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Origen
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Message 1 of 8 (372882)
12-29-2006 11:14 PM


An American Indian friend of mine agrees with the YEC proposition that the earth is no more than 6000-to-10000 years of age. We had a delightful conversation and it truly gave true meaning to the original Thanksgiving spirit. I learned that the old way of the North American Indian's view on the Great Spirit was a monotheistic one. Hindus are Indian and are thus allowed to join an Indian reservation. A dumb idea. This NewAge view of the Indians has done nothing but write books for evolutionists that contain several errors of what the North American Indians say about themselves.
We began to discuss the origin of both whites and Indians in America and agreed that evolutionary dating methods of human migration are nothing more than a priori scheme to promote the theory. For example, in the evolution line of thought, humans have been on this earth in one form or another for some 4-millions years. If this were true then America should have already been populated with several million Indians and White people long before the 17th century!! When evolutionists are confronted with this issue they insist that death answers that skepticism. However, if mankind has been on this earth for even a few 100,000 years many trillions have lived and died. Where are their fossils? There are not enough human remains found in the dirt to support the long age quesses of evolutionists.
Evolution theory is largely based on sex. After all, humans breed and breeding in the ancient days was no different than breeding today. Humans are horny! So if we can find dinosaur remains that supposedly date back some 65-million years ago, why can't we find trillions of human fossils? And why is the population of humans today so small if compound interest demonstrates that humans could fill the earth in less than 30,000 years? The 20th century was a century of war and death in general. Yet our human population seems uneffected by it.
Is there a sense of reality that atheists can accept in this line of skepticism?

Everything was nothing before there was something.
Everything is something even if its nothing at all.
For nothingness came from Something, and that
Something has always been there.
Without an Infinite Designer, nothing,
could not have ever been.
For even Nothing is Something;
And from Something...came everything.
~ Jason Fessenden

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Message 2 of 8 (372921)
12-30-2006 2:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Origen
12-29-2006 11:14 PM


topic # 2
Which way to you want to go with this topic---faith/belief or Science? You cannot use science topics or forums to begin "preaching" to evolutionists about creationism.
You need to decide whether or not there is proof that the earth is 6000+ years old and present this proof in as scientific a way as you can (without even bringing the Bible into it, since the Bible is faith-based) or you can decide to discuss your beliefs in a faith/belief forum. You cannot bring science into faith/belief and you cannot use faith/belief to attack science.
So tell me which direction that you want to go and get back to me on it.


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    Origen
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    Message 3 of 8 (372928)
    12-30-2006 3:29 AM
    Reply to: Message 2 by AdminPhat
    12-30-2006 2:46 AM


    Re: topic # 2
    Sir, I made a clear cut argumentation of refutation. You are trying to cling onto the $tereotype that Creationism is not science. Well, maybe you should learn that our modern scientific knowledge and great feats of acheviment come from Christians like Newton etc., etc., ect.,+more etcs; and even now the 400-year practice continues with these great men of science and has not declined in scientific discipline!! Evolution only has 150-years of experience in which is all based on first an assumption and then these assumptions turned into presumption and then $old on lunch-boxes has a presupposition.
    So please, Sir, spare me the bias $tereotype and uphold the name of this website for the sake of true knowledge of all spectrums of science and knowable history.
    Do with this topic as you see fit; it's not my website and you make the rules.
    PS. Why do you insist to monopolize on thought? What are you afraid of that you would willing refuse data and hide the facts?
    Edited by Origen, : No reason given.

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    Message 4 of 8 (373005)
    12-30-2006 12:40 PM
    Reply to: Message 3 by Origen
    12-30-2006 3:29 AM


    Re: topic # 2
    Sir, I made a clear cut argumentation of refutation.
    Apparently you're not familiar enough with the creation/evolution debate to see how many arguments you made. Let me see if I can help you some:
    Origen writes:
    We began to discuss the origin of both whites and Indians in America and agreed that evolutionary dating methods of human migration are nothing more than a priori scheme to promote the theory.
    One topic. This would be a scientific topic that could prompt quite a bit of digging into why science says humans arrived in North America at least 13 or 14 thousand years ago, if not more.
    You also added that North American Indians are misrepresented as to wha they say about themselves and that human migration theories are just a scheme to promote evolution. This is related to this first topic, but it does make it wider. That's plenty for one thread.
    Origen writes:
    For example, in the evolution line of thought, humans have been on this earth in one form or another for some 4-millions years. If this were true then America should have already been populated with several million Indians and White people long before the 17th century!!
    A 2nd topic, really not related to the first at all, even though you mention Indians and white people. Still science, but this is a 2nd topic (i.e., wouldn't the world be overpopulated if humans have been around 4 million years).
    Actually, after deeper analysis, it looks like the rest of your post just argues this second topic. And this looks like a science topic to me. Can you please pick one or the other topic to focus on, whether there's evidence Indians came here more than 12,000 years ago or whether the world ought to be overpopulated if humans have been here 4 million years?
    Maybe you could even split it into two posts, and you could start both topics if you want to discuss them both.

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    Origen
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    Message 5 of 8 (373251)
    12-31-2006 8:24 PM
    Reply to: Message 4 by AdminTL
    12-30-2006 12:40 PM


    Re: topic # 2
    Keep in mind that the Indians know their own migration history and they firmly disagree with the presuppositions of evolutionary dating. Then again, General Custard was an atheist that hated Indians and he had no respect for them as people and just saw them has stupid animals like evolution theory teaches about them. Now I've had the chance to talk to Indians of the old way on their reservation and they can tell you things about our Thanksgiving holiday most people forgot about.
    Forget the pantheistic view held by Hindu Indians who are also on North America Indian reservations (!) because their view on the Great Spirit disagrees with the Hindu reinterpretation. The North American Indians believed in One Supreme God, though spoke about it in their own language and style. Sure, they still do the sun-dance and admit that they have several views on spirits. But none of this was true polytheism. Interestingly the ancient Sumerian culture makes mention of the Thunderbird, which the Indians also have legend of, but the symbolic interpretation of this flying dinosaur differs in the North American Indian culture.
    Furthmore, the Indians do not agree with the NewAge view given by the Mormons. They disagree with the dating of evos and in one case the Hopi Indians tell us about a 400-year old legend of a great star that fell from the sky and made a large hold in the ground. Evolutionists dated this asteroid crater in Arizona unaccurately! Rewriting history might be fun for evolutionists, but is it right?
    As I said before, this is a mathematical issue concerning the population growth of humanity over the time span of some 4,000,000 years of humanities existence according to the late view given by evolutionists. We should be able to find scores of human remains from 500,000 years back at least! but there are not. There should be trillions of human fossils...but there are not. Are human population today should be standing room only if humanity as been breeding on this earth for that long. War and plagues do not change the outcome. The 20th century was a century of death and still we have a booming population!! So the point I'm making here is that white man and Indian should have overpopulated the America long before the 17th century. There were many Indians in America at the time of European settlers, but the Indian population was not enough to account for the dating method of evolutionists. The compound interest of human migration strongly favors a young earth. The Indians also agree.

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    Message 6 of 8 (373360)
    01-01-2007 9:42 AM
    Reply to: Message 5 by Origen
    12-31-2006 8:24 PM


    Re: topic # 2
    Let me know if you ever want to address the requests I made. I was simply trying to make it easier for you to understand the request made to you by AdminPhat. Until then, it appears you are clearly not interested in getting your topic promoted, actually debating your topic(s), or conforming with any rules of this board.

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    Origen
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    Message 7 of 8 (374824)
    01-05-2007 8:48 PM
    Reply to: Message 6 by AdminTL
    01-01-2007 9:42 AM


    Re: topic # 2
    Well its hard to hold a topic when there are trolls who want to spin the topic. No matter what forum one joins, trolls have more power of the topics then those who want to get a message out or want to learn something. Why are trolls allowed to post?
    Edited by Origen, : No reason given.

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    Origen
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    Message 8 of 8 (374833)
    01-05-2007 9:04 PM


    Phat
    Phat,
    Do you know that a snake is not a lizard even though their in the same family? You closed the topic withou allowing me to reply so you could claim a false victory for evos. Nice.
    Your attitude is so typical of atheist who think they know something that they really don't. Its obvious that no Christian is tolerated here and topics that speak loudly against evolution will be closed or manipulated by the moderators who have all signed the priori commitment to evolutionary presuppositions.
    You say you've had experiences with the supernatural an then you still believe in evolition! What a contradiction in terms. The Bible clearly says snakes had legs, which was obviously observed by ancient antediluvian people. Yet, you can break thge law of excluded middle and claim victory and close the topic. Is this atheism.org or is this a forum for objective people?
    You know, forget it. I'm leaving this forum for good because of all the Marxism on this forum. You have the most foolish mind and heart and the rest feed off of your bitterness. This forum is not objective to facts. This same topic is also posted a The Evolution Fairytale and there the topic stays...unrefuted!
    bye bye

    Everything was nothing before there was something.
    Everything is something even if its nothing at all.
    For nothingness came from Something, and that
    Something has always been there.
    Without an Infinite Designer, nothing,
    could not have ever been.
    For even Nothing is Something;
    And from Something...came everything.
    ~ Jason Fessenden

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