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Jon
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Message 1 of 29 (0)
02-13-2012 10:13 AM


Can we get rid of this? It's annoying to read messages full of ****.

Love your enemies!

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Message 2 of 29 (652294)
02-13-2012 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jon
02-13-2012 10:13 AM


Darth Percy
These are not the words you are looking for, move along.

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jar
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Message 3 of 29 (0)
02-13-2012 12:30 PM


I favor censorship.
Mark Twain writes:
Once I talked to the inmates of an insane asylum in Hartford. I have talked to idiots a thousand times, but only once to the insane...
Mark Twain writes:
In the first place God made idiots. This was for practice. Then he made School Boards.
Mark Twain writes:
We are all erring creatures, and mainly idiots, but God made us so and it is dangerous to criticise.
Mark Twain writes:
His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere.
Mark Twain writes:
...ignorant as the unborne babe! ignorant as unborn twins!
Mark Twain writes:
[He] was endowed with a stupidity which by the least little stretch would go around the globe four times and tie.
Mark Twain writes:
...there are some things that can beat smartness and foresight. Awkwardness and stupidity can. The best swordsman in the world doesn't need to fear the second best swordsman in the world; no, the person for him to be afraid of is some ignorant antagonist who has never had a sword in his hand before; he doesn't do the thing he ought to do, and so the expert isn't prepared for him.
Those that handle language well and precisely must be handicapped in order that those who are incapable of either can feel good about themselves.
Edited by jar, : absooolutely appalin stupid spallin

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 4 of 29 (652332)
02-13-2012 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by jar
02-13-2012 12:30 PM


Re: I favor vensorship.
I hadn't realised that Mark Twain was such a purveyor of disgusting smut.

If I were you
And I wish that I were you
All the things I'd do
To make myself turn blue

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Message 5 of 29 (652294)
02-13-2012 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jon
02-13-2012 10:13 AM


Whose messages are you talking about?

--Percy
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Jon
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Message 6 of 29 (652359)
02-13-2012 2:35 PM
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02-13-2012 2:25 PM


Whose messages are you talking about?
Jar's in particular. I mean I cannot even read his quotes without using the 'peek' feature.
All ethics and philosophy aside, I just find it annoying. It certainly makes 'understanding through discussion' a lot more difficult.
Jon

Love your enemies!

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Message 7 of 29 (652362)
02-13-2012 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Jon
02-13-2012 2:35 PM


Yeah, I know, I feel the same way, so I'm sort of torn in two directions because I do need an economical way to put some moderation pressure on those who are a little bit too free with their appellations. I hoped that assigning censored words on single individuals would usually be a temporary measure, but Jar and I had a conversation, and we were not able to find common ground.
Edited by Admin, : Grammar.

--Percy
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Message 8 of 29 (652332)
02-13-2012 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by jar
02-13-2012 12:30 PM


Censoring Insensibility
Those that handle language well and precisely would find a way to have it so that even asterisks wouldn't show up in their posts.
People don't need to be constantly reminded that their views and beliefs are "ignorant" or "stupid". They need to know why, and/or be shown other, perhaps more descriptive vocabulary as to their limitations. Perhaps some of us need to have it explained why our culture is not up to snuff, or why we will fail.

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Message 9 of 29 (652379)
02-13-2012 4:17 PM
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02-13-2012 3:48 PM


I hoped that assigning censored words on single individuals would usually be a temporary measure, but Jar and I had a conversation, and we were not able to find common ground.
So what's the point of it, if it's not applying any pressure?
You tried it, it didn't work. Isn't it the time to stop?

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Message 10 of 29 (652387)
02-13-2012 4:18 PM
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02-13-2012 4:13 PM


Re: Censoring Insensibility
Sometimes, the words "insane," "ignorant," and "stupid" are precisely the words that NEED to be used.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 11 of 29 (652389)
02-13-2012 4:29 PM
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02-13-2012 4:17 PM


*******
frog writes:
So what's the point of it, if it's not applying any pressure?
Its part of the software.

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jar
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Message 12 of 29 (652379)
02-13-2012 4:59 PM
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02-13-2012 3:48 PM


Yet you cannot find a single instance when I have ever called a member ignorant or stupid or even an idiot.
I try very hard to attack the idea and topic, not the person.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 13 of 29 (652389)
02-13-2012 5:04 PM
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02-13-2012 4:17 PM


crashfrog writes:
You tried it, it didn't work. Isn't it the time to stop?
The goal was to provide an economical way to enforce rule 10. It's working fine.
My hope was that it would not need to be permanent for any individual because seeing asterisks would be an effective deterrent. For some individuals this hope proved out, for others not.

--Percy
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Message 14 of 29 (652390)
02-13-2012 5:05 PM
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02-13-2012 4:18 PM


Re: Censoring Insensibility
subbie writes:
Sometimes, the words "insane," "ignorant," and "stupid" are precisely the words that NEED to be used.
Yes, I agree, sometimes they are.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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jar
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Message 15 of 29 (652387)
02-13-2012 5:09 PM
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02-13-2012 4:13 PM


Re: Censoring Insensibility
Ah, so in the post to which you are replying you might notice I used none of those words.
Are you perhaps saying that I have not explained over and over why an idea might fall into such categories?
If someone persists in posting material that falls into those categories should it not be pointed out?
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with the level of censorship at EvC and I can expand my vocabulary to work around the restrictions, but that would simply make more work for Percy and I do not want to cause him even more problems.
Mark Twain writes:
If Christ were here there is one thing he would not be--a Christian.
Mark Twain writes:
One can deliver a satire with telling force through the insidious medium of a travesty, if he is careful not to overwhelm the satire with the extraneous interest of the travesty.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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