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dreamsscareme5
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Message 1 of 13 (355572)
10-10-2006 10:21 AM


uuummmmm im only 14 yrs old and im wil admit that im the typical teen who really doesn't go to church but i do belive in god.....well i had this dream and god(i guess) was there and he was talkin to me only it wasn't me and he said "what is thy name" and i told him only it wasn't me in a wierd voice said"my name is legion for i am many" and well it creeped me out so i looked it up and well I HAVE NEVER READ THE BIBLE AND MY LIFE so why am I having theses dreams that i have no clue about---
uummm..i have a question though--why did the pigs drown?

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Message 2 of 13 (355581)
10-10-2006 10:25 AM
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10-10-2006 10:21 AM


wrong forum.
The suggestions and questions forum is for questions about the operation of the board, not for discussions.
moving this to Faith & Belief.

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    AdminJar
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    Message 3 of 13 (355583)
    10-10-2006 10:25 AM


    Thread moved here from the Suggestions and Questions forum.

      
    crashfrog
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    Message 4 of 13 (355700)
    10-10-2006 5:18 PM
    Reply to: Message 1 by dreamsscareme5
    10-10-2006 10:21 AM


    why am I having theses dreams that i have no clue about---
    Well, that passage from Mark is a pretty well-known one. It's referenced a lot in popular culture:
    quote:
    * My Name is Legion is a 1976 compilation of three stories by Roger Zelazny.
    * My Name is Legion is a 1999 crime novel by Sheila Martin Berry.
    * My Name is Legion is a 2004 novel by A. N. Wilson.
    * Legion is the main antagonist to Acclaim's Shadow Man. Their role in the game was trying to harness the power of the dark souls and bring about Apocalypse or The End of All Things. They were stopped by Michael LeRoi aka Shadow Man and in the end, died a horrible fate.
    * "My Name is Legion" is a song by Electric Hellfire Club from the album "Witness The Millennium". There is a line "My name is Legion: for I'm many".
    * Legion is the villain in Stephen King's story Storm of the Century
    * Randall Flagg, the villain in Stephen King's The Stand, refers to himself as Legion and has a trace memory of being kicked into a herd of pigs by Jesus.
    * Legion is mentioned in the film The Exorcism of Emily Rose
    * "We are Myria LeJean" is used to introduce this character in Terry Pratchett's Thief of Time. She is a manifestation of an auditor, a being which will be destroyed if it shows any sign of individuality. "Myria" is easily associated with "myriad", and "LeJean" with "legion", alluding to this bible passage.
    from My Name Is Legion - Wikipedia
    People have weird dreams, but often the things we watch and do can inflect our dreams. I'm a fencer and student of the sword, so I have dreams about fighting with swords.
    It's not that weird. I wouldn't worry about it. You're certainly not possessed by a demon, and God only speaks to you in dreams if you're a prophet, I'm pretty sure.

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    arachnophilia
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    Message 5 of 13 (355783)
    10-11-2006 12:04 AM
    Reply to: Message 1 by dreamsscareme5
    10-10-2006 10:21 AM


    "what is thy name"
    why does god talk in 17th century english?

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    DarkBoards
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    Message 6 of 13 (364899)
    11-20-2006 11:54 AM


    Dreamsscareme;
    I wouldn't be so concerned, It's normal to be afraid of the devil and hell in a culture which tries to hard to terrify people into believing in such things. It was however just a dream, the King James style of speaking is a dead giveaway that this is coming from things you've heard around you.
    Just chalk it up to bad dreams and don't worry too much about it.
    Edited by DarkBoards, : No reason given.

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    Taz
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    Message 7 of 13 (364915)
    11-20-2006 12:49 PM
    Reply to: Message 4 by crashfrog
    10-10-2006 5:18 PM


    Isn't there a movie that is specifically about Legion? Can't remember the name of the movie. It's about this one cop that investigates a series of serial killers that seem to kill with the same methods. Specifically, there is one that is executed for all the murders. Right before he was fried, his face turned from this mean killer to an innocent looking man wondering what the hell happened and why the hell was he being fried. The cop eventually finds out that there is a demon jumping from one person to the next making them do stuff.

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    The thread about this map can be found here.

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    Message 8 of 13 (364921)
    11-20-2006 1:19 PM
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    11-20-2006 12:49 PM


    Starred Denzel Washington, John Goodman was in it it was called The Fallen.

    Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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    Archer Opteryx
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    Message 9 of 13 (364935)
    11-20-2006 3:04 PM
    Reply to: Message 1 by dreamsscareme5
    10-10-2006 10:21 AM


    Ideas for Legion
    Everyone in your dream is you.
    A dream is a show put on by your brain as you sleep. During sleep the brain likes to process information it took in while you were awake but didn't get much opportunity to sort. This is why dreams can be useful. They often call attention to things our conscious minds neglect or overlook. When you have a vivid dream it's a good idea to pay attention to it, as you are now doing.
    Just keep in mind that everything in a dream is an image, not the reality. The dream 'you' is not the same person as the real you. The dream 'god' is not really God and the dream 'pigs' are not really pigs. Your brain is the playwrite, director and stage manager all in one. Every figure in your dream is a character in this story you tell yourself.
    Keep in mind too that no one can tell you for sure what a dream means. You are always the best person to decide this. A good way to go about it is to notice certain images and ideas that come up, consider what meanings they have in your waking life, consider what meanings they have for human beings generally, look for connections and puns. Then sketch any interpretations you think of in pencil rather than ink.
    No one can tell you what your dream means because no one knows, as you do, what these words and symbols mean in your own life. It would be well to ask, as Crashfrog suggests, where you heard a reference to the Bible passage. Notice, too, your reaction to the story at the time. Did it frighten you? Anger you? Puzzle you? Which figure in the story did you feel the closest affinity with? Which most intimidated you?
    An Observation
    I will share something with you, if you don't mind. This is just the response of one reader to this story you have shared.
    The theme of the story is plain. Why? Because it is stated clearly at the beginning. 'What is thy name?' The dream poses a question of identity.
    Your dream self can't give a simple answer. Your dream self answers 'Legion.' You are many things, united.
    It's an honest answer. You are a complex creature. A number of contradictory selves inhabit this one body. Yet somehow all of it makes one person. An individual.
    Your comments suggest that this situation troubles you. You link your many-sided self with 'unclean' spirits and 'unclean' animals. You fear that God will regard you as 'unclean' and judge you harshly.
    But even so, you are already questioning whether a harsh judgment is warranted. Pigs may be 'unclean' animals, biblically speaking, but you also notice the pigs in the story are innocent of any crime. They do not deserve what happens to them. You sympathize with their plight and ask why they suffer. If these 'unclean' creatures can really be innocent, it stands to reason that maybe you are innocent, too. Maybe, even if something unpleasant happens, it isn't punishment. Maybe you have still done nothing wrong.
    You haven't done anything wrong. You are innocent.
    A Suggestion
    You say you are fourteen. Many situations come with that.
    Only a short time ago you were a child. The question 'Who am I?' was easy to answer. You would have responded with the name your parents gave you. It's a child's answer, a naive answer. You would have volunteered that word assigned to you by others without a second thought. The ability of one word to sum up everything you are is not a thing you would have questioned.
    Now you are discovering that you are a much more complex being than you ever could have imagined then. You know the question 'Who am I?' has more than one answer. Forced to choose a single word to describe it, your dream self chooses a name that means many--many in one.
    You are indeed many things. You are still that child you once were but you are also not that child. You are the person your parents know and a person they don't know. You are the person you are becoming and you are not yet that person.
    This is a powerful moment in your life. At powerful moments we encounter powerful images in our dreams.
    Rest assured that, though this moment is powerful, it is normal. You are not unclean. No doom is stored up for you. God is not angry to see you leaving childhood behind.
    Please do not judge yourself harshly. (Yes, it is you who judges. The 'god' in your dreams is also you.) Just notice what is happening without judging it. Pay attention to the changes and the complexities you find. Cherish these discoveries the way you cherish any unanswered question about which you are very curious. Explore. Maybe keep a journal, write some poems, make some art. You can find more words, more pictures, to describe what you feel. You don't have to wait for dreams.
    Above all please be kind to yourself. And patient. And unafraid.
    Those are a few suggestions. But as I say, no one can offer you a sure interpretation of something so personal.
    How could they? You are a complex creature, as we know.
    And a courageous one, for sharing this. I wish you the best on your adventure. Godspeed.
    _
    Edited by Archer Opterix, : Revision.
    Edited by Archer Opterix, : Typo repair.
    Edited by Archer Opterix, : typo repair.

    Archer
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    Phat
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    Message 10 of 13 (368005)
    12-06-2006 3:14 PM
    Reply to: Message 1 by dreamsscareme5
    10-10-2006 10:21 AM


    Pig Latin
    D5 writes:
    uummm..i have a question though--why did the pigs drown?
    Good question, since we all know that pigs can swim. Im guessing that the stampede caused the pigs behind to pile onto the pigs in front and make a porkcipitous situation!
    I wouldnt worry about the demon dreamin, however.

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    Nighttrain
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    Message 11 of 13 (368059)
    12-06-2006 7:49 PM


    Legion
    Always thought the 'legion' drowning was a backhanded pesher crack at the authorities without risking the chop.

      
    riVeRraT
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    Message 12 of 13 (368218)
    12-07-2006 12:35 PM
    Reply to: Message 9 by Archer Opteryx
    11-20-2006 3:04 PM


    Re: Ideas for Legion
    Pretty awesome reply. I agre with everyhing, except I believe God does talk to us in our dreams.
    I would also recommend to pray and ask God what the dream was supposed to mean. If it was from Him, you will recieve an answer, IMO.

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    Greatest I am
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    Message 13 of 13 (381887)
    02-02-2007 11:02 AM


    Dreams
    Dreams may be used by God to prompt us to search.
    The so called sub conscience may also play a role and also promp us to action in various directions. Since we are not sure where dreams come from we should view them carefully to evaluate whether they are senseless ramblings of the mind or something deeper.
    I think we are capable of both types.
    Regards
    DL

      
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