Answers to athiest's dum disputes

I have noticed that eveolutionists and other religions have dum disputes against christianity so that the don't have to believe it.Here are some question and here are my answeres.Q: If God is such a loving god, then why would god through us in to hell just for not accepting Jesus Christ!A: First of all, god gave you freewill, correct? Now God is giving you a choice wheather you would like to be in his prescence for eternity just by simply accepting the free gift of eternal life that jesus suffered so much just for you to have or wheather would like to have nothing to do with god. Now, why would a loving god take a person who wanted nothing to do with god for his whole life, who has rejected him, and bloted him out of his mind, why should god force them into his prescence for eternity. That person wanted eternal seperation from him and that is what hell is.Q: How do we know that god loves us? Just cause the bible says so? Just cause he said so?A: That has got to be one of the stupidest questions I have ever heard.Reasons why I know that GOD LOVES me.1. He created me
God created every single one of us for the one and only purpose
loving us.2. He sent his sone to the cross for our sins.
DUH!!!! If god is not a loving god than why would he suffer so tramendously just for out salvation.Q: Why can't we get to heaven if were good even though we don't accept christ.A: The bible says: "For all have sin, and come short of the glory of god." and "For the wages of sin is death" and "For by grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourselfs it is the gift of god" and "If you confess with your mouth that jesus christ is lord and believe in you heart that god raised him from the dead then you are saved."Q: How do we know that Jesus raised from the dead. There is no evidence.A: 1. There were 500 people that saw him raise from the dead. EYE WITNESSES.
2. There is more evidence for the ressurection of christ then there is for julious ceaser's life. I bet you did'nt know that.I wish i could do some more question but I am very tired.

And I'll bet you don't know that either, because it's nonsense. You may want it to be so, but as they say, "wish in one hand....."

1.) Evolution isn't a religion anymore than gravity is a religion. Hey, how about the cult of Realitivity and Quantum mechanics? Also, Buddists, Muslems, Hindus, ect might take some exception to your belief that they have a different faith because they simply don't want to be christians. That has to be one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard. I agree. Its kinda like asking if the easter bunny or santa clause loves us. Of course, they question you should ask is "Why do I believe there is a god in the first place.?" 1.) Well, your parents created you. Also, don't you find it kinda shallow and creepy that a god would create people for his own selfish purpose and that purpose only. Guess all your hopes and dreams are just rubbish, getting in the way of god, "the stalker",'s love.2.) Hmm, or maybe jesus was just some poor guy who got tortured and killed like so many millions of others. If someone goes around calling themselves god , we usually call them nuts. Heck, its not like there weren't dozens of messaisic cults in the first century. Jesus just happened to be head of a cult that caught on. 1.) Wow, 500 hundred, all reported by the bible, with no independant sources. Of course, there is no way that the story or the numbers are made up. Additionaly, who cares if 500 people did see it. There are MILLIONs who claim to have seen ufos, and hundreds of thousands of cases of people reporting being "abductted". By that logic, we should also belief in grey guys abducting people and giving the probe.
2.) MORE EVIDENCE FOR THE RESSURECTION OF CHRIST? That is funny. Outside the bible, find me the sources that attest to the ressurection, along with the corroborationd evidence. Meanwhile, I am sure we can dig up records from the Roman Empire, several of the countries he conquered, as well as various other historical documents, each from independant scources that verify julian ceasers life. Heck, I would just settle for that kinda support for jesus's life, let alone ressurection.[This message has been edited by Darwin Storm, 04-08-2004]

.. I have a comment directed at you.If your God is so loving and created you, wouldn't he have given you the ability to spell somewhat better. Your post shows the typical, atrocious, level of education so rife in the Creationist fold.

To start, "dum" is spelled "dumb". Most of the world isn't out to create "disputes" against Christianity just so they don't "have" to believe it. You don't avidly try to create disputes about every single religion just so you don't "have" to believe it do you? Most people in the world weren't brought up in your religion; they usually have no reason to consider it like you have no reason to consider Buddhism. If this is truly God's intentions why not make it more obvious? Most of the world hasn't heard the story of Jesus or had any reason to believe in it due to their own culture/religious upbringing. If God truly just wants to see whether you'll accept Jesus as your savior or not then it sure would make sense for him to come down and tell everyone, or appear to every living person in the world visually as a transparent holy-ghost-like-being and talk with them rather then hoping an old book called the Bible just happens to make it to every single person in the world. It's not like, when God asks, he has to worry about being lied to and not being able to tell.For example, if I want to find out if my children truly love me, and assuming I can tell when they're lying, I ask them directly, visually stand there and ask. I don't write down a few things about what I've done for them and hide them around the house hoping they happen to find it. I require evidence that your religion's supernatural deity created me and not another religion's supernatural deity (or none at all). I do not take any "personal religious experiences" you've had as evidence as that is subjective and nearly every religion claims the same type of feelings, including many African tribal religions. The power of self prophecy among people can make themselves believe and feel almost anything. Good question, why would he? He's God.. he could have simply snapped his fingers and said, "Your sins are forgiven, believe in me," rather then need his son to be tortured to death. Not according to the Buddha, I need to attain Nirvana. Not according to Hinduism, I must follow the caste system. Not according to Lao-Tse of Taoism, I must become one with the Tao. Not according to the African Ibo society, I must give homage to the Nature Gods.I think you get the point.. many religions have their version of how to get to the good "afterlife". It's not very suprising though, like all animals we too want to survive. Unlike other animals though we do know we will eventually die (stop surviving), so it's much easier on the mind to imagine we in fact do continue to "survive" after death -- i.e. we still exist. Belief in the after-life is really just a primal need to continue surviving. This is absurd.I assume you get this from (1 Cor. 15:6). So you're claiming the only evidence we have for the existence of "Julious Ceaser [sic]" (spelled, Julius Caesar) is less then a single book that just simply says "500 people saw this"? Hrmm.. there are a lot of administration records of Julius Caesar from the Roman government, an entire biography of Julius Caesar by Caius Suetonius Tranquillus who was in charge of the imperial archives under the emperor Hadrian (who ruled 117-138), the many sculptures of Julius Caesar, and yet another biography done by a man named Plutarch of Chaeronea (lived, 45-120 CE). All of this you consider less evidence then a single book that simply says "500 people saw this"? Like I said, that is absurd.[This message has been edited by Garf, 04-09-2004]

Honestly, I've known many Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Moslems, Taoists, pagans, agnostics, atheists, even the odd Evolution-Religion-ite, and I've never heard one raise a dispute with Christianity, dum or otherwise, "so they didn't have to believe it". Most give the appearance, at least, of believing what they believe, well, because they believe it. Occasionally a Jewish acquaintance has grumbled in earshot about you folks appropriating the Old Testament, but that's about it.I've never had one proselytize me, either. Invite me as a guest to their celebrations, yes, but not presume to inform me of the Truth. But I've had total strangers knock on my door and try to sell me some Jesus. I've had them try to remove solid science from my children's textbooks and force their prayers and religious symbols onto public property. Maybe that's why I do respond to some of the more egregious examples of Christian nonsense in public. If any of my Jewish friends believe that bats are birds and hares chew the cud, they keep it to themselves. Maybe it's just a question of good breeding.

Right now I am laughing at your responces. One seccond please! OK.Now, time for my responces.Dispute 1: You say millions of thousands of people have claim to see ufo's. But they are very faig(hower you spell it) pictures and it is very hard to make out the diference between a stealth and a ufo over belchem at night. Once again, forgive me for my typos. Jesus appeared physicly, not as a ghost to them and ate and drank. If everything was in only the minds of them then he would not be physical and therefore could pick up anything because they would just be haluosinating. Also, what they saw was NOT what they expected. People usualy supposidly eye witness imagined aliens because they expected this.
They did not even think jesus christ was alive.Dispute 2: Why can't god just snap his fingures and say you are forgiven you say. Now, your logic seems to be the inferior. If you had read the bible it says that without the shed of blood that there is no remision of sins. Now, because God is such a loving god. He sent his one and only son to die on the cross for our sins. While jesus was on the cross, God's wrath was on jesus christ. GOD is LOVE. And don't say that was wrong to punish his son because all three, the father, the son and the holy spirit, before the begining of time had this ultimate plan planned. Also, it has been planted in the mind of every tribe and cults that bloodshed is the only remission of sin. Sometimes it is misunderstood though. Why is it that so many tribes practice sacraficing animals for forgivness.Dispute 3: You said Jesus just happened to be tortured and killed beyoind any bodies suffering ever in history. If you didn't know, Jesus christ many times said that he would suffer. In the old testimant many times it stated very clearly that a mesiah would come to relieve the sin of the world and would be beaten brutily and crucified. The severioty of his beatings were in ISAIH 53. And also, everything jesus did when he entered to city was like he was purposly trying to get crucified. AND then he did nothing when he was suffering. Surley you and I would of said something like "You beep, all you son of a beep. I hate you beep.". Sorry. Any way, jesus did nothing.Dispute 4: You ask why doesn't god just come to everybody. If you had read the bible then you will have read where is says that it is for man to find god. Read romans where it says the world is evidence of god.Now, more then 500 hundred people saw him, sorry to decieve you. Around that time, natiions all around the world had claimed to have seen him come to them and share his message I believe. I definatly know the native americans claim this.Now about theese other religions, let me just clarify in one word why they believe what they do. SATAN. Satan is a deciever and he is out there to make it confusing as hell so that nobody finds the right path wich is jesus. Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the father accept through me."

If christians actually believed that, there would be none of this "young earth" nonsense getting spouted around here, would there?And we're always happy to provide you with a chuckle....

Hi, Name 25 of them. Now, using you logic, Satan could have been using Jesus to make sure no one finds the True path. Jesus' words you quote are exactly what you would expect a deceiver to actually say, and Jesus did die a criminal Brian

You Go,my fellow christian,you go!!!!
You did some excellent work here,and polish them off with the rest when you can,because if we love Jesus we desire to help all the lost,but if they don't listen to you,wipe the dust off of your shoe and go on,at least God saw what you tried to do,amen.
There are so many world individuals out there who seem totally self centered and want it all to be their way with no working for anything at all,yes,faith saves us,but faith without deeds is dead because your faith moves you to do something,amen. I know you know this.but so many don't seem to understand. People are going to go to the lake of fire because they do have free will and they can choose wether to believe or not.True,some atheists do seem to be polite people,but that doesn't appear to be the majority.
I find that when people want to do sinful acts they try to justify them first.I know before I totally gave my life to God,I tried that,but it just left me feeling dirt cheap!
I am convinced that there is no true happiness apart from God,because if there was,I believe I would have found it since I once lived to have a good time.Now I live without having to go find a good time,it's here already,and I enjoy life!!!
When you know your life really does have a purpose,a well thought out plan,life is a joy!!!
Our DNA is proof that God made each one of us by his own hand,amen.
Please keep trying to reach others with truth,and may God continue to help you and bless you,in the love of Jesus Christ,amen.

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Desdamona*

since you don't believe in God or any god that I know of,it may surprise you that one day you will have to join the one world religion very soon or be killed,because Inter faithism is already here and the prophecy cannot be stoped now.It's all happening,so go ahead,declair that you don't believe in God,you will either believe in the one world religion thats coming,or you'll be done away with.
The one world religion is the false church thats about to take over globally to usher in the AC. Once it's set up,you have a choice to make.
what will you do? Join or fight? why would you fight it,when they too are not saved,they are into paganism and false teachings and are going the same direction you are,only they say they do believe in a god?
Is it wrong for me to tell you that after you called God a liar? I think not.
satan wouldn't die for you or anyone,even though you don't believe him either,right?
so you believe people just popped up on the earth accidentally one fine day,right? WOW,and this is suppose to make us think you are real smart?
if things are evolving at all,why aren't they still evolving?
do you believe you are an animal,and you live by your instincts?
Well fallen man has instincts that are not the will of God,and they are not good things.
so if you are no different than an animal,would it be acceptable to treat you like one? I am not mean to animals,I love animals,but would you sleep out side? Or do you feel that you are above the animals some how? If you are an animal,and thats what you are,then you cannot expect to be treated differently because I believe their should be equality among the animals,and they they should all be given equal rights. I also believe they should eat animal food,and live out doors,and not expected to clean up after themselves,or be treated better than those who declare that they are people,different from the animal kingdom.
If you feel you are an animal,then what you mean is that it's not your fault that you behave as you do,and that you do what you do purely by instinct,and that you have no control over it what so ever,right?
So,if you evolved,where are those who are still evolving and after a few hundred years you would think some more evolving would take place so we could all see it!!!
What you fail to understand here,is that one day satin will demand worship from all those he can get it from,and while he loves it that you are an atheist,thats not going to be good enough to him soon.he would rather you belong to a false church or an occult,or satanic group,so you will change one day soon,all of you will,wait and see.

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Desdamona*

Can you ever start to make some sense just once?

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Desdamona*

You are so right!!! Great post my christian friend in Christ!!!
God says we should seek him and if we seek him with our hearts,we will find him,amen. When I finally did this,he opened the door and let me know he is real,and he is alive,amen.
Taste and see that the Lord is Good!!!
what I don't understand is why people believed in the Titanic,but don't believe the events of Noah's ark!!! The bible even goes into great detail how it was made too!!! Do you think if it were possible the world could survive another few hundred years that anyone would believe the accounts of the Titanic,or would they all say it too was a hoax,ect......even though we all know it did happen in our time?
people tend to believe what they want to believe,and so many of them turn on God when they pray for a car,or a girlfriend/boyfriend,ect...and they don't get it,they cry,there is no God!!! they just don't get it!!! Some times God says "NO".
They want God to do everything for them without them doing anything in return.They want all of God's goodies but they don't want to be good.
I know when people rebel against God,that is not a very good sign at all,but what are these people going to do when the AC is here and they have to join the global church?
Will they take the mark of the beast or will they go to their safe place until they are forced to make a choice?
Don't they understand that if Hitler got away with what he did,the AC will for sure be able to until his time is up!!!
Do they not know the bible so thats why they cannot see prophecy coming true very fast now?
Pray for them,o.k?
Don't let anyone shake your faith,you know satan is behind all of the mean remarks towards God,yet when he decides he wants people to know he's real so they can worship him,the atheists will no longer be atheists then.
atheists don't believe in God,and God doesn't believe in atheists,so whose gonna win? I know God already has,amen.

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Desdamona*

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True,some atheists do seem to be polite people,but that doesn't appear to be the majority.

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How many atheists do you know?

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Our DNA is proof that God made each one of us by his own hand,amen.

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Really? Can you explain how DNA is proof of our individual divine origin?You could begin by explaining why God sometimes screws up the DNA of an individual so they get some terrible genetic disease.

First of all,I really do hope you like jew's because I'm related by blood to them. I love Jew's!!!
I am just wanting to know something from you,o.k?
What are you going to do when you must join the one world religion or be killed?
Will you take the mark of the beast,yes,or no? just humor me,even if you don't believe it will happen,o.k? Just give an honest answer.
What do you think about the new I.D. implantable chip thats being sold to the public right now?
Why is the antichrist also known as the one who pierces?
No one believed us christians about five years ago when we said the chip was coming soon.People even laughed about it.
Will you still be an atheist when the next ruler comes and he's much meaner than Hitler?
I suppose you believe the I.D. implantable chip that can be used as a tracking device and contain all your medical history and DNA,and financial status,ect.... is safe,right?
Have you really convinced yourself that you won't have to make a choice whether or not to join a global inter-faith religion,called the one world religion?
Bible prophecy is coming true at an even faster speed now!!!
Read The bible and see for yourself,o.k?
I do care about what happens to all of you,even if I do sound a tad gruff sometimes,you were made for greater things,and I just pray you'll try one more time.
Seek The Lord with all your heart and you will find him.

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Desdamona*