a bit of money to have them on our side. Similarly, I imagine it was worth quite a bit to Russia not to have them on our side. I don't think the space race had anything to do it with. I think it was just checkbook diplomacy.

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frako
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Message 7 of 11 (648048)
01-12-2012 8:26 PM
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01-12-2012 7:58 PM


Well, if we were going to invade Russia, it'd be worth quite a bit of money to have them on our side. Similarly, I imagine it was worth quite a bit to Russia not to have them on our side. I don't think the space race had anything to do it with. I think it was just checkbook diplomacy.
well if the USA and Russia went to ware you would need no invasion point both countries would be burning in nuclear fire. I did say i want to believe it but have doubts the guys making the documentary said 80% of the stuff in the trailer is confirmed but that their statement is still a hypothesis they and that they are going to do their best during the course of the year to prove it.

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Message 8 of 11 (648051)
01-12-2012 10:05 PM
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01-12-2012 8:26 PM


Poe was American
frako writes:
I did say i want to believe it but have doubts the guys making the documentary said 80% of the stuff in the trailer is confirmed but that their statement is still a hypothesis they and that they are going to do their best during the course of the year to prove it.
Good luck, you're gonna need it.
Sorry, I have relatives who worked for Boeing and Lockheed, along with what is now the Johnson Space Center. The Saturn V Rocket was not made in Yugoslavia.
Yugoslavia made the Yugo and as this "documentary" points out, Tito preferred Cadillacs.
Personally, I would have preferred a Rolls, but that is just my opinion.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon

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frako
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Message 9 of 11 (648090)
01-13-2012 6:44 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by anglagard
01-12-2012 10:05 PM


Re: Poe was American
Yugoslavia made the Yugo and as this "documentary" points out, Tito preferred Cadillacs.
do you know why Yugo has back wind shield heating?
So your hands dont get cold when you have to push it during the winter
The idea was to bring a very cheap and very affordable car to the market in that they succeed the car was crap though.
I remember an accident my grandparents and me had we slammed into a Yugo the damage on the Golf 2 a holder for the front left light broke giving the glass in front of the light a half of a centimetre of wiggle room, the damage on the Yugo well you could see the engine. Still you haveto give points to the yugo (the worst quality car ever made) for damaging a golf 2 the best quality car ever made.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 10 of 11 (648143)
01-13-2012 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by frako
01-12-2012 6:55 PM


no, not at all.
Anyone with clearance speaking to a foreign national about limited or confidential information would get into a lot of trouble. and a foreign national specifically fishing for information sends up red flags.

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frako
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Message 11 of 11 (648182)
01-13-2012 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Artemis Entreri
01-13-2012 12:01 PM


Yea but isnt this like 50year old information who still cares?

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