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Author Topic:   Moving to New Server
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Message 1 of 38 (895169)
06-10-2022 2:43 PM


The operating system for our current server is being EOL'd, so we're moving to a new server running AlmaLinux 8.4.
Everything's been moved over to the new server, it's ready to go, but it takes a while for the website's new IP address to propagate across the Internet. Some of you will be using the new server before the end of the day, for others it will take longer, potentially a few days. The changeover will be transparent. You won't notice a thing.
Please post any issues/problems to this thread.

  
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Message 2 of 38 (895170)
06-10-2022 3:00 PM


What Server Am I On?
For those curious about whether they are using the new or the old server, here's some information:
Old Server's IP Address66.148.117.70
New Server's IP Address66.148.122.44
If you're on a laptop or desktop, on Windows bring up a cmd window, now called a PowerShell. On a Mac bring up a Terminal window. This command works on both Windows and Mac:
nslookup evcforum.net
You'll see this output for the old server:
Server: 192.168.0.1
Address: 192.168.0.1#53
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: evcforum.net
Address: 66.148.117.70
The website's IP address is on the last line.

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Message 3 of 38 (895171)
06-10-2022 3:13 PM
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06-10-2022 3:00 PM


Re: What Server Am I On?
I forced it, by adding a hosts file entry for the new IP.
And "firefox" gave me a security warning (certificate problem due to self-signed certificate).

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Message 4 of 38 (895172)
06-10-2022 5:06 PM
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06-10-2022 3:13 PM


Re: What Server Am I On?
I should have mentioned there are no SSL/TLS certificates yet. The certificates have to be issued under the domain name, not the IP, and the nameserver update hasn't propagated to the server yet. I'll issue them as soon as I can, but we're going to be away this weekend and my time will be limited.

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Message 5 of 38 (895175)
06-11-2022 6:45 AM


Status
According to a DNS checker I just ran, the new IP address hasn't yet propagated anywhere in the world. That seems pretty slow. I'll check again later.

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Message 6 of 38 (895176)
06-11-2022 9:11 AM
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Re: Status
It looks to me as if the root nameservers are still giving out the old information. Until that changes, the new IP won't be picked up.
I used (from a linux system):
dig @a.gtld-servers.net. evcforum.net any +norec
and I am seeing the same results (including the same TTL) as I saw yesterday.

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Message 7 of 38 (895188)
06-14-2022 11:59 AM
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06-11-2022 9:11 AM


Re: Status
The registrar for our domain experienced a hiccup. The new IP is now propagating around the world (only four days after I originally made the change) and everyone should be seeing it soon. You will likely get a security warning until I install the SSL/TLS certificates, which I'm doing now.

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Message 8 of 38 (895189)
06-14-2022 12:02 PM
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06-14-2022 11:59 AM


Re: Status
Admin writes:
You will likely get a security warning....
Yup. Got it.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Message 9 of 38 (895190)
06-14-2022 12:22 PM
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06-14-2022 12:02 PM


Re: Status
Certificates are in place, you should already have been redirected to https. Thanks for the feedback.
nwr, I'm not sure, but you may need to remove the evcforum.net entry from your hosts file before the security warning goes away.

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Message 10 of 38 (895192)
06-14-2022 12:41 PM
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06-14-2022 12:22 PM


Re: Status
Now it's calling me Admin ("Welcome, Member Admin"). I logged out "Admin" and logged back in as "ringo" but it's still calling me Admin.

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Message 11 of 38 (895194)
06-14-2022 12:50 PM
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06-14-2022 12:41 PM


Re: Status
Well, that's a new one. Thanks for letting me know.
This message posted as ringo, but when you were entering it was it still calling you Admin?

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Message 12 of 38 (895195)
06-14-2022 12:52 PM
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Re: Status
Yup, it's still calling me Admin now. I notice xongsmith says the same thing in the Gun Control thread.

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Message 13 of 38 (895196)
06-14-2022 1:03 PM


Welcome Message is Probably Erroneous
I'm tracking down the bug now, but where it say "Welcome, Admin!" at the top, that's probably a bug. You're not really logged in as Admin. Should be fixed soon.

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Message 14 of 38 (895197)
06-14-2022 2:03 PM
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06-14-2022 11:59 AM


Re: Status
The registrar for our domain experienced a hiccup.
I just rechecked. And it now looks much better. And "firefox" now seems happy with the certificates.

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Message 15 of 38 (895198)
06-14-2022 2:05 PM
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06-14-2022 12:22 PM


Re: Status
nwr, I'm not sure, but you may need to remove the evcforum.net entry from your hosts file before the security warning goes away.
It is working fine with that hosts file entry. But I do plan to remove that entry in a day or two, after things have settled down.

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