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Author Topic:   The Unacknowledged Accuracy of Gensis1
danny
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Message 1 of 6 (348033)
09-11-2006 3:15 AM


Mainstream science has given us a pretty comprehensive theory of universal evolution from the Big Bang to the appearence of modern man. The biblical equivalent of this theory appears in the first chapter of the Book of Genesis. This biblical theory is presented in large brushstrokes but the similarities between itself and scientific theory are quite uncanny. As it stands, the chronology of universal presented in Genesis is as follows:
Light - the Big Bang
Firmament - the expanse/expansion of the Universe
Earth
Seas
Vegetation
Sun, Moon and stars
Oceanic Life
Land based Animals
Mankind
There are obvious and striking parallels between the scientific and biblical theories with one exception - the creation of the sun, moon and stars AFTER the creation of earth. I would like to demonstrate that this difference can be rectified and that it has occurred through not taking the text of Genesis literally enough!
The biblical passage in question is verses 14 - 16 of Genesis 1:
"God said, Let there be lights in the vault of the heavens to separate day from night, and let them serve as signs for both festivals and for seasons and years ... God made two great lights, the greater to govern the day and the lesser to govern the night; he also made the stars."
It is easy to see why this chapter has been interpreted as the creation of the sun (the greater light), the moon (the lesser light) and the stars. However, on closer reading it is clear that this passage refers to the creation of various 'lights'. These 'lights' have specific functions:- "to separate day from night" and to "serve as signs for both festivals and for seasons and years".
To my point - the light that governs the day is not the sun, it is Daylight and the light that governs the night is Moonlight, these are the lights that "separate day from night". The lights that "serve as signs" are, not just any old stars, but the stars we know as the Zodiac. Here it is - the phenomena of Daylight, Moonlight and the Zodiac are not, as one might think, created by the sun, moon and stars. They are created by Atmosphere.
Although the sun shines on the moon there is no daylight because there is no atmosphere. Similarly, if you stand on the moon and gaze at the stars you will not be able to discern the stars of the Zodiac because the moon does not have the atmosphere to filter out the weaker starlight leaving us with the familiar patterns of the Zodiac.
In short - the passage above is not about the creation of sun, moon and stars but of atmosphere. The creation of atmosphere is an absolutely fundamental aspect of our being here.
Now the chronology in Genesis is as follows:
Let there be light - the Big Bang
firmament - the expanse/expansion of the universe
firmament - all celestaial bodies (galaxies, stars etc.)
earth
seas
vegetation
atmosphere
oceanic life
land based life
mankind
In general, the similarities between the biblical and scientific theories of universal evolution are uncanny. Are these similarities a product of my deranged imaginings and, if not, how did they come about.
Edited by danny, : original was too vague
Edited by AdminPD, : Formatting
Edited by danny, : tidying up
Edited by AdminPhat, : No reason given.

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AdminPD
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Message 2 of 6 (348036)
09-11-2006 4:25 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by danny
09-11-2006 3:15 AM


Welcome to EvC
Welcome to EvC danny,
Thank you for proposing a new topic and adding to our diversity. Since you are new to EvC, I suggest that you carefully read the Forum Guidelines and familiarize yourself with the functions of EvC by using the Practice Makes Perfect Forum or posting in existing threads.
I'm not inclined to promote your topic as written, because it is rather vague.
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    danny
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    Message 3 of 6 (349902)
    09-18-2006 2:45 AM
    Reply to: Message 2 by AdminPD
    09-11-2006 4:25 AM


    Re: Welcome to EvC
    Just to inform you that I've clarified my proposed topic concerning the comparison between the biblical and mainstream scientific theories of universal evolution. My post was indeed vague but I'm a new head to this so thanks for the help. The main thread of the post is to demonstrate the uncanny correllation between mainstream science and genesis1 regarding the chronology of evolutionary events from the Big Bang to the emergence of mankind. If I can get a debate going I would like to debate this correllation and any, if any, implications it may have.

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    AdminPD
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    Message 4 of 6 (349911)
    09-18-2006 4:43 AM
    Reply to: Message 3 by danny
    09-18-2006 2:45 AM


    Better
    Much better.
    I cleaned up your formatting to make it easier to read, please make sure it meets with your approval. In your last list you mentioned galaxies and s... Was the "s" to start another word or a typo? You need to fix that.
    The Preview button next to the Submit button allows you to see what your post will look like once submitted. This helps you with getting the formatting correct.
    Once you have made the correction and approved the formatting, let me know and I will promote this topic to the Bible Accurracy and Inerrancy forum unless you had another forum in mind.

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    danny
    Inactive Junior Member


    Message 5 of 6 (350129)
    09-18-2006 10:12 PM
    Reply to: Message 4 by AdminPD
    09-18-2006 4:43 AM


    Re: complete
    Thanks for your help AdminPD. I've tidied up that last typo and am ready to go. The Bible accuracy and inerrancy forum sounds ideal. I hope this can get a good debate going. One last thing - is it possible to also have a one-on-one debate with someone about it because I know that in the general forums we can get pretty quickly off the topic? Just wondering and thanks again.

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    AdminPD
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    Message 6 of 6 (350179)
    09-19-2006 4:31 AM
    Reply to: Message 5 by danny
    09-18-2006 10:12 PM


    Re: complete
    There is the Great Debate Forum for one on one debates. Since you're new it may be difficult to find someone to debate with.
    I will promote this to the Accuracy and Inerrancy thread and I'll try to keep a close watch so maybe we can keep the thread from getting blown off course.
    The best way is not to address comments that aren't on topic.
    Good Luck

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