Sex paradox

Guys, what do you think of lowering the sex age law.
Right now, we have 14 year olds having sex with 15, 16, 17 year olds, but as soon as a 15/16 year old has sex with 18 year old its illegal.It is legal to mary someone under 17 but not to have sex with them unless one is married ?This is utterly ridiculous.Furthermore, a friend of mine was arested for having sex with his girlfriend just days before her birth day where it would have been legal.Am I the only one who feels this way?
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Am I the only one who feels this way?

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[This message has been edited by TrueCreation, 01-27-2002]

What would you suggest?Mark------------------
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Not only is it disgusting its a sin, SAVE SEX FOR MARRIAGE!! THen you don't have to worry about STDs or being pregnant. There is no such thing as safe sex!

Ah, but what if the person you married had an STD? Would it go away with the wedding ceremony? What if you were married but did not want to become pregnant? Yeah there are plenty of good arguments for saving it for marriage, but yours don't make any sense.This thread was off-topic from the beginning, but now it's completely illogical as well.

The concept of an "age limit" for sex is kinda whacky, if taken from a historical perspective. In the good ol days you were married not long after puberty, and had kids usually before you were 18! However, social norms, being what they are, have changed our perspective on this. People live longer, and often delay marraige and childbirth till later in life. However, the sex drive is still there. If you were 15 and married, it sorta resolved the whole issue of premarital sex. However, if you don't get married till you late twenties, that is quite along time to go without. Sexual desire is one of the strongest natural drives we have.
However, I also think such laws (within reason) are neccesary to protect youth from older sexual predators. Now, if you 18 and your partner is 16 or 17, that isn't a big deal ( and I think the law should reflect this) , but I absolutely believe it should be criminal for a 55 year old man to go trolling for teens!
As for premarital sex, I don't remember that as one of the ten commandments. I remember "thou shalt not covet that neibhor's wife", but it says nothing about his daughter! (sorry, couldn't help myself : ) I think abstinance only sex-ed is worthless. I think abstinence should be discussed as a viable choice and encourage, especially of young teens, but you need to discuss safe (ok, safer) sex practices. Alot of kids choose not abstain from sex, but without other options, they engage in sexual practices that have much higher risks for STD's and pregnancy than if they had been educated about safer practices (birth control, condoms, ect.) .
Also, think of this, a teen who has "safer" sex is alot less likely to get pregnant, and less likely to have to consider an abortion. Personally, I would perfer people be responsible and take the preventive measures. I don't understand why christians don't support contraceptive education, if for no other reason than to decrease unwanted pregnancies, and thus reduce the number of abortions.

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Originally posted by OneWorldOrder.Org:
This is utterly ridiculous.

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Furthermore, a friend of mine was arested for having sex with his girlfriend just days before her birth day where it would have been legal.

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Am I the only one who feels this way?
www.OneWorldOrder.Org

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Probably not - I reckon your friend probably feels much the same. (then again, you would think he could have waited a few days! perhaps he was not "master of his domain" as Seinfeld once put it.)

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I don't understand why christians don't support contraceptive education, if for no other reason than to decrease unwanted pregnancies, and thus reduce the number of abortions.

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It's because they really seem to think that sex is dirty and bad. They also have a lot of fun demonizing women whom they can't control.It's seems that their goal is for everyone to hold the same Puritanical, "physical pleasure is wrong except in the missionary position while married" attitude. Remember, the Catholic Church teaches that any sexual activity that wasn't within marriage and isn't specifically for procreation is wrong. They have softened their stance a bit as of late, but it's basically the same.

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Originally posted by schrafinator:
It's seems that their goal is for everyone to hold the same Puritanical, "physical pleasure is wrong except in the missionary position while married" attitude. Remember, the Catholic Church teaches that any sexual activity that wasn't within marriage and isn't specifically for procreation is wrong. They have softened their stance a bit as of late, but it's basically the same.

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Ah - but the pleasure bit is still wrong! The motto is "Do it - but don't enjoy it."

(1) It's because they really seem to think that sex is dirty and bad. They also have a lot of fun demonizing women whom they can't control.
It's seems that their goal is for everyone to hold the same Puritanical, "physical pleasure is wrong except in the missionary position while married" attitude. Remember, the Catholic Church teaches that any sexual activity that wasn't within marriage and isn't specifically for procreation is wrong. They have softened their stance a bit as of late, but it's basically the same. SHRAFINATOR
(2) Ah - but the pleasure bit is still wrong! The motto is "Do it - but don't enjoy it." MISTER P
---Sounds like the rantings of two sexually frustrated evolutionists to me. . Both of your observations are quite asinine (for lack of a better word). As a married Catholic man, I certainly do not see sex as "dirty or bad", nor does the Catholic Church espouse this view. "Demonizing woman"? Speaking from experience, the missionary position isn't bad but my wife and I have mounted each other in just about every way imaginable so I fail to see your point? Your correct in your assertion that sex outside the bonds of marriage is seen as a sin, or "wrong" as you put it, but the Church does not hold the view that "sexual activity which isn't specifically for procreation is wrong." MISTER P "Do it but don't enjoy it", I've never seen that one in scripture or heard it during a sermon, care to cite your sources? The ejaculation of sperm and the excitement of the clitoris result in absolute enjoyment (if your doing it right Mr P / Schraf) so if the man and/or woman are "successful" in their orgasm it's pretty tough to not enjoy it (as long as its consenual ie not rape)). So keep plugging away guys (no pun intended) and you'll get there.

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Originally posted by leekim:
"Do it but don't enjoy it", I've never seen that one in scripture or heard it during a sermon, care to cite your sources?

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My source is impeccable - the Irish comedian Dave Allen. 'Twas a joke - and quite a funny one, remembering the days when the Irish clergy insisted that it was the duty of a married couple to have as many children as possible to keep the faith healthy!

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Originally posted by leekim:
"Do it but don't enjoy it", I've never seen that one in scripture or heard it during a sermon, care to cite your sources?

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My source is impeccable - the Irish comedian Dave Allen. 'Twas a joke - and quite a funny one, remembering the days when the Irish clergy insisted that it was the duty of a married couple to have as many children as possible to keep the faith healthy!
---Your humor is fine MP, it's just that Schraf has some definite "issues" she needs to resolve...she seemingly can never spit enough venom at the Church and/or Creationists. I can laugh with the best of them but her posts were not done in jest. Seinfeld is an excellent show, funny, well written, great acting, unfortunately it's gone...last night was a classic, the "deaf line judge episode"

The church really doens't care how you do it, just don't use birth control. More babies means more believers! : )

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It's because they really seem to think that sex is dirty and bad. They also have a lot of fun demonizing women whom they can't control.

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It's a common misconception to think that opposition to the perversion of a thing is the same thing as opposition to the thing itself. Of course that idea is absurb. Sex within the confines of marriage is a beautiful relationship. Some people like to draw the analogy of a sole marriage/sex partner being like listening to the same record over and over again. I like to consider it like buying an instrument and learning how to play it. If you are committed, boredom is not a problem.