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Author Topic:   AdminNosy Demoted?
NosyNed
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Posts: 8996
From: Canada
Joined: 04-04-2003


Message 1 of 7 (450768)
01-23-2008 4:25 PM


It's seems I must have finally atoned for my past sins since AdminNosy no longer has admin priveledges.
I have been logging on under NosyNed for more than a year and do not know my AdminNosy password. Today I show both IDs logged in but AdminNosy can't do adminny things.
Is this a bug, an inadvertant change or a reward?

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jar
Member (Idle past 394 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 2 of 7 (450769)
01-23-2008 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by NosyNed
01-23-2008 4:25 PM


Reward.
See here

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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RAZD
Member (Idle past 1405 days)
Posts: 20714
From: the other end of the sidewalk
Joined: 03-14-2004


Message 3 of 7 (450796)
01-23-2008 8:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by NosyNed
01-23-2008 4:25 PM


or a reward?
Congrats, I said perseverance pays.
Now you get to post more often.
Enjoy.

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3292 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 4 of 7 (450801)
01-23-2008 11:51 PM


Might as well post this right here.
For the record, I am officially freaked out at what happened today.

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cavediver
Member (Idle past 3644 days)
Posts: 4129
From: UK
Joined: 06-16-2005


Message 5 of 7 (450814)
01-24-2008 4:10 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Taz
01-23-2008 11:51 PM


Tell me about it - and there I was, thinking that 13 months after the last debacle, we were finally back to 'normal' with nwr's return...

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Adminnemooseus
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Posts: 3974
Joined: 09-26-2002


Message 6 of 7 (450817)
01-24-2008 5:30 AM


The situation is complex, but a few brief random comments
In the beginning evcforum was a place to discuss science. There were relatively small numbers of messages per day.
Things diversified to include such as the "Coffee House" and the various theological forums. Active topics per day and messages per day went way up.
During all this we had a number of admins doing an uneven job of covering things. That was all we could practically do. Being moderators wasn't that we were getting paid to work hard and cover every thing. And we pretty much operated in isolation of each other. You had to call them as you saw them, without the luxury of much consultation with the other admins.
Ideally, the membership should strive to be self moderating. But instead, we had too many members wanting to push the fringes of the guidelines and in general be uncooperative jerks.
I think many members think that being in the forum and posting messages is some sort of right and privilege. It's not. We are all merely guests at Percy's place.
I think one major problem is that the "General Discussion of Moderation Procedures" topics got way out of hand. Ideally, a member could post an issue there (as in, one message), and the various admins could consider the matter. But it got to be to much of a debate topic itself.
I think the various admins were too slow to issue suspensions. It should be, you knowingly do violations, or in general be a jerk, you get a suspension. No endless warnings which don't seem to work very well anyway. The forum moderation system should not attempt to be some sort of finely tuned legal system with all kinds of due process. Make it "behave or suffer the consequences".
In short, Percy/Admin has simplified the moderation system. For him, a kind of a "My way or the highway" system.
Please note the Admin quote at the end of my "signature".
Or something like that.
Adminnemooseus (ret.)
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Change "in" to "is" in the subtitle.

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Admin writes:
It really helps moderators figure out if a topic is disintegrating because of general misbehavior versus someone in particular if the originally non-misbehaving members kept it that way. When everyone is prickly and argumentative and off-topic and personal then it's just too difficult to tell. We have neither infinite time to untie the Gordian knot, nor the wisdom of Solomon.
There used to be a comedian who presented his ideas for a better world, and one of them was to arm everyone on the highway with little rubber dart guns. Every time you see a driver doing something stupid, you fire a little dart at his car. When a state trooper sees someone driving down the highway with a bunch of darts all over his car he pulls him over for being an idiot.
Please make it easy to tell you apart from the idiots. Source

  
petrophysics1
Inactive Member


Message 7 of 7 (450897)
01-24-2008 5:50 PM


A comment and suggestion
Percy,
Action taken was long overdue in my opinion. I would not have put up with 1/10th of what you have.
Have you considered that problems arise mostly in forums not related to the EvC debate? As a geologist I found this forum and decided to join because I found the lies, half truths, and omissions on creationist sites in regards to geology to be unbearable. This seemed like a good place to counter that misinformation. No one is going to find any oil and gas using "flood geology" and I really would like everyone to have a chance at being rich.
I did not join to see EVERY religious belief trashed or to see the truth of evolution and an old earth USED to forward a leftist political and social agenda.
I think you started this forum for very much the same reasons I joined. Perhaps you should consider which forums here contribute to your original intent and which don't, and get rid of the ones that don't.
Thank you for your time, and this forum.
Martin P. Granica
Boulder, Wyoming

  
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