Thank you for the reply jaywill.
I will try to behave ...
jaywill writes:
Bailey writes:
The God allowed His purpose to be written down by a man so that man's stupidity regarding Him could be more clearly evidenced.
Adam was not stupid.
This is certainly debatable.
Though he may have known how to operate a mexican backhoe, he was not quite Einstein.
As we've evidenced, ignorance of the Knowledge of Good and Evil did not choose the Tree of Life in the story.
Mankind's ignorance of the Knowledge of Good and Evil does not contain the Tree of Life's value within its reality.
The man is surely not yet wise jaywill.
Contrary, I would suggest uneducated.
You seriously disagree?
Adam gave names to all of the animals.
The child often names the pets.
This was a task which required great mental prowness.
lol - great mental prowness ... a stretch jaywill.
It likely required the ability to grunt a plethora of phonological syllables.
The names were meaningful.
A long time ago, our cat was named Midnight.
As a child, I was employed to name her ...
She was a black cat.
I did not know calculus at the time ...
Adam was created such a fine human specimen that when he did begin to die it took over nine hundred years for him to run down.
lol - I agree he was a fine human specimen ...
Nonetheless, his carbon based form succumbed to the effects of nature within the sphere.
Not only was he brilliant because he was the first specimen of a man.
I do not follow.
Let's veiw this causally ...
I suggest mankind's brilliance cannot be immediately evidenced, tho rudimentary concepts form as he becomes educated.
In your assertion, mankind's exclusivity caused him to be brilliant.
The exclusivity is the cause, and brilliance is somehow the effect.
His brilliance is certainly not evident within the Garden account ...
Please expound.
But also think of the knowledge and wisdom one can accumlate from life experience after 900 years.
Now we're cookin' with Mrs.Dash!
No amount of intelligence can substitute for obedience to God.
We concede ...
This can be clearly evidenced by our inability to circumvent the laws of physics, and the likes.
Though gravity's effects can be manipulated for a season, everything must rejoin the sphere or it will expire.
Seemingly, no amount of intelligence can successfully defy the governing Laws of the God's universe ...
Potentially, all things are accountable to Gravity and Love.
What goes up, must come down.
No amount of high IQ can make a human "graduate" from having to trust God.
Again we concede ...
Though I would say, a high or low IQ can cause a human to "graduate" to trusting the God.
Respectively, guilt and lies often make a human "graduate" from wanting to trust the God ...
The Son knew this, as evidenced by His interactions with the holy rollin' Pharisees.
jaywill writes:
Bailey writes:
However, the God did not allow His Words to written down to supply guilt jaywill.
Baily, the word of God has many functions.
Concede ...
... It also has the function to convict.
Concede ...
The God's Spirit and the God's Word alone maintain the duty to convict.
It is not the duty of His employees to attempt such feats.
Check with your manager if you don't believe ...
Also, in its root, convict equates to convince - not guilt.
Repeat, guilt is not synonymous with convince and convict.
The Good One employs Truth to convince.
A jerk employs guilt to the same end.
Any conviction from the word of God, any feeling of guilt from the word of God is constructive and not destructive.
I concede ...
Respectively, many feelings of guilt derived from defective interpretations of the God's Word are destructive, not constructive.
It is never convicting simply to make one depressed, saddened, or under it for its own sake.
I concede the God never convinces man of the Truth simply to make him depressed and saddened for His own sake.
However, religion often employs guilty convictions to make one depressed and saddened for its own ends.
I'm sure this will continue until the beginning ...
The conviction of the word of God is meant to lead us to repentence that we may be at perfect peace again having confessed our sins to God.
And yet, molestations of the God's Word's are wielded callously, in turn driving many away from spiritual and human evolution ...
While you complain that the word of God is to make us feel guilty ...
I do not stake that complaint jaywill.
Moreover, I suggest the opposite is true ...
In declaring the Truth, if I complain, it is the Word of the God that is not represented truthfully by religious zealots.
Pharisees employ guilt for convictions ...
The God employs Truth to convince ...
You disagree?
... ironically enough you continue to refer to the "stupidity" of man.
Are you sore at the God because you were born stupid - lol
This stupidity of man can be equated to the naivety of a newborn baby jaywill.
Babies don't know much ... yet.
The Truth does not need guilt to convince ...
Life can be very convincing when the facts are openly laid out.
You assert the man was brilliant and so, in his brilliance, he chose the Tree of Knowledge.
I agree it was the right choice, though I do not claim man's brilliance as the motivating factor.
Ironically enough, this unregretable choice was motivated by a lack of education.
You suggest it is a newborn baby's fault it does not know algebra ...
Then you assert the newborn baby knew algebra.
Which is it?
Isn't all this talk about man's stupidity exactly designed to make us feel guilty ?
On the contrary brother jaywill ...
Now, do you see how words play a bias concerning people's interpretations and emotions?
Is it a newborn babies fault it is not yet wise?
This is proposed as nothing more or less than a defence for the human species.
The species is not to blame, any more than you would blame a newborn baby jaywill.
If you don't believe me, check Romans 8:19-21.
This does not somehow alleviate individual accountability within the human species regarding the God's Law of Love.
It remains possible ...
The God allowed His purpose to be written down by men, so that people employing knowledge could more clearly evidence religious misconceptions regarding Him.
That's about where I'm at - lol
Thank you for your time & thought jaywill.
More appreciated than you know ...
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