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Vlace
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10-01-2010 1:57 PM


Not exactly sure what to say here. But could we put up a forum in the Intelligent Design board on fractal math because fractal math definately supports it? This math is so crazy to watch and see happen. Pretty much you take a thing in nature and zoom in on one part of it. You will see that the image appears again and again as you keep on zooming in indefinately.
Like this math just blew us out of the water. I was part of a research team on this that made a movie and people on the team couldn't believe what they were seeing and they just left half way through the research and movie. So we were like, "Umm... They couldn't believe this so they left..." Haha.
We would enter in a formula into a computer and expect to get random lines to appear. But we got pictures. Like in HD. And we got a tree. and then we zoomed in and got another tree but different..., and then we would change the formula a little and we would get a cloud... But all the clouds were different.
We interviewed Hawkins and he said that if we unlocked this math then we would be able to control the universe. But he couldn't except it. Haha. It was so funny.
Anyways... If we could do this that would be great.
Thank you
-Vlace

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10-01-2010 5:24 PM


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10-01-2010 5:25 PM
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10-01-2010 1:57 PM


I moved this thread to a public forum so other members can comment on your suggestion.

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Message 4 of 11 (584407)
10-01-2010 5:45 PM
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10-01-2010 1:57 PM


There's no reason for an entirely new forum. However, I think you'd find plenty of interest if you were to propose a new thread about Intelligent Design and fractal mathematics. I know I'd certainly participate - I'd love to see exactly why you believe that fractal math supports the hypothesis of an intelligent designer.

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Message 5 of 11 (584408)
10-01-2010 5:47 PM
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10-01-2010 1:57 PM


This math is so crazy to watch and see happen. Pretty much you take a thing in nature and zoom in on one part of it. You will see that the image appears again and again as you keep on zooming in indefinately.
Here's an example:
He's a link to wiki article:
Mandelbrot set - Wikipedia
It goes throught the explanation and some of the maths.
But could we put up a forum in the Intelligent Design board on fractal math because fractal math definately supports it?
How does this support ID?
I was part of a research team
...
We interviewed Hawkins

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Message 6 of 11 (584409)
10-01-2010 5:49 PM
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10-01-2010 1:57 PM


The mathematician Kronecker famously said "God gave us the natural numbers; all else is the work of man."
Personally, I think Kronecker gave God too much credit.
While there are surely disagreements as to how much of mathematics is natural and how much is a human construct, most mathematicians would agree that human construction has a substantial involvement.
So you ask about fractal mathematics and intelligent design. I answer - of course that is intelligent design; it is design by intelligent humans (mathematicians). However, I fail to see that that connects it to the ID debates.

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Message 7 of 11 (584416)
10-01-2010 6:28 PM
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10-01-2010 5:47 PM


dude that video makes me want to smoke something

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Message 8 of 11 (584432)
10-01-2010 7:40 PM
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10-01-2010 1:57 PM


Pretty much you take a thing in nature and zoom in on one part of it. You will see that the image appears again and again as you keep on zooming in indefinately.
I assure you this isn't the case, five minutes with a microscope should disabuse you of this peculiar notion.
TTFN,
WK

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10-01-2010 10:07 PM
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10-01-2010 1:57 PM


Pretty much you take a thing in nature and zoom in on one part of it. You will see that the image appears again and again as you keep on zooming in indefinately.
Let me say this as politely as I can.
You, sir, with respect, are a stupid goddamned liar.
I was part of a research team on this that made a movie and people on the team couldn't believe what they were seeing and they just left half way through the research and movie. So we were like, "Umm... They couldn't believe this so they left..." Haha.
Let me say this as politely as I can.
You, sir, with respect, are a stupid goddamned liar.
We would enter in a formula into a computer and expect to get random lines to appear.
You stupid goddamned liar.
You have never done any research into mathematics, you stupid goddamned liar.
We interviewed Hawkins and he said that if we unlocked this math then we would be able to control the universe. But he couldn't except it. Haha. It was so funny.
Who is this "Hawkins" person?
You stupid goddamned liar.
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Message 10 of 11 (584459)
10-01-2010 10:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Vlace
10-01-2010 1:57 PM


Which Hawkins?
So Mr. Liar man, which Hawkins did you interview?
Couldn't be Sadie because she isn't real.
Couldn't be Screamin' Jay because he is dead.
Same with Hawkshaw and Walter Lincoln.
So maybe it was LaTroy or Jennifer. Oh can't be Jennifer because you said he.
Please let us know who it was and why what they think about fractals means a flying rip.
Oh Percy, thanks for the red meat.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 11 of 11 (584462)
10-01-2010 11:19 PM


Note To the Moderators
C'mon, you've got to give me this one.
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