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Author Topic:   some questions about Lucy (Australopithicus afarensis}
Apollo
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05-21-2008 8:29 PM


there are some points that I'd like to discuss about Lucy that haven't been touched upon here from what I've read.
I Love Lucy? | The Institute for Creation Research claims that:
The creature would have stood 3.5 feet tall, about the height of a chimpanzee. Its skull was grossly ape-like, and also about the size of a chimp's, with very little in the way of human-like features. Lucy possessed very long fingers with a decided curve to them, like modern apes possess for tree-swinging activities. From other A. afarensis finds, it is believed Lucy possessed long toes with a curvature that also suggested prehensile and arboreal behavior. Lucy's upright-turned shoulder joint enabled suspensory behavior and her hands, wrists, and arms were powerfully prehensile. And so you ask, what makes Lucy such a great missing link? Angles of bones in the (reconstructed) hip joint and knee joint suggest that Lucy spent part of her time walking upright. That is as strong as the evidence gets that she was related to humans. Virtually no anatomists will support Johanson's claim that Lucy was a habitual upright walker, yet this is what most textbooks boast.
how can Lucy be a transitional form if everything of it is still like a chimpanzee except for maybe spending some time walking upright?
Furthermore it makes a good claim about the so-called footprints:
Remarkably, anatomists are unanimously agreed that the footprints are indistinguishable from those made by modern man on a beach. Rather than admit this as evidence that man and Lucy lived side-by-side in the past, it is claimed that an ape like Lucy must have made the footprints because "we all know" that man hadn't evolved yet. This, despite the fact that it is almost inconceivable that an austro-lopithocine foot could have done it! It is only by circular reasoning that this can be admitted as evidence for human evolution
This website http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/origin_of_man_02.html points out that the afarensis skull is no different from a modern chimpanzee, how can it then be a transitional form?
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Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Added the "(Australopithicus afarensis}" part to the topic title.

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05-21-2008 9:17 PM


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