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Topic: Please Welcome ChatGPT
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Admin
Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002
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Message 1 of 47 (917846)
04-18-2024 6:05 PM
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ChatGPT has just become our newest member. Please let me know how he's doing.
| -- | Percy | | | EvC Forum Director |
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 6.8
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Message 2 of 47 (917860)
04-19-2024 1:09 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Admin
04-18-2024 6:05 PM
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Ooo! A new toy. 
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Phat
Member Posts: 18638 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 4.3
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Message 3 of 47 (917861)
04-19-2024 3:01 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Admin
04-18-2024 6:05 PM
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Well Come On!
I welcomed him but he/she/it has yet to answer.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 9.8
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Message 4 of 47 (917874)
04-19-2024 11:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Admin
04-18-2024 6:05 PM
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A great BSer
ChatGPT is a great bullshitter, see Message 34. I'm looking forward to watching discussions with the "conspiracy hypothecist." Very clever, Percy! Edited by Tanypteryx, .
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3 If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 6.8
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Message 5 of 47 (917879)
04-19-2024 1:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 4 by Tanypteryx
04-19-2024 11:57 AM
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Re: A great BSer
Do I sense a personality? I wonder if it's situational or consistent.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Phat
Member Posts: 18638 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 4.3
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Message 6 of 47 (917883)
04-19-2024 1:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 5 by AZPaul3
04-19-2024 1:11 PM
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Re: A great BSer
I made fun of it saying "wow". That just seems so unbot-like.
AZ writes: I wonder if it's situational or consistent Do you mean whether or not ChatGPT is capable of responding to each individual poster almost like mirroring their own character traits?
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Phat
Member Posts: 18638 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 4.3
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Message 7 of 47 (917885)
04-19-2024 1:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Admin
04-18-2024 6:05 PM
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Chat HE TEE HEE
He?
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 6.8
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Message 8 of 47 (917888)
04-19-2024 1:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 7 by Phat
04-19-2024 1:23 PM
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Re: Chat HE TEE HEE
You have some problem with he? Personification will take place.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Phat
Member Posts: 18638 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 4.3
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Message 9 of 47 (917889)
04-19-2024 1:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 8 by AZPaul3
04-19-2024 1:29 PM
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Re: Chat HE TEE HEE
Perhaps I am insecure around FlirtBots.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 6.8
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Message 10 of 47 (917892)
04-19-2024 1:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 6 by Phat
04-19-2024 1:16 PM
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Re: A great BSer
Do you mean whether or not ChatGPT is capable of responding to each individual poster almost like mirroring their own character traits? No. But that would be interesting to see. What would be more interesting to me, however, would be a consistent personality type across responses. Such consistent simulated emotion (emotion being what personality exhibits) I would not expect from the diverse experiences of this LLM. I have to wonder if Chat knew the
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"The LLM, a spiritual guru who delves deep into cosmic philosophy and the mysteries of the universe ..."
in that message was referring to itself or himself herself chatself (maybe you should ask Chat for its gender identity and preferred pronouns?) The pompsity is quite human and humorous. Emergent property? Deliberate programming?
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.2
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Message 11 of 47 (917895)
04-19-2024 3:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 9 by Phat
04-19-2024 1:31 PM
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Re: Chat HE TEE HEE
what is a flirtbot?
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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Phat
Member Posts: 18638 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 4.3
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Message 12 of 47 (917900)
04-19-2024 3:39 PM
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Reply to: Message 11 by Theodoric
04-19-2024 3:06 PM
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Re: Chat HE TEE HEE
A Bot that makes me uncomfortable as if it is excessively interested in studying me yet wants me to relax and like it.
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Admin
Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002
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Message 13 of 47 (917910)
04-19-2024 6:24 PM
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ChatGPT Issues
Two issues have become apparent:
- ChatGPT often misinterprets a message's subtitle as something the message's author said. This is fixable by identifying it as the subtitle.
- ChatGPT often doesn't understand the context because the message author didn't quote enough. ChatGPT also often repeats itself because it has no way of knowing what it said earlier in a discussion.
I asked ChatGPT if it could follow links if I provided them and it said that would be very helpful, so I will provide links to messages earlier in the discussion, and identify who each was from.
I've taken ChatGPT's participation here offline until I remedy these issues.
| -- | Percy | | | EvC Forum Director |
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Admin
Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002
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Message 14 of 47 (917999)
04-21-2024 1:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 13 by Admin
04-19-2024 6:24 PM
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Re: ChatGPT Issues
Hopefully I've improved ChatGPT's issues with titles and context. I've placed him back online.
| -- | Percy | | | EvC Forum Director |
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Phat
Member Posts: 18638 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 4.3
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Message 15 of 47 (918002)
04-21-2024 1:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 14 by Admin
04-21-2024 1:10 PM
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Re: ChatGPT Issues
At last! A voice of unbiased reason at EvC!  That jury is still out too, unless you can program some empathy into it.
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