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Godismyfather
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Message 1 of 40 (5249)
02-21-2002 7:07 PM


Why do people have sex before marriage? Not only is it a sin, you risk getting STD's and getting or making some one pregnant! There is NO SUCH THING AS SAFE SEX!!!!!!! They did a study a while ago in which they took a sperm and a AIDs virus and lined them up next to each other. They kept making the image bigger and bigger until the sperm was about a couple inches long and the virus was about the size of a pencil point! STD's wouldn't be so epidimical if everyone saved sex. It's worth the wait! God made it to be special! Think about when you ask or are asked to be married, what do you say? Oh, by the way, I have Genital Herpies and you'll probably get it too? How romantic. Save it!
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God Bless,
Victoria

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joz
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Message 2 of 40 (5252)
02-21-2002 7:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Godismyfather
02-21-2002 7:07 PM


Yeah.......
*he said in a slow sarcastic manner*

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mark24
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Message 3 of 40 (5258)
02-21-2002 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Godismyfather
02-21-2002 7:07 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Godismyfather:

Why do people have sex before marriage? Not only is it a sin, you risk getting STD's and getting or making some one pregnant! There is NO SUCH THING AS SAFE SEX!!!!!!!

Presumably all of this is true after marriage, as well.
The reason that non religious people aren't bothered by biblical "sins", is because there is no evidence of the divine nature of the bible. Ergo, no evidence that anything that God allegedly said is true. Ergo, sex before marriage is OK, until such time as evidence of biblical divine truth becomes available.
Use a condom.
quote:
Originally posted by Godismyfather:

They did a study a while ago in which they took a sperm and a AIDs virus and lined them up next to each other. They kept making the image bigger and bigger until the sperm was about a couple inches long and the virus was about the size of a pencil point! STD's wouldn't be so epidimical if everyone saved sex. It's worth the wait! God made it to be special! Think about when you ask or are asked to be married, what do you say? Oh, by the way, I have Genital Herpies and you'll probably get it too? How romantic. Save it!

Well, I'm 34, am unmarried, living in sin, & have yet to get a sniffle of an STD.
Mark
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joz
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Message 4 of 40 (5265)
02-21-2002 10:00 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by mark24
02-21-2002 7:40 PM


quote:
Originally posted by mark24:
Well, I'm 34, am unmarried, living in sin, & have yet to get a sniffle of an STD.
24 fairly wallowed in it up untill 3 years ago when i met my wife ...
Might have caught the flu once.....

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Godismyfather
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Message 5 of 40 (5302)
02-22-2002 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by mark24
02-21-2002 7:40 PM


You could have one and just not know it! Some have no symptoms! Some are there and just don't efect men (Clamydia). Be careful.
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God Bless,
Victoria

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mark24
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Message 6 of 40 (5303)
02-22-2002 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Godismyfather
02-22-2002 4:31 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Godismyfather:
You could have one and just not know it! Some have no symptoms! Some are there and just don't efect men (Clamydia). Be careful.

Then my other half would have presented with clamydia, but hasn't. Ergo, I don't have it.
Other than that, why would I worry about a "disease" that has no symptoms?
You've missed the point. It is entirely possible to enjoy sex before marriage without unnecassary risk.
Mark
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[This message has been edited by mark24, 02-22-2002]

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gene90
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Message 7 of 40 (5307)
02-22-2002 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Godismyfather
02-22-2002 4:31 PM


Victoria
I see that you mean well but I think this is a serious enough subject to be completely accurate about. Chlamydia can be asymptomatic, but women are less likely to have symptoms than men, though the life-threatening complications from the disease are usually pregnancy-related. Chlamydia infection rates in US adolescent females can be as high as 10%. Men are not screened as frequently as women. Public education and screenings are effective against the disease, most strains of chlamydia are curable.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/dstd/Fact_Sheets/chlamydia_facts.htm
I think philosophical considerations are more important in discussing this area than threats of STD's, though STD's are suprisingly common in the general population. I also need to point out that the United State's South, traditionally one of the most conservative and religious parts of the US, has the highest incidence of STD's.
There are some hypotheses for this going around but nobody really knows why.
http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats/2000SFSouth.htm
American STD cases
http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats/2000TablesNatSum.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats/2000NatOverview.htm
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Godismyfather
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Message 8 of 40 (5367)
02-23-2002 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by gene90
02-22-2002 4:59 PM


REAL-ly? Well, either my health teacher is wrong or you are, so I guess she is cause she never gave us websites to check out. Thanx.
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God Bless,
Victoria

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TrueCreation
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Message 9 of 40 (5495)
02-25-2002 8:01 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by gene90
02-22-2002 4:59 PM


"There are some hypotheses for this going around but nobody really knows why."
--I live in the South. And to put it as simple as possible, I think I know why, its a bit of a trend, start something somewhere and its going to scatter in your area. Besides most people down here never move or have lived here all their life.
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gene90
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Message 10 of 40 (5498)
02-25-2002 8:07 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by TrueCreation
02-25-2002 8:01 PM


I also live in the South. I think it's because of general poverty and the failure of the educational system to teach people about that sort of thing, instead they just tell everyone to be abstinent.

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joz
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Message 11 of 40 (5545)
02-26-2002 11:07 AM
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02-25-2002 8:07 PM


Not because everyone is going at it like bunnies in their trailers?
Sorry about that I must have watched a little bit too much Jerry Springer.....

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gene90
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Message 12 of 40 (5563)
02-26-2002 4:29 PM
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02-26-2002 11:07 AM


LOL, soaking up American culture like a sponge....

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bretheweb
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Message 13 of 40 (5570)
02-26-2002 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by joz
02-26-2002 11:07 AM


//Not because everyone is going at it like bunnies in their trailers?//
Nah, dude, its too hot to do it in the trailer since the AC died... thats why they got *extended* cab trucks!
On a side note.
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
How common is HPV?
In the United States, HPV is considered to be the most common sexually transmitted disease (STD). Some studies estimate that the majority of the sexually active population is exposed to at least one or more types of HPV - although most do not develop symptoms. Because HPV is so common and prevalent, a person does not need have to have a lot of sexual partners to come into contact with this virus.
http://www.ashastd.org/stdfaqs/hpv.html
I cant find the link now, but a few years back a friend of mine worked herself into a frenzy thinking she'd gotten this.
She found websites that indicated that as much as 70% of the population was infected with HPV.
Thankfully, I'm still a virgin...
Yea, right.
Inside my left elbow.
Sleep well.
brett
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Legend
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Message 14 of 40 (5616)
02-26-2002 9:53 PM


quote:
Why do people have sex before marriage?
Why not? You certainly provide no convincing reasons.
quote:
Not only is it a sin
Oh, wait, I'm sold. GAWD SEZ NO.
quote:
you risk getting STD's and getting or making some one pregnant!
While on the other hand there's no risk of unwanted pregnancy or disease while married.
Wait, no.
quote:
There is NO SUCH THING AS SAFE SEX!!!!!!!
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SAFE EATING!!!!!!
quote:
They did
Pronoun reference error. My AP English III teacher would eat you.
quote:
a study a while ago in which they took a sperm and a AIDs virus and lined them up next to each other.
Uh, so, what was "their" study studying? The effects of useless experiments? Or perhaps how to form a more inane and pointless anecdote?
quote:
They kept making the image bigger and bigger until the sperm was about a couple inches long and the virus was about the size of a pencil point!
Wow, you've proved that AIDS is tiny. Good job!
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STD's wouldn't be so epidimical if everyone saved sex.
Sexual disease would be reduced with less sex. Thanks, Stephen Hawking.
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It's worth the wait!
Why?
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God made it to be special!
No God ever made anything.
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Think about when you ask or are asked to be married, what do you say?
I'll say no. Marriage is not a useful institution to me.
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Oh, by the way, I have Genital Herpies and you'll probably get it too?
But only if you have sex with me outside of marriage?
quote:
How romantic.
Yes, the prospect of sex with a woman who has herpes is much better when I'm married.
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Save it!
Well, since you argued your case so effectively...
Bite me.

  
Peter
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Message 15 of 40 (6109)
03-04-2002 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Godismyfather
02-21-2002 7:07 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Godismyfather:

Why do people have sex before marriage?

Because sex emerged before marriage in human evolution
quote:
Originally posted by Godismyfather:

Not only is it a sin,

Could you point me to the bible chapter and verse(s) where this
is stated ?
Created Adam and Eve, and let them mate ... I don't recall anything
about him marrying them first.
There's a commandment about adultery, but that's to do with
going with other people's wives, not singles.
And since Mary Magdalen was a prosititute I guess Jesus didn't
really have a problem with the idea.
quote:
Originally posted by Godismyfather:

you risk getting STD's and getting or making some one pregnant!
There is NO SUCH THING AS SAFE SEX!!!!!!!

You risk getting run over by a bus everytime you cross a busy
city street ... doesn't have a real bearing on doing it in the
first place.
If we never did anything dangerous, we'd just stay indoors and
do nothing ... and even that can be dangerous (heart disease
etc.)
quote:
Originally posted by Godismyfather:
They did a study a while ago in which they took a sperm and a AIDs virus and lined them up next to each other. They kept making the image bigger and bigger until the sperm was about a couple inches long and the virus was about the size of a pencil point!

Oh.
quote:
Originally posted by Godismyfather:

STD's wouldn't be so epidimical if everyone saved sex.

Why ?
If you're a creationist then you have to accept that God not
only created STD's, he also infected some people with them
sometime after the Great Flood.
If that's the case then surely they serve some wider, mysterious
purpose all God's own.
quote:
Originally posted by Godismyfather:

It's worth the wait!
God made it to be special!
Think about when you ask or are asked to be married, what do you say?

Is that in the Bible ?
Why is sex any better when you're married as opposed to in
a long term relationship ?
quote:
Originally posted by Godismyfather:
Oh, by the way, I have Genital Herpies and you'll probably get it too? How romantic. Save it!

Caution about STD's is wise, likewise unwanted pregnancy.
Base your caution on known fact and NOT religous dogma though!!

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