Anti-Science bill in Indiana.....

link to Arstechnica where I lifted these quotes fromLink to bill itself

Thread copied here from the Anti-Science bill in Indiana..... thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.

More anti-science nonsense.Now, in order to teach scientific theories of origins a teacher in Indiana also has to teach the creation myths of a variety of religions.That's sure to run into some problems with the Lemon test, eh?What a joke!Creationists just don't seem to learn. Wonder which school district will be first to cough up a million or so dollars for a court case dumping this legislation into the sewer where it belongs.

The worst part? The inclusion of Scientology. IT'S NOT EVEN A RELIGION! It's a fucking business model for crying out loud!

I hope that with the introduction of such blatant religious interference in science classes that the majority of scientists, who have largely ignored creationism, will kick up a stink.I hope that huge numbers of people start focussing on ID/creationism, repeatedly showing what a pile of bollocks it is.
I have already noticed a gradual increase in anti-ID newspaper articles and documentaries, but I would rather see ID die in a massive shit-storm.

Perhaps on that side of the pond. However, as you've probably noticed on this side, we've got people running for POTUS touting their superstitious nonsense as a badge of honor...... We're nowhere near "kick arse" level yet....

Then America could drift into a Dark Age.
Perhaps the Big Pharma's will have enough influence to stop this from happening.Else we could have Americans arriving in the UK as refugees from religious persecution...

The only thing the rest of the world need fear is a US where the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of the government believe that Armageddon is inevitable and a good thing.Oh, and a Great Power slipping into a Dark Age and pulling a Samson.

Just don't elect Buzsaw president, because he'd probably nuke the middle-east to fulfil one of his bloody prophecies.

Not just with the Lemon Test. I'm sure that all those fundamentalist Christian parents are just dying to have their children actually learn about other religions. Remember, we're talking about a religion that depends utterly on maintaining ignorance.

*buzzsaw with his hand on THE BUTTON:* "Tell me When Lord Tell me when, LET ME BE YOUR SERVANT LORD!!!

My senator likes to send out surveys asking about our views on various issues like should churches pay property taxes, etc.Since my senator voted for SB 89, I'm assuming his survey got more yeses or don't cares than no's. I answered no, BTW.Since the bill is now headed for the House, I will write a letter to my representative to ask him not to pass the bill. I will also write a letter to our Governor to encourage him not to pass the bill into law.The bill says "may", but that is only for the school system, not the student. As I read it, if the school system decides to teach it then the student must participate. I don't see that parents or students have the option to not learn about religion or other religions.So any suggestions for wording a very concise and convincing letter to try and show them that SB89 is not a good idea?Should I send the same letter to both politicians?Graphics courtesy of Free SB 89 GraphicsEdited by purpledawn, : Added link

But this bill has nothing to do with learning about other religions. It has to do with origins of life and incorporating different religious beliefs about that subject. Where is the origins of life subject typically taught as it stands? In science class.

Origins of life, when taught in K-12 science classes typically is about 1-2 pages in a 9th grade biology book. There just isn't that much that anyone thinks needs to be said about the topic to kids of that age. The real problem is that even talking about the origin of species is enough to cause a conflict with what creationists think ought to be taught.And essentially no creationist K-12 parents are interested in having their child subject to a comparative religion course in which Genesis gets compared to that stories about Gaia giving birth to the sky which then coupled with mom to birth the Titans.After all, the true fight is with evolution and evolution would not belong in a comparative religion course.

Right. How does that differ from what I said? Even more perplexing is that I received a jeer from DA who never does that sort of thing.....All I was saying was in response to PD and her comment about children and/or parents choosing whether or not to learn about different religions. I was pointing out that it's not that simple and that this bill is not about learning about different religions.If I am mistaken about something here, I would much appreciate if someone could clear up any confusion.Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.