Longest Land Meridian

This thread is devoted to the determination of the longest land meridian (LLM).This is defined as the meridian of longitude that passes over the most land in a complete 360 degree encirclement of the earth.This is one of many sites making the claim that the meridian passing throught the Great Pyramind (GP) is the LLM.
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The pyramid is located at 29 degrees, 58 minutes, 51.06 seconds north latitude, and 31 degrees, 9 minutes, and 0.0 seconds east longitude. The north-south axis is the longest land meridian, passing through Asia, Africa, Europe, and Antarctica,

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This claim was agreed to earlier by WT as one of the "proofs of God".In the earlier thread Lindum gave us calculations showing the length of the land under the meridian passing through the GP and one about 300 miles west that is calculated to be longer.To make this simple Percy started to break it down.

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Starting with the meridian through the Great Pyramid, please let us know if you agree with the first line of the table from Message 718:

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Longitude: 31.134458
Latitude Start: 29.978810
Latitude End: 31.595859
Distance (miles): 111.73
This figure happens to correspond to the distance from the Great Pyramid north along the 31.134458 meridian to the Mediterranean coast of Egypt. I've checked it on a map, though not as accurately as Lindum, and I agree with this figure. Do you agree with this figure? Please let me know and we'll move to the next line in Lindum's table.

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Can we start this thread by discussing just this measurement?Willowtree suggested he would need a day or two to look at the whole LLM question. By making it much simpler this way he should be able to comment on this one measurement faster than that.However, we are still waiting for any of the supporters of this idea about the GP to step forward to check the result.

Thread moved here from the Proposed New Topics forum.

Did you ever have a chance to run the South American route?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

How about we get the distance from the GP to the Mediterranean nailed down first? We don't need the longest meridian we only need one longer that the GP meridian.One thing at a time.

The original claim about LLM is further expanded here: Please scroll to message # 684:EvC Forum: PROOF OF GOD The only other information about the claim I have is: From Message # 684 "Proof of God": This site further expands:FROM: Message # 684 "Proof of God" Until the content above is adressed, and why anyone should believe Lindum, and why Lindum's figures are correct, and why Lindum's LLM determination is correct, and corroborating sources confirm Lindum's figures (both sets) then Lindum and his supporters are making unsupported assertions.This message has been edited by WILLOWTREE, 08-05-2004 06:29 PM

No problem. I was simply curious.Makes me wish I still had access to Arcinfo.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

This thread is about ONLY the LLM Willowtree. The rest has nothing to do with that.The current question is do you or do you now agree with the first measurement from the GP north to the coast. If not why?What measurements of the LLM do you have? How long is the LM through the GP?Your sources don't have any back up for their claims, WT. Lindum has given you the complete details. What is wrong with his details?You're starting to repeat yourself without addressing the numbers given to you. Almost all of the "above content" has nothing at all to do with the LLM. The few lines that do simply make a statment that proves nothing at all.We don't "believe" Lindum. We can see what he did and check it! Please check it to confirm or reject the distance from the GP to the Mediterranean coast. With your sources we only have the choice of believing them or not. There is nothing supplied to check their work. When I checked their conclusion I found them to be wrong.You don't like Lindum's result? Then show what is wrong with it. Is the GP 111.73 miles from the sea or not? If not how far is it?You must have access to an atlas. Open it and measure the distance with a ruler. You should be able to get an answer of around 100 miles plus or minus about 10 miles depending on the scale of the map.If you want more precision get a better atlas. You could also use the co ordinates of a site on the seacoast and approximately north of the pyramid and then adjust.By all means, don't believe Lindum. Check the calculations yourself. Is the GP 111 miles south of the Mediterranean sea or not?(added by edit)
I just did a check with the much less accurate MS Mappoint and got 109 miles. That is within 2 %. We can distinguish between Lindum's two meridian calculations with that degree of accuracy. (though I'm sure that last part is gibberish to WT )This message has been edited by NosyNed, 08-05-2004 07:22 PM

Hi WT,Since this is part of the "preponderance of evidence" for the "proof of God", I'm surprised that it has still not been dealt with after many weeks of waiting.We all have reasonably easy access to accurate geographical information, unavailable to those in the 19th century, and the claim is easily falsifiable.Do you agree that the distance from the Great Pyramid to the coast off the Mediterranean is about 112 miles? If not, what to you make it?Further references to sources regurgitating Smyth’s claim are irrelevant unless they at least supply some numbers to support it.

Hi WillowTree,When you're ready, could you please confirm whether the distance along a north/south meridian from the Great Pyramid to the Mediterranean coast of Egypt is around 112 miles? If you can confirm then we can move on to the next line in the table. Thanks!--Percy

Willowtree And this would be the William Petrie found and this websiteEgypt: William Flinders Petrie, Father of PotsFrom this website. I supplied the italics to highlight the pertainent area.Perhaps you might wish to remove him as a reference?

You've made a mistake - no big deal.I wonder if your proclivity for error affects your 2141BC/Thuban/North star "refutation" ?

Hi Percy; NosyNed; Lindum: Message 5 supplies the fullest information pertaining to the center of world land area claim.This post has been avoided.I suspect opponents, IF correct, would instantly abandon the alleged narrow focus of this topic (LLM) and declare victory over the center claim.The LLM claim ALWAYS resided in the center claim.Now we have insistence that only LLM is at issue.You all seek to focus only on LLM with the intent of disproving center claim - I wish you all just admit this.The link above explains the center and LLM claim.Previously, I said Rutherford was not part of the center/LLM claim - I now stand corrected.Rutherford expands the full meaning as to his endorsement of the claim.Does Lindum's LLM also cross the least amount of sea ?Please address every item in this post.thanks,WT

Willowtree I shall have more to say on this when the library tracks down there copy of Petries book. In the meantime I am gone to another province to work starting Monday and we will discuss that aspect then.However,as concerns this. You are forgetting that it is you who have not follwed up with your sources means of determination. Our dispute as you recall centers around your sources claim that the star thuban was precisely at the North celestial pole in 2141B.C.You said that you had outside sources for backing up your claim.Present them.Talk to you next weekend hopefully.

The LLM claim and the world land area claim are independent. It is possible for one to be right and the other wrong. There is no need to consider these claims together.We're focusing on the LLM claim in this thread. Focusing on one claim per thread is necessary because combining all the claims in a single thread made it impossible to make progress on any of them. If you would like to consider the land area claim at the same time as the LLM claim, then simply open another thread for it. As I already said above, the two claims are independent. Proving your LLM claim wrong says nothing either way about your land area claim. First, understand that all meridians are of equal length, since they all go pole to pole. This means that the land and sea distances added together equal the distance pole to pole. Any meridian which crosses the greatest amount of land must, by simple mathematics, cross the least amount of sea.Second, Lindum does not claim that his meridian crosses the greatest amount of land. He simply says that his meridian crosses more land than a meridian through the apex of the Great Pyramid, and that therefore the Great Pyramid meridian cannot be the longest land meridian.We're going through Lindum's table of meridian land distances for both his and the GP meridians line by line so that we can verify whether your LLM claim is true or not. In other words, we're trying to verify whether or not Lindum's meridian is longer than the GP meridian.You can find the full tables for both the GP and Lindum's meridians at Message 718, and here is the information from the first line of the table: This happens to be the distance from the GP to the Egyptian coast of the Mediterranean Sea. Could you please confirm that you agree with this figure so that we may move on to the next line of the GP meridian table.--Percy

Well, within 600 years of then, anyway....At the rate precession happens, it would have been about 3.5 degrees away by 2141. ( from http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Thuban )