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AdminAsgara
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Message 1 of 20 (398644)
05-01-2007 11:09 PM


For May, 2007 (as per previous months):
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Include author, forum name, thread name, post number, eg:
Name: Velvet Tongue
Forum: Biological Evolution
Thread: I'm no monkey
Post #: 17
A link to the message, and perhap a SHORT comment would also be nice. But, this is NOT a place to debate the referenced topic - so be nice.
A fairly liberal use of this topic is a good thing for indexing some nice messages that are otherwise doomed to be lost in the clutter. So, if you encounter a message that seems to say something of special substance, please give it a plug/reference in this topic.
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    jar
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    Message 2 of 20 (398645)
    05-01-2007 11:12 PM
    Reply to: Message 1 by AdminAsgara
    05-01-2007 11:09 PM


    One_Charred_Wing identifies the problem.
    In Message 32 One_Charred_Wing identifies the real problem.
    Guess the problem's not with homosexuals, but with people who want to control the personal lives of other people?

    Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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    RAZD
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    Message 3 of 20 (398835)
    05-02-2007 9:07 PM


    photo essay speaks many words ...
    arachnophilia with Message 16 puts the issue of similarity due to convergence versus similarity due to evolution into perspective.
    Enjoy.

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    Nighttrain
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    Message 4 of 20 (398918)
    05-03-2007 1:42 AM
    Reply to: Message 3 by RAZD
    05-02-2007 9:07 PM


    Re: photo essay speaks many words ...
    Move over, Razzy, I`ll second that.

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    Minnemooseus
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    Message 5 of 20 (399302)
    05-04-2007 9:49 PM


    Our recently arrived Pete OS at "Reasons for Creationist Persistence"
    Name: Pete OS
    Forum: Is It Science?
    Thread: Reasons for Creationist Persistence
    Post #: 155
    Heavy post, from an evolution believing (ex-YEC?) engineer evangelical Christian.
    6 replies so far.
    Rather hard to believe no one else POTMed it. Now, I got to read those replies.
    Moose
    Added by edit: He also seems to have some pretty good message(s) down-thread, such as #164. I don't recall what happened up-thread.
    Edited by Minnemooseus, : See above.
    Edited by Minnemooseus, : Added to the previous edit.

    Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
    Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
    "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
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    nator
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    Message 6 of 20 (399304)
    05-04-2007 10:03 PM


    Jar in Reasons for Creationist Persistence"
    Name: jar
    Forum: Is it Science?
    Thread:Reasons for Creationist Persistence
    Post#:168
    Excellent, succinct description of how the peer-review process of science upholds very high ethical standards.

    Jon
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    Message 7 of 20 (399434)
    05-05-2007 3:32 PM


    Jar
    Geology and the Great Flood
    Geological question
    Biblical Creation Scientists just plain lie!
    jar writes:
    Biblical Creation Scientists simply lie.
    There is no other way to explain it.
    The missing mud is everywhere.
    Something about those three lines just says elegant truth in ways difficult to describe. Afterall, is there any other way to explain it? Not likely.
    Jon

    In considering the Origin of Species, it is quite conceivable that a naturalist... might come to the conclusion that each species had not been independently created, but had descended, like varieties, from other species. - Charles Darwin On the Origin of Species
    _ _ _ _ _ ____________ _ _ _ _ _
    En el mundo hay multitud de idiomas, y cada uno tiene su propio significado. - I Corintios 14:10

    purpledawn
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    Message 8 of 20 (400589)
    05-15-2007 11:04 AM


    Chiroptera on Logical Arguments
    Name: Chiroptera
    Forum: Faith and Belief
    Thread: God's existence cannot be proven logically!
    Post #: Message 7
    A nice unpersonified, uncluttered explanation of logic and logical arguments.
    Logic is merely a tool to help us draw the correct conclusions based on what we know or what we think we know, but it will never be definitive since at all times our knowledge about the real world is limited and usually inaccurate to some degree.
    An enlightening and enjoyable read. Thanks

    Dr Jack
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    Message 9 of 20 (400679)
    05-16-2007 4:40 AM
    Reply to: Message 3 by RAZD
    05-02-2007 9:07 PM


    Re: photo essay speaks many words ...
    Thirded.

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    jar
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    Message 10 of 20 (400718)
    05-16-2007 12:00 PM


    Jazzns in the Falwell memorial thread
    In Message 55 Jazzns summs it up.
    What good does it do to secure all of the legal or contractual provisions that will protect our freedoms and values if all the people in our nation CHOOSE to live in ignorance and CHOOSE to throw their freedoms to the wind for the promises of these false prophets of religion.

    Aslan is not a Tame Lion

    Vacate
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    Message 11 of 20 (401321)
    05-19-2007 7:26 AM


    NoseyNed and the evolution machine
    Name: NoseyNed
    Forum:Biological Evolution
    Thread:A Beginning
    Post#:21
    Nosey blends some fun with fact - and manages a great explanation of evolution.
    Thanks Nosey for a good read

    anastasia
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    Message 12 of 20 (402556)
    05-27-2007 11:37 PM
    Reply to: Message 1 by AdminAsgara
    05-01-2007 11:09 PM


    I would like to nominate both jar and Purpledawn for their responses numbered 15 and 16, in 'The God of the Bible Evil?'
    Begin AbE by Admin:
    Thread: The God of the Bible is Evil
    Author: Jar and PurleDawn
    Jar's Message: Message 15
    PurpleDawn's Message: Message 16
    End AbE by Admin
    I will come back later to input the codes properly, but I just wanted to say: I have been very off and on lately due to being busy...and just reading randomly I have noticed that both of these members have calmly and cooly denounced some of the common misunderstandings of the Bible with patience and a thorough understanding of the text. There are plenty of legitimate problems with the Bible, but it is so refreshng to know that some people can still get more out of it than meets the eye, by actually doing the research, and they can capture so much of the mystique of times gone by which is valuable even if you are not a religious person, and touches all of us on some level as humans.
    I especially liked that jar has seen through the eyes of the Hebrews, and in contrast, (although PD is good at that too), PD has made the same stories relevent to our time and our frame of mind...well, if we are open minded enough to see that we are all human!
    There is, to me at least, always something about a real undaunted and calm knowledge of a text for its own sake...not as part of any religious war...that defeats any argument. It is the feeling that even if I don't believe in God, I wouldn't want to miss out on that tidbit of insight into another world, and to take what I could from it, as part of the collective past we all share and should all appreciate.
    So, thanks! to everyone who can see the harmony and sense in the bigger picture despite the criticism or personal beliefs. We have come to regard Eastern or lesser known philosphies in an exotic or holistic, or 'interesting' light, and there is SO much great history in our own traditions that most of us are throwing out before we get to know the half of it.
    Edited by Admin, : No reason given.

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    NosyNed
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    Message 13 of 20 (402997)
    05-31-2007 10:32 AM


    Dr. A spells it out.
    Message 183
    It's too bad none of those who it applies to will comment on this. It is very clear and covers lots of the bases.

    cavediver
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    Message 14 of 20 (403054)
    05-31-2007 4:36 PM


    Modulous' reasons to love, reasons to hate
    Name: Modulous
    Forum:Social Issues and Creation/Evolution
    Thread:What Happens When You Remove Faith
    Post#:36
    Some elemental but key truths here...
    f you knew there was no God would you rape and kill your neighbour for the contents of their house? Probably not. If you lived in a small tribe, you might go and kill the other small tribe over there and steal the contents of their house. Not only are you not going to be punished for it, but it doesn't necessarily scream against your humanity to do it...
    ...Now - can we talk about those damned commie-French? I think it wise we don't even begin to discuss the shifty asians or women or shifty asian women. Before we do though, us Stretfordians have got some beef to sort out with the Heaton Park posse.
    nice

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    bluegenes
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    Message 15 of 20 (403060)
    05-31-2007 4:59 PM
    Reply to: Message 14 by cavediver
    05-31-2007 4:36 PM


    Re: Modulous' reasons to love, reasons to hate
    I'll second that, cavediver, and add the extract that I remember noticing particularly.
    Modulous writes:
    To the OP, personally I think that religion serves us now by providing another layer of grouping. Another us versus them mentality above and beyond the layer of nation. If we removed that grouping by removing faith, we might find that there are less reasons to distrust/hate another group. One less us versus them.
    That sums the most urgent and political reason for arguing against faith and the religions on forums like this one.

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