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LudoRephaim
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Message 1 of 40 (453495)
02-02-2008 1:08 PM


Who do you think is the better big cat, lion or Tiger?
Which is your favorite, and why?
Which would dominate in a fight?
Which is the better predator and fighter?
Which will most likely survive the 21st century?
All subspecies, prehistoric and modern, extinct and otherwise should be considered.
Be courteous, civil, and logical and add any other big cat you would think is better than the above for any reason (My favorite is the Jaguar, but thatz just me.)

"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

  
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Message 2 of 40 (453544)
02-02-2008 9:34 PM


I don't think either of the cats are better, its a subjective question. I like lions better, for a few reasons:
1st) Unlike any of big cats, the lion posseses a tuft of hair at the end of its tail. The tuft of dark colored hair hides a "spur" of bone.
2nd) Unlike any of the other big cats, they live in a social matriarcal group called a pride.
3rd) On a clear night, a lions' roar can be heard 5 miles away.
These are just a few reasons.
Male Bengal Tigers measure 275--310 cm( including tail). Their weight ranges from 180 to 270 kilograms (400-594 pounds). lions are between 150--225 kg (330--500 lb) and his length is 170--250 cm (5 ft 7 in--8 ft 2 in).
Tigers are bigger than lions, but the size difference is negligble. Thus, size cannot determine this fight. (Take note I got these weights from an old encyclopedia, the lion weights are conservative while the tiger weights I think are exxagerated)
Tigers are slightly heavier and longer. Lions are taller at the shoulder. I have read, lions have a larger bite force and are more fast than tigers.
Here the studies are: http://i95.photobucket.com/...1/Errol100/TigersoftheSnow.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/Errol100/Picture2.jpg
I think its bullshit, if its true then the difference in bite force and speed is slight.
I also would like to say; male lions aren't lazy, when they are eschewed or ousted from their original pride, they become nomads. The hunt and scavenge frequently. Taking over a pride is extremely, hard. The male leaders of a pride are typically from 5-7 years old, in their prime. They come from other prides and stay as long as they can defend the territory. However, a male lion's or coalition's reign lasts on average of 2-3 years, at the average age of 8-10 years. Larger groups of males will have a longer tenure in the pride than a single male or smaller group.
After a lion loses its pride, it usually never takes over another one.
Tigers fight three times a year for territory, mating rights etc. It must contend with dholes, leopards and mugger crocodiles. In Siberia, it must also contend with brown bears. Tigers fight just a little less than lions. I think aggresion is individual specific; there are aggresive lions and equally aggresive tigers.
I think both cats will make it in the 21st century, although they are certainly doing better than the tiger. Rough estimates range from 30,000 to 100,000 individuals. Eastern and southern Africa have the largest lion populations, with the numbers dwindling in the western part of the continent.
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Message 3 of 40 (664655)
06-03-2012 10:50 PM


{Expert’s, Trainer’s, Tamer’s, Owner’s, Zoologist’s Opinion’s on Lion vs tiger’s}
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1.Tiger an lion Expert Dave hoover, said lions are the better fighter’s.
http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/...ae1a1c6b6b8_r.jpg
http://i853.photobucket.com/...champ/Hooverlionsvstigers.jpg
2.Indian Zooligist Jam sahib exploit’s bias cat enthusiasist Karish singe an witnesses 4 ocasian’s lion’s beat tiger’s an give’s his opinon on lion’s.
http://i917.photobucket.com/...JinenFordragon/pagetwoju9.jpg
3. Animal Trainer and Expert Louis Roth, favors the lion over the
tiger in a fight. In his book
http://www.worthpoint.com/.../uploads/2011/02/Louis-Roth.jpg
4. Animal Expert Alfred court, thinks the lion wins over the tiger in a fight[Book]
http://www.worthpoint.com/.../2011/02/Life-With-Big-Cats.jpg
5.Animal Trainer John Helliot, favors the lion over the tiger in a fight he’s the guy on the right hand side of clyde beatty who also had a lion kill a polar bear article.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/.../2071380105_d4b400547f.jpg
6.Animal Expert Dave Salmoni, says he’d give the edge to a lion in a
fight with a tiger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A64glNYb-NM
7.Animal Tamer Clyde Beatty, said lions will win 9/10 against tigers.
http://i277.photobucket.com/...2008/brentonlion/books-83.jpg
8.Animal enthusiast and poet Oliver Goldsmith, ranked the lion over the tiger.
http://www.scharlau.co.uk/....uk/prints/images/lions4701.jpg
The Works of Oliver Goldsmith: With an Account of His Life and Writings - Oliver Goldsmith - Google Books
9.Animal Expert an Tamer Courtney cooper, said lions usually win more
in tiger fights. In her book she state’s
LIONS"N"TIGERS"N"EVERYTHING 1924 By Courtney Riley Cooper.
Page 32, I like the tiger cat more than I like the lion cat.
Page 68, lions are "King Of Beasts"
Page 70, lion kills a tiger in a very brutal fight.
Page 78, Cooper says lion is "King Of Beasts" and a good father.
Pages 84-85, FEMALE tiger kills heavier MALE tiger defending her cubs.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/...keeper%2Band%2Bhis%2Banimals.jpg
10.Poet an painter an animal enthusiast Geroge Buffon, picked lions over tigers in a fight.
http://www.artprints.com/images/OWP/large/owp9316c.jpg
http://diogenesii.files.wordpress.com/...uffon_1707-1788.jpg
11. Big cat trainer Jim Chipperfeild support’s the lion in a fight with a tiger.
{Lion vs tiger Book}
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/...1O-3K-LtuL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/...erlionsuperiorfightingabi.jpg
12.Big cat trainer Edward. jewitt wheeler, say’s the lion is superior to the tiger. {Lion vs tiger Book}
http://i43.tower.com/...sabel-thomas-hardcover-cover-art.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/...erlionsuperiorfightingabi.jpg
13.Big cat tamer, Isac kaufman funk, agree;s lions are superior to tiger’s.
{Lion vs tiger Book}
http://i43.tower.com/...sabel-thomas-hardcover-cover-art.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/...erlionsuperiorfightingabi.jpg
14.Lion an tiger trainer, Willam seaver wood’s, say’s a lion would beat a tiger.
{Lion vs tiger Book}
http://i43.tower.com/...sabel-thomas-hardcover-cover-art.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/...erlionsuperiorfightingabi.jpg
15.Tiger an lion tamer Arther stimson Draper, says lion’s uaslly win against tiger’s.
{Lion vs tiger Book}
http://i43.tower.com/...sabel-thomas-hardcover-cover-art.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/...erlionsuperiorfightingabi.jpg
16.Brother of Isac kaufman funk, wilfred john funk agree’s lions are superior.
{Lion vs tiger Book}
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/...1O-3K-LtuL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/...erlionsuperiorfightingabi.jpg
17.Marco peter’s lion and tiger trainer say’s male tigers are afraid of male lion’s.
http://i853.photobucket.com/...mp/Lionusuallywhipsatiger.jpg
18.Big cat expert Alex Kerr goes with a lion in a fight with a tiger.
19.Indian zooligist Kalish shankala say’s lion’s beat tiger’s due to mane’s.
http://i277.photobucket.com/...dchamp/boldchamppics031-1.jpg
20. Sir Frank . owner of bowstock say’s lion’s are more dangerous than tiger’s.
http://www.nfa.dept.shef.ac.uk/jungle/index1a1.html
21. Lee Yong Phil zoo keeper say’s lion’s dominate tiger’s.
Animal Tigers: Dominated by the Black Tigers in Everland ... Animals Tigers
22. Frank C. Mendel, professor of pathology, say’s male lions mostly wins in fights with other cat’s
Faculty Profile - Jacobs School of Medicine and Biomedical Sciences - University at Buffalo
23. Chapter 4 Sajamu, religous dance’s rein acting of lion’s that killed an ate tiger’s.
http://www.mask.kr/coding/english/sub08.asp
24. Circus performer an big cat owner Geroge conklin say’s in his book the male lion has the advantages over other cat’s
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/...10U7xDeJ3L._SL500_AA300_.jpg
25. Beatty cole state’s that lion’s do kill tiger’s
http://i853.photobucket.com/...boldchamp/tamerdaveHoover.jpg
26.Caroll soo holl apperntly know’s lion’s are capable of killing male tiger’s
http://i853.photobucket.com/...posedtowinafightwithalion.jpg
27. Burt Nelson say’s lions usally whips the tiger’s
http://i917.photobucket.com/...9/JinenFordragon/books-84.jpg
28. Entire team of Tiger territory a site that has 200 page’s of studying information dedicated to the tiger, has a confirmation that lion’s are superior to tiger’s in fighting
Interspecies conflict. Which animal is the ultimate carnivore?
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29.1842 animal new’s article having a trainer of all animal’ssaying lion’s were the most dominate animal and feared more above tiger’s.
http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=12636137
30. The mengerineLions will not stay in the same cage with tigers. We tried this once, putting a lioness in with a Bengal tiger. There was a fierce fight and the lioness nearly killed the Bengal."Chapter V11
http://www.circushistory.org/History/OnRoad2.htm
31. Caviar and Cabbage [Book] Melvin B. Tolson .
Tolson was the professor, poet and writer portrayed by Denzel Washington in
The Great Debaters , which is based on a true story from 1935 America.
http://www.marcnorton.us/93588/102643.html
32. Sir Samuel w. baker has carefully compared the strength and other qualitie’s of the lion an tiger an he decide’s in favor of the lion.
http://www.oldandsold.com/articles35/animals-2.shtml
The Living Age - Google Books
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33. THE CATS OF SHAMBALA 1985 By Tippi Hedren and Theodore Taylor
Page 176, tigers are the original scaredy-cat. Although most ferocious under certain conditions, adults are scared silly over numerous odd things. Thunder and Lightning which a lion takes in stride, panics a tiger. Silver reflectors scare tigers, if you want to take over a room full of tigers walk in wearing a silver suit. In the movie ROAR a big siberian tiger name ivan backs down from a tiny lion cub. Tippi Hedren is a former actress that has lions and tigers and other animals on her compound in Acton,Ca.
34. Animal Planet team of zoologist enthusiast and scientist, concluded the lion would win in a fight with a tiger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_PHs-kbypo
35. Interesting read on Dr.Sc Giuliano Russini view on Lions and Tigers.
...African lion presents phenomena of aggressiveness which, contrary to what is thought render it more dangerous in the wild than the tiger and more difficult to manage in captivity, as observed by the zoological biologists.... This caused by overheating corporeal overheating phenomena, is in fact a handicap in case of prolonged fights, drawback not found in the lion who, as they say, will struggle up to the death.Same can be said for the fighting techniques, which all stand in favour of the Panthera leo ,accustomed, as it is, to face in the savannah a great variety of preys and competitors, in comparison with the solitary tiger....
http://www.photomazza.com/?Panthera-tigris
36. Circuss owner an big cat owner Geroge conklin say’s lion’s are stronger in term’s of pure power.
http://www.readbookonline.net/read/53518/99655/
37. 36. Randy miller favor’s a lion against a tiger in a fight.
38. Craig busch favor’s a lion over a tiger in a fight.

  
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Message 4 of 40 (664656)
06-03-2012 10:52 PM


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{Recorded Historical Document’s of Lion’s Killing Tiger account’s}
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1.Genius books/Animal facts, Lion named Nero killed Tim the tiger in
an Australian zoo — Documentary.
2.1936 Agartala zoo in bengal, a lion kills a tiger. (Local news report)
3.1935 Sikestonians saw a lion kill a tiger in a local town circus
act.(Documentary)
Just a moment...
4. 2 tigers died, In the the big cage tiger from a lion-(Video)
http://wildanimalelite.yuku.com/topic/307
which clyde beatty is talking about lion’s in general when they are intermidiate family they will gang up on tiger’s other than that, lion’s will not help another lion,and are exellent free for all fighter’s an all clyde beatty’s fight’s for the movie was one on one.
5.1955 oct, 6 Naturual history society, Page 465-468, 3 separate
accounts lion won all 3.(Documentary)
6.1960 Korea pit fights Male lions won majority of all fights stated by zoo keeper lee young phil.(Hidden news Report)
Animal Tigers: Dominated by the Black Tigers in Everland ... Animals Tigers
lee young phil statement said, there were a few tiger and lion fight’s staged an recorded, and only one that the female tigris fought the lioness was aired with harsh wording’s of the korean narrirator saying, the lion was no match for there symbol of power, yet it was a 50/50 fight having the tiger the one bleeding to death. Also saying they were edited an spliced in favor of the tiger, which if there were more than a few male fight’s recorded, why werent they ever shown. It is highly concluded the male lion’s won all, an the video’s were destroyed due to cultrual idlelization’s of the korean’s. here’s the other alibi to that same fight here
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/HA28Dg01.html
7.1981 Martin. L Albert witnessed a lion kill a tiger.(Documentary)
8.1954 Lion kills tiger with one blow in Boltimore zoo.(Documentary)
9.1935 In the town Bedford, Masachusetts a zoo lost a tiger to a
lion.(Local news)
10.Gir foreset 3 tigers vs 3 lions, all lions won. (Video) -Youtube-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBdpiIxMnMM
11.2011 Korea two teen lions killed a adult Bengal tiger in an
enclosure.(Video)- Youtube-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNlRBGq3rmk
12 King Edward the lion kill’s Dan the male tiger. (Book)
animalcreativity.webs.com/12664042-Lion-and-Tiger-Interactions.pdf
13.Calcutta zooligical garden’s a lioness kills a tiger(New’s article)
14.Gambier bulton, brittish mengerine saw a lioness kill a tiger.(New’s article)
15.1925 Rudolf kludsky had said several lions had killed his tiger’s. A few years later, Rudolf Kludsky again decided to train a mixed group (22 animals). Mistake. It took three months to get them used to each other. But they were not yet ready to perform. During one of the first shows, the nervous and inexperienced animals engaged in a free for all. One tiger was killed by a lion. Source=Tiger fan named Peter Yuku.com
16. M. Herbert’s mengerine lion kills male royal bengal tiger. (New’s article)
http://i853.photobucket.com/...oldchamp/Lionkillstiger-1.jpg
17.1970 pittsburgh Press lion kill’s tiger in india.(Video)
18. Mr F.c owner of bowstock had a lion kill a tiger before his act.(New’s article)
19.1949 in fitchburg a lion kill’s Roger the male tiger in circus act.(New’s article)
20 1851, In the Landshuter Zeitung a lion killed a tiger.(German new’s atricle)
Velar Male Lion vs. Royal Bengal Tiger.(valauble/rare account)! - Animal vs Animal-
21.1985 Alan gold’s circus lion kill’s tigerAlan Gold also had a mixed group. In 1985, a free for all erupted. He lost two lions and one tiger. The lions were killed by other lions. The tiger was killed by a lion. Gold, regarding the way both cats fight, compared to Beatty. He stated lions fight in a calculated way, whereas tigers, in a free for all, are nervous and vulnarable. Source=Tiger fan named Peter Yuku.com
22. Lion kills tiger: in a circus (February 1951. Detroit).
23. Lioness kills tiger: Happened in a zoo (September 1951. Madras Zoological Gardens).
Some new accounts (just for fun). - Animal vs Animal
24 dave hoover 2 tiger’s killed by lion’s
http://i853.photobucket.com/...hamp/Hooverlionsvstigers2.jpg
25. Beatty cole lion’s kill 2 tiger’s
http://i853.photobucket.com/...boldchamp/tamerdaveHoover.jpg
26.Clyde beatty’s circus act Ceasar the lion kill’s bobby the male tiger
27. Bavenna, OH, Lioness kills tigress
28. 2008 Cheongi the lion kills 50 pound bigger siberian tigress name Hobi jeonju zoo.This is hobi the tiger before the incident sparing with a friendly lion
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An this is Hobi after the incident with cheongi the not so friendly lion
Lion Kills Tiger in Zoo
29. 2006 lion mate’s kill huge white tigress in leberic and czech zoo. There was only one bite mark on Isabella’s throat an no other wound’s concluding even though 2 lion’s occupied the same encloser with isbella the tiger, only one lion attacked isabella.
2 lions kill white tiger in Czech zoo - USATODAY.com
30. Lion kills Puna the male tiger

  
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Message 5 of 40 (664657)
06-03-2012 10:53 PM


http://i277.photobucket.com/...2008/brentonlion/Image-81.jpg
31. A lion kills a tiger in a palace of an indian prince in front of thosuand’s
http://i277.photobucket.com/...tonlion/lionvstigerfights.jpg -
It’s on this site called tiger territory, on lairweb .com here
Tiger Territory. The Internet's most massive information and tiger photograph resource.
32, TIGER; THE STORY OF THE INDIAN TIGER 1977 By Kailash Sankhala. Saw four accasion’s lion’s defeated tigers in the wild.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/...1-n1cZ9FyL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
His book was taken from his oringinal text here
http://bks4.books.google.de/books?id=3_baAAAAMAAJ&printse...
33. jam sahib has wittnessed 3 fights having all lion defeat tiger’s in his book here
http://shared.knights.co.uk/...s/KSAMar12/images/lot0706.jpg
also in his summarry when he exploited keshari singh he point’s them out again here
http://i917.photobucket.com/...JinenFordragon/pagetwoju9.jpg
34. 1834 diary of a lterature lion defeat’s tiger.
35. A lion kills a bear and tiger in 1 fight.
http://i277.photobucket.com/.../brentonlion/books_003-25.png
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{Here’s a few documented Historical Artifact’s an Sculpture’s that are mostly in}
museum’s, portraying the lion winning against the tiger, an each has a back story if you care to look them up and apperntly they would have to have seen the incident, to etch it or sculpture it an these are from different people from Rome, to India, to Britain, to China all portraying the same thing the lion having the
{winning course. }
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1. http://www.grosvenorprints.com/jpegs/1148.jpg
2. http://www.grosvenorprints.com/jpegs/6445.jpg
3. http://lh4.ggpht.com/...052010%20054713.bmp_thumb%5B3%5D.jpg
4. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/...engeance+on+the+Bengal+Tiger.jpg
5.http://www.monstermedals.com/ekmps/shops/monstermedals/images/seringapatam-medal-1799-bronze-426-p.jpg
6. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/.../2327160149_b2c00365d3.jpg
7.http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad19/JinenFordragon/4020413334_f726b193eb_z.jpg
8. http://japanantiques.net/...n-fighting-a-tiger-on-wood-stand
9.http://c48743.r43.cf3.rackcdn.com/Images/2009_04/08/0003/147355/147355_c40ec03c-3661-4b2e-b4f7-5314cb28b9b4_-1_273.Jpeg
10. Just a moment...
11. http://images.metmuseum.org/...dp/web-highlight/DP805844.jpg
12. http://www.huma3.com/repository/reviews/afterdelacroix.jpg
13. http://www.raden-saleh.org/enlionsandtigerfighting.jpg
14. http://ylovebigcats.com/...nt/uploads/2008/09/lion_tiger.jpg
15. http://www.artvalue.com/...ischen-lowe-und-tiger-2088424.jpg
16.http://www.kunstkopie.de/kunst/ferdinand_victor_eugene_delacr/kampf_loewe_tiger_hi.jpg
17. http://www.royalathena.com/media/Under2500/Roman/GMS021.jpg
18. http://www.dargate.com/cat/268/86.jpg
19. lion+statue+cope.jpg (image)
20.http://www.empyraeum-antiquaria.de/ebay/graf/2609_11/2609_5_1.jpg
21.http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2009/05/15/news/photos_galleries/G3061_photo06.jpg
22. http://www.eliteauction.com/...ogues/060411/images/296_1.jpg
23. http://www.simmonsgallery.co.uk/...35Serial%20Letter%20t.jpg
24. http://www.historytoday.com/sites/default/files/rb_fight.jpg
25.http://www.wildabouttheworld.com/gallery/data//519/medium/LM00831lion-tiger.jpg
26. Page Not Found
27. http://www.worthpoint.com/...n-tiger-fighting-figurine-japan
28. http://www.skinnerinc.com/full/927/872927.jpg
29. http://www.art-prints-on-demand.com/...savaging_tiger_hi.jpg
30. Redirect Notice
31. http://prints-4-u.com/store/images/F1431805/F1431805101.jpg
32. http://img.antiquesreporter.com.au/110626BNSY/388.jpg
33.http://liveimages.quicksales.com.au/quicksales/general/classified/gc4686207972357702311.jpg?width=300&height=225&aspect=fitwithin&padcolor=ffffff
34 http://movieart.net/...ds/2011/05/full-darkestafrica-1sh.jpg
35.http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books_003-63.png
36. http://storage.canalblog.com/22/68/119589/21241443.jpg
37. http://img.carters.com.au/134770-tn.jpg
38. R. S. Johnson Fine Art
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40.http://www.christies.com/lotfinderimages/d19958/d1995873r.jpg
41. http://storage.canalblog.com/45/07/119589/74167850.jpg
42. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/...1pwwRAdwJL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
43. http://storage.canalblog.com/79/17/119589/69752062_p.jpg
44. BBC - 404: Not Found
45. http://www.artvalue.com/image.aspx?PHOTO_ID=2978976
46. A Japanese bronze lion and… - Decorative Arts & Fine Furniture; Fine Jewellery - Bonhams - Antiques Reporter
TIGER’S ROAR
http://inchinapinch.com/.../coniferous/images/tiger_roar.mp3
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LION’S ROAR
http://www.tunghai74.org/forums/movie/MGM-Lion-Roar.mp3
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Message 6 of 40 (664658)
06-03-2012 11:00 PM


lion kills grizzley and polar bear's
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1.1902 lion named roosevlet killed peary the polar bear.
2.John heliot’s circus lion named brutus kills polar bear.
http://i27.photobucket.com/...ttBanks/lionkillspolarbear.jpg
3. lion kills polar bear 1955 By Alfred Court.[Book]Pages 131-132,
http://www.worthpoint.com/.../2011/02/Life-With-Big-Cats.jpg
4. lion kills polar bear Louis Roth, forty years with jungle killers, [Book]
page 204-205.
http://www.worthpoint.com/.../uploads/2011/02/Louis-Roth.jpg
5.1893 Pezon in limoges, Leo the lion kills polar bear
6.Boltimore the lion kills russian grizzley
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7. Lion stale mate’s enormous grizzley bear
THE OAKLAND TRIBUNE APRIL 1, 1895 "A DRAW" PARNELL FIGHTS A BIG BEAR.
THE LOS ANGELES TIMES APRIL 2, 1895 "BRUIN THROWS LEO
8. Lion kills bruin the grizzly bear
http://www.pictures-of-cats.org/images/lion-vs-bear.gif
http://lh3.ggpht.com/...%252C%2520TIGER%2520AND%2520BEAR.jpg
9.http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books_003-25.png
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{ANATOMY}
[Power of the lion’s Mane]
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Source 1.
http://members.aol.com/bhilton665/tanzania.../lion_D1602.jpg
Now both males attack, one grappling with her head as the other bites her stomach. She twists away in pain from the stomach bite.
Note the protection offered by the mane on the lion on the left as the female's claws and blows are cushioned by the thick matted fur.
Source 2.
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Indeed there are good scientific data that male lions with long manes are more likely to survive and have fewer injuries.
The Fetal Matrix: Evolution, Development and Disease
By Peter D. Gluckman, Mark Hanson
Source 3.
This tiger was captured in India and went against a lion after being in captivity for only few days. Don't tell me that these few days changed the tiger's behavior in which it could not deliver a fatal neck bite.
It was the Tiger's fight and he knew it. He sprang at the staggering Lion, took a fearful chop on the nose without flinching and set his teeth into the African's hairy throat. They wrestled desperately, and the Lion's heavy mane saved him from suffocation. Great mouthfuls of long coarse hair catching in the Tiger's teeth not only preventing him from getting a death grip, but so interfered with his with his respiration that he had to release the hold, whereupon the Lion swatted him with a tremendous uppercut and sent him tumbling twenty feet away.
Source 4.
Google Books
The lion's mane, not possessed by the female, is evidently such a weapon of defense; it is a excellent means of protection against the bites which the male lions try to inflict on each other's necks when fighting for the females; consequently those males with the strongest manes have the greatest advantage in the sexual struggle.
The History of Creation, Or, The Development of the Earth and Its Inhabitants by the Action of naterual causes.
By L. Dora Schmitz, Sir E Ray Lankester
Source 5.
Down sprang Caesar, determined to seize the offensive, but before he could do so, Bobby had battled his way through Caesar's paws, grabbed his mane so stubbornly that he couldn't move. For the next couple of minutes each struggled and strained for an advantage, but Bobby's hold was so tenacious that they only succeeded in twisting a little. With the cameras continuing to grind and getting nothing but a little harmless tug of war Energy spent, the exhausted Bobby tried to roll away from Caesar, but Caesar's hold now was as firm as Bobby's which had been on his mane. Seeing this turn in affairs, I dashed into the cage. Already Caesar's jaws had crunched Bobby's neck and when I got there Caesar was shaking Bobby's limp, bloody head and throat from side to side. Bobby's eyes were turning starey. He was dead and it was only two minutes since I had dashed the ammonia into his face. I was keenly sorry that I had done it, but in thinking it over I became convinced that my part had been negligible. The lion is frequently the superior; he doubtless would have been the winner in this case no matter what I had done.
Source 6.
If so, it is conceivable that a single male lion attacked by a pack of hyenas could reduce injury with the help of its mane. Manes protect males in interaspecific in other species. It may additionally confer advantages by limiting wounding in the neck region.
~Antipredator Defenses in Birds and Mammals
By Timothy M. Caro
Source 7.
The lion's mane, not possessed by the female, is evidently such a weapon of defense; it is a excellent means of protection against the bites which the male lions try to inflict on each other's necks when fighting for the females; consequently those males with the strongest manes have the greatest advantedge in the sexual struggle.
The History of Creation, Or, The Development of the Earth and Its Inhabitants by the Action of naterual causes.
By L. Dora Schmitz, Sir E Ray Lankester
Source 8.
FAQ on Lion - Africa Mammals Guide
The mane is also a means of protection to the face and neck during fights between male lions.
Source 9.
It causes him to look bigger without increasing his weight or need for food. It also protects him from bites and scratches should he have to fight another male.
Page not found - Honolulu Zoo Society
Source 10.
The mane protects the lion from bites to the throat or the neck.
http://www.destinybigcats.com/cats/zen.htm
Source 11.
BBC - 404: Not Found
The mane protects the lion during fights with other males.
Source 12.
Home | San Diego Zoo Animals & Plants
The lion’s thick mane protects his neck against raking claws during fights with other males for membership in the pride.
Source 14.
(e.g lion's mane protects him from teeth and claws in a fight).
http://www.kidcyber.com.au/topics/animalclassif.htm
Source 15.
Male lions are the only cats with manes. This collar of long, thick hair covers the head, except the face, and the neck down to the shoulders and chest. The mane makes the male look even bigger and stronger than he is. It also protects him during fights. The long, thick hair softens the blows of his foes.
Schaller, George B. "Lion." World Book Encyclopedia. 2002 ed. The best naturalist of the 20th century said that.
Source 16.
On the open savannah, a lion's mane advertises his maleness from a great distance. To enhance his mane, a lion will do the "lion strut": tip-toeing on front legs, erect body and tail. The mane also protects against claws and teeth in male combat.
http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Afric...serve-BR-1.html
Source 17.
A male lion's mane is designed to protect the animal from attacks from other lions. It apparently also works with hand grenades as well. Marjan's neck and chest were spared serious injury, but his face was badly mutilated by the blast.
http://www.lionlmb.org/lion/marjan.html
Source 18.
The most distinctive feature of the male lion is its mane, a collar of long, thick fur. An adolescent male's mane will begin to grow at 18 months, after which it will continue to grow and darken until the age of five. A visual indicator of gender and power, the mane also serves to protect the lion's neck from other lions.
The Living Edens "Lion"
Source 19.
The mane helps protect the lion’s neck during fighting and make him appear larger to competitors
African Lion
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Their mane serves a number of purposes: a) it identifies him as a mature male to other lions, even at a distance b) it gives an appearance of increased size with little weight cost c) the condition of the mane conveys the level of health and vigour to female lions d) it can help protect the head and neck area in fights with other lions.
Page not found – International Society for Endangered Cats (ISEC) Canada
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Source 21.
Samantha Stephens, says the lions mane might not make a big difference, but it might be that crucial amount of difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK9etg51Do8
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Source 22.
When one animal attacks another, he seems to know by instinct. He strikes for the neck for a quick kill. Nature seems to have provided the lion with a defensive covering -- a mane to protect the neck area.
~The Lion in Fact and in Fiction
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Source 23.
The mane is strictly a male attribute and gives lion’s their majestic aura It acts almost like a fencing mask, absorbing paw swipes aimed at the head and necks during fights between rivals. When mane’s grow to big for both rival’s, the fight can last up to hour’s due to the mane protecting the main arterie’s, little to nothing can be done to male’s who have mane’s that grown larger than others for it’s main reason is for combat .
~The Art of Being a Lion
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Source 24.
The mane plays an important role in the lion’s life. While a long mane that blows easily in the wind may be difficult to hide when hunting an alert zebra, it is a distinct advantage in defense That same mane gives his neck a good bit of protection in case the intruder does not turn away and chooses to challenge the resident lion for his position.
~The Last Big Cats An Untamed Spirit
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Source 25.
Male lions are larger than females and possess a voluminous mane which contrast with the sleek pelage on other parts of the body The distinctive colors and sizes of manes may also help animals to identify individuals. An important secondary function of the mane is one of protection during fights. The dense mat of hair absorbs blows and harmlessly tangles claws in a part of the body towards which most social contact is directed; bites too, may leave an opponent with a mouth full of hair rather than skin.
~The Serengeti Lion A Study of Predator-Prey Relations Wildlife Behavior and Ecology series.
Source 26.
There is no direct evidence, but if we examine the probabilities in the case of a confrontation between the two some inferences can be drawn. In a fight would de unable to get close to the vital joint of a lion’s neck because of his thick mane, but the tiger is vulnerable to the lion. The film showed that the tiger was at an immediate disadvantage. Tigers use a throat grip as their primary means of killing and the lion's thick protective mane prevented the tiger gaining a hold on the throat joint. On the other hand, the tiger had no special protection, so was vulnerable to attack. In this fight, the tiger was killed. In any inter-species confrontation lions would also have the advantage of the who pride. But in my opinion a tiger is no match even for a single lion of equal strength. In any inter-species confrontation lions would also have the advantage of support from members of the whole pride. But in my opinion a tiger is no match even for a single lion of equal strength.
Tiger! The Story of the Indian Tiger, by Kailash Sankhala.
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Source 27.
Now, as to a lion and tiger, I should say that the tiger is the more powerful of the two. At the same time, it is more cowardly, has more of the slinking nature of the cat, and is more treacherous. I believe I’m fully qualified to state, as I’ve had them both on me. I bear the teeth marks of a lion that shut his jaws tight on my legs. But it isn’t the teeth of the big cats trainers fear so much. It is the claws, being hooked, tear out the flesh and sinew as they are withdrawn. When a lion goes at a trainer he starts right towards him, with no subterfuge, mouth open and tail as stiff as a poker. A tiger cringes and crawls until he makes his spring. In a fair fight it would be hard to guess which animal would come off victor, and much would depend, I think on the one that got the first good hold. The lion also is protected around the neck by the heavy mane, which is an advantage.
~George Conklln, Adventures With a Circus
Source 28.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_FtEEFZq_s
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Lion’s mane save’s him from tiger’s throat attempt, an also aidded the tiger to release due to breaking his breathing pattern.
http://i853.photobucket.com/...Lionsmaneoffersprotection.jpg
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Lion’s bone density
http://wildanimalelite.yuku.com/...s-defeating-killing-bears
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http://wildanimalelite.yuku.com/...s-defeating-killing-bears
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Lion and tiger anatomy advantage’s
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Lion’s claw’s are averagly bigger
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Message 7 of 40 (664661)
06-03-2012 11:11 PM


Lion’s have been showed in these scientific study’s lion’s have bigger lung’s, bigger heart’s, for better stamina, along with more testosterone, the tiger’s for more agression an dominating feature’s which effect’s social living pattern’s, of being the all around more dominate animal, here
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here`s info on the weight, length, and stamina level of lions and tigers - Animal vs Animal
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lion vs tiger stamina - Animal Untamed
lion rip’s off tigers tail
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Roman’s
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Caspian tiger's closest geno, were of Siberian tiger's by only a fraction off there Dna. So in term's scientist have concluded, they were imported from Siberia an fought with the Barbary lion.
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There's only one source for all story's that has branched out for a victory of a tiger side, over the lion in the gladiator event's. It was a man name Martial peter's who saw a tiger kill a lion in the arena. Every time you here tiger's invaribly won, or the tiger won is manipulated to have been every match... but every one unbeknownst are only quoting martial peter's, who they ignore's his remnent an scripture, which say's that was very unexpected an was a rarity to see a tiger win, meaning lion's were usally the dominant animal. That's absouletly the only account on hand that date's that far back for the tiger's side, which were blown out of porportion's of claiming that was the usaul outcome. Better explained here...
http://s6.zetaboards.com/Leo_Tigris_Elite/topic/1089715/2/
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On the other hand there are over 15 historical artifact's an over 10 remnent's an scripture's, that explain the lion was the usual victor in the gladitorial event's here...
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-1. Next, the arena was lowered to feature combat between them as lions tore apart tigers, an went up against bears, leopards against wolves. It goes without saying that the Romans had never heard of animal rights.
~Ken Spiro; WorldPerfect
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Page not found - Ken Spiro
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2. The amphitheatre had grown so still, that the clear melody of the flute was distinctly audible over the whole vast space. As soon as the disturbance ceased, the king of the beast, apparently untroubled by the new visitor, returned to his food. But the cowardice, peculiar to nocturnal beasts in the daylight, awoke in the tiger. He beheld in the shrieking multitude friends of the flute-player, and seeing the lion eating, seized the nearest piece of meat. But with a single bound the lion sprang forward, roaring loudly, to defend his property. The tiger’s claws clutched the lion’s and a fierce struggle began. The lion aimed terrible blows at his antagonist, which the tiger avoided with marvelous skill; the tiger’s teeth seized the lion’s mane, but at the same instant the latter tore off with his claws from the upper part of the tiger’s head half the skin, from which an eat and a broad trail of blood upon the sand, the tiger returned to his cage, where he howled piteously. The grating was raised, and soon only a faint whining was audible. Either the animal was dying, or the keepers had stupefied him to be able to cure him. The lion stood fiercely over his prey, which no one now disputed.
~Antinous; a Romance of Ancient Rome
http://img2.imagesbn.com/images/136510000/136518696.JPG
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/...1ErpsQVjfL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
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The Memoirs of Cleopatra
3. They took on tigers, bears, bulls, and wild boars. Usually the lion won. page 284
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4. "Another subspecies very closely related to the Asian lion - the Barbary lion or Panthera leo leo - became extinct in the wild in 1922 (in Morocco). This animal the Barbary lion had been the dominant animal in the blood sports of the Roman arenas."
~Martin Seyer's dissertation (synopsis), Vienna University.
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5.Tiger territory, AKA lairweb .com has stated tiger's were reluctant to enter combat as much as lion's greeted foe's in the arena, also proven in same concept of everland's video's how male lion's show high agression at time's an drive off tiger's proclaiming there natrual dominant trait's.
6. An half way down, in this archive here, they state roman's cheered when lion's tore apart tiger's...
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Message 8 of 40 (664662)
06-03-2012 11:17 PM


Tiger weight’s
tigers.ru
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http://www.edu.pe.ca/southernkings/tiger.htm
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http://i713.photobucket.com/...chamah/SiberianCloseto400.jpg
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Animals in India, Tiger, Tiger in India.#
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Animals in India, Tiger, Tiger in India.#
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Tiger facts photos and videos, siberian tiger, bengal tiger, amur tiger
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http://english.savechinastigers.org/node/31
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Page not found - Redorbit
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Tiger's average no bigger than lion's, and lion's have reached weight's of even the biggest tiger's here...
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Intresting lion’s killing arab’s
- raden-saleh.org - This website is for sale! - raden saleh Resources and Information.
- 900 pound lion
Sarasota Herald-Tribune - Google News Archive Search
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800 pound lion named ponto fight’s off 2 tiger’s
Just a moment...
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826 pound lion named simba
http://i1017.photobucket.com/...91/KingOfEurope/45yedsdy.jpg
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800 pound lion named mubasa
Brit Spaugh Zoo - Great Bend, Kansas
http://www.thirdage.com/...nd-lion-receives-root-canal-video
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826 pound lion
Jungle Photos Africa Animals mammals - lion natural history
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800 pound lion attack’s tarzan
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2 800 pound lion’s 1 named Prince an 1 named clarence
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Documented Lion weights.
385 kg ) Botswana -
335 kg Angola (1973) G. Gladney
333 kg - Sudan The J. K. Roberts
333 kg - Kenya M. J. Timmins
328 kg - Uganda G. Prud'homme
324 kg - Tanzania J.
320 kg - Trance bar/var C. V. Merriman
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318 kg - Somalia A. M. Toulmin
318 kg - Rhodesia H. J. Pratt
318 kg - Mozambique
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Lion and tiger size comparison..
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http://prehistoric-fauna.com/img/orig/cats_size.jpg
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2 male’s spaid lion with no mane.
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http://utterlycute.com/...012/03/Lion-Bear-Tiger-610x441.jpg
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WordPress.com
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WordPress.com
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Message 9 of 40 (664663)
06-03-2012 11:19 PM


{Detailed fight's}
-1. Next, the arena was lowered to feature combat between them -- Romans cheered as lions tore apart tigers, an went up against bears, leopards against wolves. It goes without saying that the Romans had never heard of animal rights.
~Ken Spiro; WorldPerfect
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2. The amphitheatre had grown so still, that the clear melody of the flute was distinctly audible over the whole vast space. As soon as the disturbance ceased, the king of the beast, apparently untroubled by the new visitor, returned to his food. But the cowardice, peculiar to nocturnal beasts in the daylight, awoke in the tiger. He beheld in the shrieking multitude friends of the flute-player, and seeing the lion eating, seized the nearest piece of meat. But with a single bound the lion sprang forward, roaring loudly, to defend his property. The tiger’s claws clutched the lion’s and a fierce struggle began. The lion aimed terrible blows at his antagonist, which the tiger avoided with marvelous skill; the tiger’s teeth seized the lion’s mane, but at the same instant the latter tore off with his claws from the upper part of the tiger’s head half the skin, from which an eat and a broad trail of blood upon the sand, the tiger returned to his cage, where he howled piteously. The grating was raised, and soon only a faint whining was audible. Either the animal was dying, or the keepers had stupefied him to be able to cure him. The lion stood fiercely over his prey, which no one now disputed.
~Antinous; a Romance of Ancient Rome
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The Memoirs of Cleopatra
3. They took on tigers, bears, bulls, and wild boars. Usually the lion won. page 284
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1."Clyde Beatty had a narrow escape at Sikeston, Mo., when "Detroit," a huge African lion, and a performing Siberian tiger, started a battle, which ended in the death of the tiger. Beatty had just finished his act and had stepped from the cage when "Detroit" pounced upon his tiger and the fight lasted for almost 20 minutes before "Detroit" broke the tiger's back. Beatty and his assistants, Capt. W. K. Bernardi, Eugene Scott, Grover McCage and others were unable to break up the fight. It was the second tiger that "Detroit" had killed in the last five weeks and Beatty stated the fight was the most ferocious that he had ever witnessed.
^Two tigers killed by same lion
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6. "He preferred jungle cats to those born in captivity, which he thought were spoiled, and his courage at working with them became legendary. In 1928 at Kokomo a tiger landed on top of him only to be killed by a lion in an ensuing 25-minute fight that saved Beatty's life."
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7. King Edward has reached the end of SUBMISSION, and Dan, through his greed, THE END OF HIS LIFE. For the lion, disregarding all the usual leonine methods of fighting, suddenly adopted the tiger tactics, attacking from a position straight on his haunches, and with forepaws working, instead of the usual one. The result was the tiger’s claws were tangled in the greasy, heavy ARMOR-like mane of the lion-and useless. When those of King Edward ripped at the foe until DAN sank to the cage floor, A STRICKEN, GASPING, DESEMBOWELLED THING. Edward ceased his attack, disengaged his mane from the now USELESS claws of the Bengal, and went back to his feast!
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8. The first documents an event set up to entertain a prince who s. The fight took place in the pit of a palace compound with the entire encounter being recorded. The film showed that the tiger was at an immediate disadvantage. Tigers use a throat grip as their primary means of killing and the lion's thick protective mane prevented the tiger gaining a hold on the throat joint. On the other hand, the tiger had no special protection, so was vulnerable to attack. In this fight, the tiger was killed.
~Kailash Sankhala and Tiger Territory.
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9. As a boy I used to wonder what would happen if a lion and a tiger got into a fight. For years I would play that over in my imagination and speculate about the outcome. Until one day I happened to see a movie exhibited by Dr. Louis Talbot. He had been in India on an occasion when a lion and a tiger had somehow accidentally fallen into the same pit. Someone was there with a movie camera and filmed the whole thing. I tell you, I watched with great interest as this battle went on! These cats circled one another, one would lash out at the other, they would spit and snarl and leap about in that light way cats have. Then suddenly they would grapple together and roll about, spitting and biting. It was tremendous to watch! Then, quicker that the eye could follow, something happened, and the tiger appeared to cave in. He simply fell down. The lion had caught it at just the right moment, had slapped it on the side of the head, and had crushed its skull. That was the end of the battle.
~Lion Tiger Fight.
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10. There was a great deal of lion and tiger pit fighting held in Korea until 1960. Historic reports say the lion was found very difficult to beat, again due to the head protection afforded by the mane. The film mentioned on the previous page has the tiger as the winner, but this fight would seem to be only one of many that were carried out, and all other reports found, to date, say the lion usually won.
Tiger Territory.
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11. Despite the final appearance given by the movie, tigers were largely unsuccessful in the gladiatorial area. Lions were more popular as they put on an excellent fight display, whereas tigers were surprisingly reluctant to enter into battle. Placed in with lions, the tigers would often simply retreat.
Tiger Territory.
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12. "I can cite a few instances of male tigers whipping male lions, but I can't think of one such case where the tiger didn't have a distinct advantage. I also recall a case where a tiger had a marked advantage and lost the fight. The lion seems to have no fear of the tiger.
~Clyde Beatty
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13. There is no direct evidence, but if we examine the probabilities in the case of a confrontation between the two some inferences can be drawn. In a fight would de unable to get close to the vital joint of a lion’s neck because of his thick mane, but the tiger is vulnerable to the lion. In any inter-species confrontation lions would also have the advantage of the who pride. But in my opinion a tiger is no match even for a single lion of equal strength. In any inter-species confrontation lions would also have the advantage of support from members of the whole pride. But in my opinion a tiger is no match even for a single lion of equal strength. Moreover, tigers would tend to avoid confrontation by withdrawing from the area, and lions might have found an easy walk over tiger land by forcing the retreat of the tiger from the dry plains at least.
~"Tiger, the story of the Indian tiger" by Kailash Sankhala
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14. Mr. Bolton said that a friend of his saw, in the circus at Verona, a battle between a lion, and a tiger, a horse, and an ass. The tiger shewed symptoms of fear, and wished to decline the battle with the lion. He fought however at last with great fury; but, though he foiled the lion for a time by his alertness, soon yielded on close contact to the other’s matchless strength. The lion chiefly used his paw, with which he struck tremendous blows.
~The Gentleman's Magazine
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15. A lion slaps on the face of a tiger as they fight for the control of a pool at a zoo in Nanjing, east China's Jiangsu province July 18, 2004. The lion finally occupied the cool water of the pool in the summer heat wave after it defeated its challenger in two minutes.
~People's Daily Online
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16. The tigers hands some hits really but controls none of the fight. The lion lack’s a mane so the tiger fails to grip the lion like on the other videos. Undisputedly the lion wins both fights. ^Two tiger losses:
~Jungle Jim 1936 Lion vs. Tiger Fight, for those who want claim that the tiger was meant lose let it be known that the fight existed two years before Jungle Jim in the 1934 film Devil Tiger, which was about tigers. kingdomanimalia_wink.gif
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17. Lost Jungle fight 1: Clyde Beatty, the world's greatest animal trainer, travels the jungles of the world in search of exotic beasts and adventure. Beatty's expeditionary dirigible crashes on a remote unexplored island teeming with wild animals. One the series a unexpected and real life fight between a lion and a tiger is filmed. The Lion defeats the tiger in a circus ring.
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18. "Another subspecies very closely related to the Asian lion - the Barbary lion or Panthera leo leo - became extinct in the wild in 1922 (in Morocco). This animal the Barbary lion had been the dominant animal in the blood sports of the Roman arenas."
~Martin Seyer's dissertation (synopsis), Vienna University.
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19. Although lions and tigers are anatomically virtually the same, male lions regularly fight to attain and maintain pride females"I suspect that male lions on average would be more aggressive and persistent than male tigers, hence would prevail."
~Frank C. Mendel, professor of pathology and anatomical sciences at UB.
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20. When the safari spectators see a fight between the lion and the tiger cumulating they reveal a big interest. When the time comes the real image inside the safari is disappointing. To be how the lion is actually stronger.
~Lee Yong Phil is a practiced lion & tiger keeper at the Everland Zoo, and on a interview on he clearly stated that Koreans who believe that the lion is no match for the tiger is living in a fairy tale. I been recently privileged to view the complete Everland videos and though evidently bias the tiger, the striped cat performed less than mediocre.
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21. The lion is not so powerful an animal as the tiger, but fights much better. A tiger will make his attack, and then retires; but a lion never retreats; he fights until he is killed.
~The Asiatic Journal and Monthly Miscellany
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22. Equal in size to the Lion, though generally inferior in strength, it wants not courage or ferocity to attack the king of beasts; a temerity which generally proves fatal.
~The Volume of the World: Embracing the Geography, History, and Statistics, of the Nations of the... - Page 794
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23. Following a wounded lion is considered most awkward work, for they have credit of making their charge good, and of not swerving on one side when fired at close enough to singe them almost, as I have known to be the case with tigers on more than one occasion Asia’s Last Lions
~This is not really a source but still it just points to the lion’s renowned aggression.
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23. This animal is the scourge of Asia and the Indian Islands. Equal to the lion in stature, though generally inferior in strength, it generally falls a victim to its temerity in so doing, unless some disparity of age or other circumstance should bring the strength and power of the two animals to more of a level.
~A History of the earth and animated nature v.1 Pg 369
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24. A tiger attacked an animal trainer during a ‘Murat Shrine Circus’ performance. The tiger grabbed the trainer by the hip, dragged her down, grabbed the leg and started pulling her towards the cage. One of the lions came off the pedestal and slapped the tiger with his paw and sent her flying through the air, giving the trainer a chance to escape. The trainer required 18 stitches. (ar-news e-mail, 03/1997) Page not found – Zoocheck
I think the tiger is a female and I know it is no much of a fight but I feel no reason to remove it.
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25. Clyde Beatty was one of the world's most recognized animal trainers. Known mostly for his circus work, Beatty also worked in film with his cats. He was a practitioner of the "whip and chair" school of training. He thought that animals could only be taught through fear. During the filming of a fight between a lion and a tiger for the movie The Big Cage, Beatty threw ammonia in the tiger's face so the animal would look angry on film. The cat was so enraged it fiercely attacked the lion, and the lion in turn killed the tiger.
~ Cynthia Boris 1999, the big cage issue has met a storm of controversy and some claim that the tiger was not killed.
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26. In February 1951 a lion fought and killed a tiger as 3,000 children looked on at the opening performance of a circus at Detroit, Illinois, U. S. A., and another tiger was killed by a lion at Madras Zoological Gardens in September the same year after being transferred to the lion's cage while his own quarters were being cleaned. (2 tigers were killed)
~A friend found these for me and boy a double whammy, it should be found in multiple sources like the Guinness book of animal fact and feats.
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28. The following month a large Bengal tiger named "Tim" was killed by a lion named "Nero" at Perth Zoological Gardens, Western Australia. The tiger was in a cage adjoining the lion and a lioness named "Bessie". The lioness forced up the steel slide dividing the cage and Tim, curious, put his head through. Nero, the zoo's biggest lion, promptly bit him in the throat, and in three minutes the tiger was dead.
~Guinness book of animal fact and feats
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29. In June 1949 a circus at New Bedford, Massachusetts, U. S. A. lost its tiger after a battle with a lion.
A lion and a tiger battled to the death here. The lion won. When Biller Brothers Circus moved on to its next stop, it left behind the carcass of the loser, a tiger weighing quarter of a ton.
~This is the same account with two sources one is from Guinness book of animal fact and feats; I do not have the name of the other one on hand, but I can retrieve it if need be.
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30. Please don't forget the lion vs. tiger fight that was reported in last year's September (2005) edition of Monthly Chosun, the magazine with the largest circulation in South Korea nowadays. During this fight, Po Cheol the majestic male lion knocked out a very large, 200+ kg male tiger, sending him flying as far as 3 meters!
~Monthly Chosun
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31. After this we came to the memorable lion and tiger fight which was supposed to settle the aged controversial question, "which is the better fighter, the lion or the tiger?" The idea of a fight to the death between a lion and a tiger fascinates almost anybody who has any red blood in him. Here are the two most unsociable brutes of the jungle, both treacherous, wary, cunning and ferocious. Darwin and some others thought the lion's mane was intended as an armor for its blood vessels during a fight, rather than as a sexual adornment, which is the contention of a few. This mane the tiger misses. On the other hand the tiger is an individualist, not given to ganging as the lion is. The tiger is therefore nearer to being self-dependent. In my experience, the lion has shown himself somewhat superior to the tiger in fighting, yet it would not be safe to say that the lion can always whip the tiger, for sometimes it comes out the other way. Sometimes the tiger holds off three or four lions and leaves the cage unharmed.
~Jungle performers, 1941
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32. DETROIT, A LION ATTACKS AGAIN. Prince, the young lion that killed a tiger during animal trainer Clyde Beatty's performance at Shrine Circus here, snarls in cage after seriously- wounding another tiger at show last night. Beatty was hopeful of saving the tiger's life with penicillin. Penicillin failed to save the second tiger.
AP Wirephoto.
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34. He said he would watch the killer lion very close from now on, but indicated he felt there was nothing too unusual about the fight. "The biggest expense I have is tigers killed by lions. he said. "They are natural enemies but then, that makes the show better." He said lions had killed "probably 50" tigers in the years he has been working with the big jungle cats.
~Clyde Beatty Wow 50 Deaths, so I will be fair and add about 40 victories for the list, since I have few Beatty accounts. Let Roman lessons be learned. This will be a endless pool for the lion to draw victories from...
75. A tiger is supposed to win a fight with a lion. But it took a rifle bullet to do it at San Francisco's Fleishhacker Zoo. Zoo' director Carey Baldwin told the story Wednesday. Two lions were being transferred to other cages through the tiger grotto Sunday. Tuffy, a 12-year-old lion, somehow opened the- door to the grotto and attacked Nicholas, a 6-year-o1d Siberian tiger. Riflemen came running when zoo keeper Alec Weiss sounded the alarm. The lion had an apparent death grip on the tiger's neck. Carroll Soo-Hoo, principal benefactor of the zoo, took one look and killed the lion. The tiger was worth $3,500, the lion $100. Catherine, the female tiger at the zoo, cowered in a corner during the fight.
~San Francisco (AP)
This is a very good account, and it is probably my favorite, the lion was quite old and judging by his price was not a prime specimen or and possibly a smaller Nubian/Eastern lion. Nevertheless he defeated a male Siberian in his turf and would have most likely killed him if he was not shot. I am fairly certain if he was not killed he would have killed both tigers. So much for the Siberian tiger being out of the lion’s league!
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76. Sept. 19Sikestonians had a glimpse of big-game hunting when a lion killed a tiger during circus performance here.
~The Sikeston, 1935
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77. Now, as to a lion and tiger, I should say that the tiger is the more powerful of the two. At the same time, it is more cowardly, has more of the slinking nature of the cat, and is more treacherous. I believe I’m fully qualified to state, as I’ve had them both on me. I bear the teeth marks of a lion that shut his jaws tight on my legs. But it isn’t the teeth of the big cats trainers fear so much. It is the claws, being hooked, tear out the flesh and sinew as they are withdrawn. When a lion goes at a trainer he starts right towards him, with no subterfuge, mouth open and tail as stiff as a poker. A tiger cringes and crawls until he makes his spring. In a fair fight it would be hard to guess which animal would come off victor, and much would depend, I think on the one that got the first good hold. The lion also is protected around the neck by the heavy mane, which is an advantage. There is one instance I remember where a full grown lion and tiger engaged in combat, by unforeseen chance of course. It was when the John O’ Brien Show had its winter quarters in Philadelphia and I was connected with it. A lion and a tiger were in a compartment cage, with a partition between. In some manner this partition was battered down in the night and the two big felloes got together. They had probably been issuing challenges to each other and promising what they would do to one another if the chance came. When morning arrived we found the two in the lion’s cage, the tiger dead and the lion all chew and clawed to pieces, but still full of fight.
~George Conklln, Adventures With a Circus
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78. LION KILLS TIGER WITH ONE BLOW. Curiosity killed the cat today at the Baltimore zoothe cat in this case being a $1,200 year-old Sumatra tiger. The tiger got into a between-the bars tangled with a lion and the lion ripped a gash in the tiger's leg. The tiger was found dead in its cage today. Fifty stitches had been taken in the tiger's foreleg after the brawl. Tuesday he was put under anesthesia to make him sleep. But this plus penicillin and other medicines couldn't save him. Death was blamed on pulmonary thrombosis, Zoo Director Arthur Watson said the tiger stuck his paw over a metal guard into the lion's cage in a gesture of curiosity. A male lion did the rest.
Baltimore (AP) Zoo Battle Results In Tiger’s Death 1954
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79. Lion Kills Attacking Tiger
When a connecting door between two cages was left open at Agartala, Bengal, by a forgetful zoo attendant, a tiger charged its neighbor, a lion. The fight was ferocious, but did not last long, the lion literally tearing the tiger to pieces.
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87. It was a fight to the death between a lion and a tigress in the arena at Bosktock's show yesterday before the audience gathered, and the lion won. Last night "Annie." the tigress was gasping out her life in her cage, while "Romeo" the big eight year old lion pompously paraded his cage as if proud of his feat. Prof. Charles Millere, one of the animal trainers connected with the show is getting up a new act. In it are two lions, two tigers a Thibet bear, a polar bear and a big baboon. Every morning they are marched out into the arena and put through their paces behind the 20 foot iron railing. As yet the animals are not on very friendly terms. Yesterday morning the lions and tigers did "their turn" Everything went well, and Prof. Millere was congratulating himself that the act would soon be ready for public production. Suddenly "Romeo" and "Annie" came close to each other. It all happened in a moment. "Gr-r-r!" snarled "Annie," "Romeo" roared. Then the tigress flew at "Romeo" and tried to catch him by the throat. He shook her off with one toss of his head; she tried for the shoulder hold. She missed it by an inch. Either clutch secure, and a tiger will hold one say the trainers, until it is killed. In a twinkling the arena was in a tumult. The baboon was screeching upon a pyramid, paralyzed with fear, and the bears were lunging madly against the iron bars of their pen in a mad attempt to get away. "Romeo" batted his paw at "Annie" and knocked her down. She sprang wildly at him. One savage roar and he buried his fangs in her spine. Deeper and deeper sank his teeth in the soft flesh. The tigress shrieked madly and clawed frantically to get free. Every animal in the place heard the conflict and began echoing a lusty chorus to the fight. The attendants were powerless. Both beast were fighting for their lives. Millere pronged them ruthlessly, but he might as well have used his weapon on the board floors. "Romeo" hung like grim death. Millere whipped a revolver filled with blanks out of his pocket. "Bang! Bang!" went his weapon, but it didn't disturb the death hold of "Romeo." Mr. F. C. Bostock, the proprietor heard the rumpus and rushed into the arena. In his hand he has a fire extinguisher. He turned the nossle full into "Romeo" nostrils, and the big beast let go. Millere and his helpers drove "Annie" back with their long prongs. She sank helplessly in a corner, while "Romeo" with bristling mane and lusty roar, slowly retreated into his cage without a scratch. The Tigress had to be carried to her cage. There was an ugly wound in her back, and the examination showed that the spine had been injured. Last night she was unable to stand up, and it seemed that here death will be a certainty. "Annie" is worth $2,000, and had she submitted to training her value would have been double.
The Gleaner, Friday November 2, 1902
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88. The lion trainer forgot to lock the door in the partition between the lions and a female tiger that we had just brought, after his rehearsal at Bavenna, OH, and the tigress pushed it open an walked into the lion’s den. A terrible fight followed, in which one of the lions disemboweled and fatally injured her.
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89. The amphitheatre had grown so still, that the clear melody of the flute was distinctly audible over the whole vast space. As soon as the disturbance ceased, the king of the beast, apparently untroubled by the new visitor, returned to his food. But the cowardice, peculiar to nocturnal beasts in the daylight, awoke in the tiger. He beheld in the shrieking multitude friends of the flute-player, and seeing the lion eating, seized the nearest piece of meat. But with a single bound the lion sprang forward, roaring loudly, to defend his property. The tiger’s claws clutched the lion’s and a fierce struggle began. The lion aimed terrible blows at his antagonist, which the tiger avoided with marvelous skill; the tiger’s teeth seized the lion’s mane, but at the same instant the latter tore off with his claws from the upper part of the tiger’s head half the skin, from which an eat and a broad trail of blood upon the sand, the tiger returned to his cage, where he howled piteously. The grating was raised, and soon only a faint whining was audible. Either the animal was dying, or the keepers had stupefied him to be able to cure him. The lion stood fiercely over his prey, which no one now disputed.
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90. 18. "Another subspecies very closely related to the Asian lion - the Barbary lion or Panthera leo leo - became extinct in the wild in 1922 (in Morocco). This animal the Barbary lion had been the dominant animal in the blood sports of the Roman arenas."
~Martin Seyer's dissertation (synopsis), Vienna University.
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91. 500 Pound Circus Lion Arrives In Fitchburg Today After Killing Huge Tiger. The incident, as related today by the trainer of "cats," who has been engaged in this daring business for 29 years or since he was nine years of age took place before the end of the act which involved six lions and Roger, the tiger. The prince, who boasts of partial American parentage, his mother being a native of the United States and. his father a Spaniard, said that the battle lasted but five or six minutes.
Fitchburg, Mass, Friday, June 3, 1949
ell not only Beatty, but also famed big act trainers
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Lion’s fight’s tiger lion’s swipe’s are much more powerful and leave’s deeper wound’s
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Slightly bigggger tiger land’s weak flurry’s while the lion’s 1 swipe snd’s the tiger crashing into the bar’s
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Message 10 of 40 (664664)
06-03-2012 11:22 PM


Exploited and faked account’s and bullshit leverage’s
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#1.Everland of white tiger killing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3P3sptnCUI
Now first of all, the artcle say’s the lion was new,which is bullcrap that lion is named cameron who was with that zoo since he was a cub and came in with that tigress named Zabu who are now with big cat rescue.
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Now look at these picture’s of them playing, an tell me exactly how is the camera man suppose to have get that picture he took at that distance before the people who patrol the zoo’s with there car’s always’s broke up fight’s hundred’s of time’s? And how’s this camera man suppose to get that shot at that persice moment it happened when the distance are so flush and looks as the exact distnace as these right here
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http://bigcatrescue.org/...and-White-Tiger-BCR-002012Mar.jpg
http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/181/445/181445824_640.jpg
http://downloads.thedaily.com/...white-lion-tiger-4-662w.jpg
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http://bigcatrescue.org/...Running-2012-Steve-bigcats322.jpg
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http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/181/445/181445824_640.jpg
http://bigcatrescue.org/...erZabuOnCameronWhiteTigerLion.jpg
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Here’s a Url saying zabu cleaning cameron XD
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http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/...cff8fc70c6c9f2be/l.jpg
one picture frame away does it look familiar? XD XD
http://www.pictures-of-cats.org/...-versus-lion-21608800.jpg Oh what’s that is that a name I see on the top corner of the page.
Huh! That’s right caught in the act, I’m a landscaper and ground’s keeper for 8 year’s and studyed the biology of hundred’s of different grasses, and the grass in the picture with the so call death and Cameron’s and zmabu collection of picture’s are the same. I even emailed everland’s resort and they stated that, that never happened and cameron the lion is still alive today. You don’t belive, then here, here’s there contact email and phone number to get a hold of them, yourself
http://www.everland.com/...glish/resort/introduce/intro.html
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#2Here’s another tiger fanatic lying punk, who said there was 6 lion’s used on 1 tiger Huh! Really 6, give me a break, here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GXoKnG4ksY
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Here’s a person graphing all the tiger’s showing just like a human’s finger print, no tiger has the same stripe’s, showing there was indeed 3 lion’s vs 3 tiger’s like the real movie’s narrirator said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBdpiIxMnMM
Ive seen the original video, it had nothing to do with them fighting it was a documentaion of all the animal’s of india, and none on youtube have the original, which suppose to have a narrirator talking, stating that beside’s all the animal’s they descirbed for the fight scene the lion’s and tiger’s that fought the tiger’s couldent land a death grip and gassed them selve’s out. But lion #2 mauled the big male tiger.
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#3Another one is junglar the fighting tiger who killed 31 lion’s. this is a fake account and a missprint. First there was an article that had numbering’s of junglar killing them with the number’s 31, after I confronted the guy who showed it, I told him I read 4 document’s of junglar an they stated he didn’t fight any lion’s he was famous for killing a lot buffalo’s and was the first tiger who brought down a rhino, who a few tiger’s failed to do. Who also he killed a few other tiger’s and said it must have been a misprint because I know the king of oude had very few lion’s.
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This mook then stated I was lieing, and showed a revised one saying in wording, look now. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/...AAAAAQQ/_SBctIVNkmc/s1600/j3.jpg It say’s thirthy one lion’s in wording’s you cant misprint letter’s, and I’m lieing about the what I’m saying. XD XD Then I said you were caught in the act because when you revised the new one that said wording’s of the number’s the date you edited it was still there an this one has a different name from junglar to gunga an I said okay here’s where it state’s the King of oude had only 3 lion’s, here
ABAA - Antiquarian Booksellers' Association of America - Antiquarian and Rare Books - 14k
http://www.amazon.com/Private-Life- Eastern -King -Nussir.../1108046703 - 178k
eastern king of oude - Google Search
The private life of an Eastern king [by W. Knighton from information ... - William Knighton - Google Books
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In those site’s and those book’s, they state the King of oude had only 3 lion’s it look’s almost uncanny that he just put 1 after 3 to make 31, than changed it in another to wording’s to make it look lgeit and after confronting him with the real document’s he never replyed back hmmmI wonder why? XD
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#4 Jackjacksonj site had claimed he had 367 account’s I mixed and matched all the account’s and he had only 30 that mean’s he leid on 330 account’s, which I posted the answer sheet you can go threw on this very page also on his site I left all the one’s he lied on in his guest book and blog.
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#5 The same idiot named Ptigirs who made the account of 6 lion’s with Gir has many account’s on you tube here’s another one of his faked one’s of being a lion hater
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eqWZJtdhCc
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And here’s the real account he changed the wording’s from
` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyOG0SYNmjA `
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#6 Ton’s of people use Prison of the harem with performing acting lions and tiger’s as an account, which say’s the tiger killed the lion, http://4.bp.blogspot.com/...bYgBNAT5l4/s320/sdfaasdfadsf.JPG
XD That’s only people reading the story’s plot, that the tiger killed the lion,, he didn’t actually die, it was only a scene for the movie no lion’s were ever killed for any movie. Only the movie the big cage, had 3 tiger’s die, one was bobby the tiger the star for the movie and other 2 were suppose to have been the star of defeating the lion ceasar, for the scrpit the director wanted a tiger winningbut the first 2 tiger’s died so fast that there wasent any footage to be recorded, but Bobby was the one who was aired in the movie, who Cesar killed. Shown in this article shown 3/4th’s the way down this page here
http://wildanimalelite.yuku.com/...n-vs-tiger-fight-accounts
Clyde beatty was asked in general who beat’s who, which he stated lion’s would gang up on tiger’s though only if they are intermidiate family member’s like brother’s or son’s and father’s, in many other article’s he state’s lion’s are exlellent free for all fighter’s where tiger’s cant handle the pressure of those bout’s, also the big cage exhibition for the movie was 1 on 1 in demand from the director, not clyde beatty who is only the trainer, who stated he actually dident want the fight in many article’s, but if he dident take the role some other person unexperinced, would have gotton killed.
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#7 More tiger killed lion bullshit faked account’s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCBErSJ6h5U
#8 Ankara incident 2011 bullshit account it wasn’t a male tiger it was a female.
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Bullshit leverage’s
--80% OF Tiger account’s are of male tiger’s killing female lion’s. an under age lions.
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1.Male tiger kill’s Lioness in bangalore, 1954
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2.Male Tiger kill’s lioness in Mysore, 1946
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/...AAANY/zbR9XftEbJk/s1600/viro.JPG
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3.Male tiger kills lioness in Milan 1951
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4.Male tiger kills lioness in culcutta mengerine.
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4.Male tiger kill’s female lion in marco peter’s reserve.
http://i853.photobucket.com/...mp/Lionusuallywhipsatiger.jpg
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5.John varty’s biggest Male tiger named Seatao, kills savana the lioness in tiger canyon.
WANDALUST online | Every year is Year of the Tiger at South Africa’s Tiger Canyons | Bites from a writer and life coach's world
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6.Burr robin’s circuss male tiger kill’s fermale lion.
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7.Male tiger kills lioness 1869 Getty’s berg.
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8.Fort lauderdale male tiger kills female lion.
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9.Bronx zoo a big bengal tiger named rajah killed heruta a 3 year old female lion.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/brightln/bva.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/brightln/bva.jpg
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10.Perth W.A male tiger kills female lioness
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/...AAAARA/lx8IrWIPxTk/s1600/999.jpg
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1. The tiger named mogul vs the lion named prince account
At last, with bars of iron and long whips, they beat Prince off from Mogul.
Huh? If Mogul was claimed to be winning the fight why did they beat Prince the lion with {Iron Bar’s} an {Whip’s} to get him {OFF} mogul? If they didn’t on a top position like that, mogul would have soon been dead.
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2.Staford’s animal reseve, a tigress kill’s {3;3 month old cub’s} Need I say more? There cub’s.

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Message 11 of 40 (664666)
06-03-2012 11:44 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Prime
06-03-2012 11:22 PM


So, on balance, which do you think is better?

CRYSTALS!!

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Message 12 of 40 (664667)
06-03-2012 11:44 PM


Well, frankly people alway's say that the lion only had the title King from the disney movie lion King an never lived in the jungle XD... Which was 20 or so year's ago. But the lion had the title {King} for thousand's of year's. Here's a few Historical turn point's an back story of the lion threw different era's an different culture's...
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Lions have always been considered the kings of the Jungle. But most of the people in the world think that lions are only found in the African continent. People haven't been mislead in this regard, the truth is that there aren't much lions left in the rest of the world. About 10, 000 years ago lions spanned vast sections of the globe, but as the human population started to increase, trees were cut and forests were cleared to make more land for people to live in. Now lions only in small fractions in some parts of the world. And Asiatic lions, a subspecies that split from African lions perhaps 100,000 years ago, are only found in the Gir wildlife Sanctaury of the Indian state of Gujarat.
http://www.indianwildlifeportal.com/...dia/asiatic-lion.html
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The legacy of the lion, King of Beasts, as the model throughout history is demonstrated by its appearance among the earliest drawings made by humans over 15,000 years ago.
http://www.indiantiger.org/wild-cats/lion.html
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There were magnificent illustration of lions amongst the statues at Mahabalipuram. The most major use of the lion as a symbol of power and strength was associated with the Emperor Asoka in Sarnath, 2000 years ago.
http://www.wild-india.com/IndianAnimals/indian-lion.html
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Presently, Gir National Park is serving as the only home of the Asiatic lions in the whole world. However, the situation used to be different some years back. Indian lion once used to roam around in Asia Minor and Arabia, from Persia to India. Even in the Indian subcontinent, they used to be found in the northern areas of the country as well as in the eastern areas, upto Bihar. In south, Naramada River used to serve as the boundary for the Asiatic lions. Read on to know more about Asiatic lion history in India.
The species got extinct from Bihar in 1840, Delhi in 1834, Bhavalpur in 1842, Eastern Vindhyas & Bundelkhand in 1865, Central India & Rajasthan in 1870 and Western Aravallis in 1880. The history of Asiatic (Indian) Lion in the country tells us that the last time an Asiatic lion was found in the wild outside Saurashtra was in the year 1884.
http://www.iloveindia.com/...imals/asiatic-lion/history.html
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Some dedication's to the lion, who also have made conservation's to save the King from extinction...
Full Stop India - Stop for the Best Products in India
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InFVedic literature, the lion is mentioned as the king of the jungle. Asiatic lions were abundant in the Indus Valley (actual Punjab, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Sind). Tigers were the animals of the East. For Vedic people, the inhabitants of western India, the lion was a more popular animal than the tiger and was the icon of power.
InFBuddhist literatureF(300BC), theFJatakas, a collection of 547 stories about Buddha’s prior existenceFin which he is described as having taken birth as a variety of different animals, the Asiatic lion is once again a prominent character.FBecause Buddha plays the leading role of a pre-eminent person he is styled as the Universal Monarch (Raja Chakkavatti); and a lion (siha).FThat could explain why,FEmperor AshokaF
(273 -F236FBCE), the most famous of the Buddhist rulers of India,Finscribed his famous edicts on the lion capitol of Sarnath.
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Message 13 of 40 (664669)
06-03-2012 11:55 PM


To: Panda
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It's still a toss up. It's like pitting a white man vs a black man, there's no way in telling who'd be the victor in over all status. Some time's the lion sometime's the tiger, but I think that male lion's hold a share hold of an advantage due to the mane, being more of a practiced fighter due to living in coalition's, while the tiger is solitary. Tiger's fight as well, yet not rutinely as the lion do.
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I love both tiger's and lion's it's a tough one, but the evidence I presented more favor's the lion in a fight...

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Message 14 of 40 (664670)
06-03-2012 11:58 PM
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06-03-2012 11:44 PM


Do you think you might have gone a little too far when researching your answer?
I dread to think how much you would post if asked "What is your favourite food?"

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Message 15 of 40 (664673)
06-04-2012 12:14 AM


Again lion's usually live in coalition's like these...
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Pride of males
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http://www.wildmandirectory.co.za/...males-at-Simbambili.jpg
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http://www.krugerpark.com/...loads/2011/11/IMG_8236-Copy.jpg
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So a tiger wont fair to well in the same territory as a lion, by showing dominance and claiming territory if a tiger was to roar in an area habitated by lion's, they would alert the whole pride, an as you can see a single lion has already killed tiger's hundred's of time's but by a direct call out to a territorial display of dominace lion's in coalition's would rip the tiger into shred's the only chance for the tiger would be to run, which if the whole pride see's him even that would be hard.
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Lion's are strong enough to kill animal's that's pass the 5,000 pound range an even as high as 20,000 pound's...
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Lion killing buffalos
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Not far from this pride another pride in Linyanti Botswana specializes in killing Hippo.
Botswana Safari - Feeding - Botswana Wildlife Guide
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Fourth hippo killed.
The five male lions coalition (Notch & sons) killed a Hippo near Rekero last night. I found them this morning feeding ont he hippo, thouhg Notch himself had already eaten and was sleeping in teh shade about a hundred metres fro teh carcass.
As the morning sun started getting hot, the lions left the carcass one by one untill only one was left and this one decided to guard the carcass from teh Hyaenas that were waiting around.
While watching this, some four Buffalo bulls came towards the carcass. Tehy soon picked teh scent of the lions and they started charing at two males that were sleeping in the bush, driving them away from the vicinity of the carcass, although Notch was spared since he was a bit further. The Buffaloes left breifely before coming back and started chasing the lions again around. This time they went upto the carcass and drove away the one that was watching over it, and drove them away including Notch.
After this drama which lasted half of the morning, the Buffaloes gave up and left the lions to continue with feast. This is the fourth Hippo we have seen recently killed by the five. It seems they are now tunring to the Hippos since there is not much else to hunt.
Paul Kirui Safari Blog: The Lion and Buffalo drama in the Mara
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Lions hunt hippo in the Sabi Sand - by Brett Thomson - Sun Safaris
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2 male Lions attack Hippo at Krugerpark, fight versus vs - Dailymotion Video
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lion have killed and fed
off three hippos this month
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Besides isolated cases of Hippo predation by Lions their main threat is from humans. That said there is a pride of Lions in northern Botswana that used to prey on Hippo regularly. The majority of Hippo / predator interaction is from Hippo defending their territories from roaming predators.
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Results 1 - 15 of 131 ... Filmed in Botswana, from about 10 feet away from the lion. The lion had killed the
hippo the night before. The hippo is belly up.
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Lions killing elephant’s
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Lions rarely prey on elephants. Botswana's Savuti lions, however, switch to preying on elephants during the late dry season (August-November), and the frequency of this has increased in the last two decades (1985—2005). An opportunity to document this phenomenon was made possible with infrared viewing and filming equipment. A pride of 30 lions killed one elephant every three days. Seven of eight elephants killed were between four and 11 years old, as deduced from molar teeth ageing, and this age group represented over half the kills recorded by Joubert ( 2006 ). It is suggested that this weaned, maternally less dependent age class, may be more vulnerable to lion predation. Lions prey on elephants since the density of conventional ungulate prey is reduced as a result of an annual migration, and artificial water provisioning has prompted an increasingly sedentary population of elephants. Notes are presented on the lion's behaviour in hunting elephants and the evolutionary significance of this.
Lion Predation on Elephants in the Savuti, Chobe National Park, Botswana
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Lion killing croc’s
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{Roman arena’s} Ken spiro mentioned lion’s also fought giant crocidile’s an the lion won, due to crocidile’s being cold blooded, if the croc dosent dispose the lion in the first 8 minute’s it would most likely surcumb to over heating, which then the lion toy’s with the croc with great agility dissasembling him piece by piece, which there are many statue’s of lion’s killing crocidile’s in the town of Baglug which is in italy, near the coliseum.
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