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Author Topic:   The Immortal, Eternal God is Dead . . .
kuresu
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Message 1 of 4 (379659)
01-25-2007 12:18 AM


another question:
people often describe God as living. or so it seems. i have a problem with this.
being called "alive", or "living", carries the implication of death. what lives, dies. it also means that at one time, you did not exist (as in, your soul/mind/conscience/however else you define it), and that at a later point, you will no longer exist (unless you believe in some sort of afterlife, at which point you stop existing on this world, but move to another world).
if God is "alive", he did not exist at one point. He then, is not eternal. If he is "living", he will no longer exist at one point. he is not, then, immortal. God, then, is limited.
I contend that God, if he exists (which many here do believe) would have to just "be". In other words, he's a rock. To be immortal and eternal, one cannot be alive, or have been alive, or will be alive.
basically, God is neither alive or dead, but just "is".

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Message 2 of 4 (381865)
02-02-2007 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by kuresu
01-25-2007 12:18 AM


I don't know if the other admins just missed this, or if no one knew what to do about it.
I question whether this will go anywhere, because I wonder whether it's just a matter of semantics and we'll just end up trying to define the word living. Kuresu, it doesn't seem you're contending anything except the definition of that word.
Any other admins have a thought?

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kuresu
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Message 3 of 4 (381899)
02-02-2007 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminTL
02-02-2007 10:08 AM


just a thought I had.
glad someone finally got around to looking at it.
it probably won't generate much debate (very few of my threads have--only 2 can I name: morality and evolution, why do right).
I'd like to see it promoted, if only to see what others have to say on the issue.
i'm sort of contending the notion that God is alive, thanks to the definition of living (or rather, what living implies--death).

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02-02-2007 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by kuresu
02-02-2007 11:38 AM


Semantics
I like your thread and think it can make for interesting subject, but at the same time I agree with AdminTL that we might find ourselves sparring over semantics and the definition of "living," rather than actually discussing much of the premise you have presented.
Nonetheless, I say its promotable insofar that it doesn't focus too heavily on the semantical issues.
But I will let TL handle it as a courtesy of not stepping on his toes. I'm just chiming in on TL's request for input.

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