2024 hints and (developing) indicators. Election thread.

It is way early, but there has been some polling.Biden has a 43.7% approval rating and 51% disapproval rating, based on the 538 site's average.Trump is at 41.4% average approval and 53% disapproval.(I very much hope Trump does not run, as I support Rand Paul. He is the only Republican candidate I would vote for, unless Democrats are stupid enough to pick a 2016-type warmonger)(I might be more inclined to support other Republicans if Democrats end up developing the dangerous anti-free speech angle into a full-blown assault. I do not know enough about the Democratic positioning yet, and I hope this Jan 6/ Facebook stuff is just a short lived technique that is only going to be used in the feud against Trump)There have been early polls taken, in battleground states, which show Trump winning all 5. It also polled support for Biden's position, on 10 key issues, verses Trump's position. It seems Trump scored a knockout, on all 10 issues, in all 5 states, but the poll was an internal Trump-funded poll. 538 got the results.(438 is Nate Silvers site)

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FRIGHTENING AS HELL!!!
Trump should be losing everywhere 78-12ishVote BLUE, BLUE, BLUE. Vote the Vicious, Cruel Stupids out.

December 2021Hispanic voters are split 37 to 37 on who they plan to vote for in the 2022 midterms.In 2024, Trump vs. Biden equals a 44-43 race among Hispanic voters.Imagine a Rand Paul verses Biden race:Paul would smash him ( I don't dislike Biden, and I admire him for pulling out of Afghanistan)

It's amusing speculation, but three years before the election how good is anyone's crystal ball?The number of things that could happen between now and then . . .Heck, the number of things that have happened already, from rising COVID-19 infection rates to the Afghanistan debacle to V.P. Harris behaving like a befuddled teen, to the Manchin-Sinema-Pelosi-Ocasio-Cortez-Omar-Schumer circular firing squad . . .Imagine more stuff like that happening, or, on the other hand, equivalent stuff happening to the prospective nominees (Republican or primary challengers from the Democrat party) Biden may be facing.

We don't know, do we?(Nobody in the USA is asking them, sadly)So let's get the hell out of THEIR country.They can decide whether something is wrong or right, and they can use their own sliding scale - a relatively less distorted/unbalanced sliding scale.

Nevada could be interesting because exit polls showed Trump won the Hispanic male vote verses Biden.Trump only lost by 2%, in Nevada, in both 2016 and 2020The Democratic incumbent is defending against a young man named Adam Laxalt.I remember watching the hoard of moderate Republicans, on CNN, in 2008, lament the right wing turn of the party. There was disgust, at the hateful turn in politics.There was a frequent guest, Michelle Laxalt, who smiled and talked about her late moderate father, the former Nevada Senator Pete Laxalt.In 2013, she released information about her son, Adam. He was in his mid-20s. She said she slept with long-serving New Mexico Senator Pete Dominici, and she got impregnated. He offered to pay child support, but she preferred the relationship to be kept secret. She refused the support.Now Adam has been a statewide elected official and he is running to defeat the Democratic incumbent Senator.This is a major race to watch. Especially the Hispanic vote.(Polls show that the Republican party has the edge in the Senate race, but it is early. The Democratic incumbent is trailing Laxalt)Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.

and LNA fails to mention Cortez Masto by her name, the woman incumbent Laxalt is up against:https://thehill.com/...-leading-laxalt-by-4-points-in-nevadaVOTE BLUE! VOTE BLUE!! End the GOP nightmare that is strangling the country to death.The GOP has NEVER done anything good without Democrat help. All they ever do is cut taxes for the rich and pass along the costs of running the government to the working poor. Fuck them. A bunch of sadistic racists. They stink 12 thousand times as bad as the Democrats, LNA - 12 thousand times worse.

Laxalt is certainly a poster child for the Grand Old Party of Family Values and Morality.

Cubans support it at a 54% rate, and Puerto Ricans are at 45% supportBoth groups are from a class of Hispanic-ethnic people that are either born U.S. citizens or will have legal residence in the USA if they "escape" (from Cuba) & arrive here.Selfish, indeed, but do note that only 30%, of an ethic group that is 19% of the population, support the wall that all too many white Democrats disgracefully supported.Tear down this (racist) wall, Mr. Biden!(And where is your support for "millions more" immigrants per year? Like you said during the campaign, in 2020?)(You look like somebody who will loose this white man's vote. Honestly)Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.

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So 2 big Democratic constituencies strongly oppose the wall.33% of the nation is either black or Hispanic.Democrats better not take human beings as some sort of "grant" at the ballot box.

Oh, I think we're already out of Afghanistan, aren't we?

Only the American people get to decide. Sarah.RNC national chairman, Michael Steel, went against the grain of his (fascist controlled) party, around 2009, and told Republicans to back away from supporting the Afghanistan conflict. It was shocking. He attempted to urge Republicans to make it the "Democratic (party) war".The ultra-fascist wing (then, the dominant position) went ballistic.Liz Cheney and Wiliam Kristol went for Steel's head.Just like they went after Steel, in 2006, when he attacked his white Democratic Senate opponent, Ben Cardin (the eventual winner, despite Steel taking 30% of the black vote) for his anti-crack cocaine votes.Ben Cardin is a good, decent, man and he respected me when I called his office (many times), but he opposed the Iran nuclear deal. Michael Steel came to be a movement conservative against the "war party" - Democrats today.Governor Joe Manchin (D-WV) won 70% of the vote in his 2008 reelection race, then Robert Byrd died. Manchin had a tough race to win the U.S. Senate Special election seat, in 2010. Democrats get about 25% of the vote in Presidential elections, on his state. Hillary Clinton got 26%. Manchin had a slight 5% lead against a Republican, according to the polls. Democrats got clobbered.Manchin ran an anti-war, pro labor ( truely pro worker, in policy & rhetoric) campaign.He won 54% of the vote, while Republicans gained 60 house seats w/ 6 Senate seats.Make the case, and you might just win the race, even in tough times.