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Dawn Bertot
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10-04-2010 2:58 AM


Every position, teaching, ideology, study concerning physical realities, in this instance, the physical world and its makeup, hav three basic tenets. The evidence that suggests what it is presently, what that evidence suggests abouts its origins and the conclusions as to what it will be or become, once it has exhausted its resources.
No position that deals withthe physical world can avoid these logical conclusions and assumptions.
The answer to your question is this Larni. Creation science suggests and indicates designby way observation and experimentation, STRICLY from the available evidence. Yet this is not good enough for the scientific method, because it is required to produce a designer or it suggests that we have not seen God designing anything.
Yet in the scientific method no requirement is made for the initiation source of the physical realities, or present physical evidence that leads one to the conclusion of the TOE. Even if itis implied or suggested that things have always existed, one would need to provide evidence of the same nature that is required of the theory of design to produce a designer.
Hence Larni, you have a requirement for the design camp that one does nto have for themeself.
Would this be acceptable as a start for the New thread and the area you suggested?
Dawn Bertot

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Hi Dawn Bertot,
You're singling out the theory of evolution for not addressing "the initiation source of the physical realities," but not explaining why. The origin of the universe is a topic of cosmology, so you need to make clear why biology needs to address matters of cosmology while other fields like geology and chemistry do not.

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10-07-2010 8:57 AM
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You're singling out the theory of evolution for not addressing "the initiation source of the physical realities," but not explaining why. The origin of the universe is a topic of cosmology, so you need to make clear why biology needs to address matters of cosmology while other fields like geology and chemistry do not.
No No I am not singling out anybody. I am singling out the IDEA that one Position, regardless of what or who it is, is required o produce this or that, but They (whoever they are) are not
If it needs to be discussed in terms of Cosmology that is fine
But of course you realize this will envoke Space Ghost, ha ha
Its fine whereever you wish to put it
Dawn Bertot

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Dawn Bertot writes:
Its fine whereever you wish to put it
This isn't an acceptable thread proposal as yet.
ID postulates that the diversity of life we see today was produced by an intelligent designer, and further that the world contains evidence of design and for an intelligent designer. Therefore it is incumbent upon ID to produce that evidence.
Evolution postulates that the diversity of life we see today was produced by random mutation and natural selection, and further that the world contains evidence of random mutation and natural selection. Therefore it is incumbent upon evolution to produce that evidence.
Evolution does not postulate anything about the origin of the universe. If you think it should and that the fact that it does not is a significant flaw then write an opening post that outlines why you think so.

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10-21-2010 2:16 AM


Re:untitledas of yet
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10-21-2010 5:04 AM
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10-21-2010 6:00 AM


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Re: Re:untitledas of yet
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