OK Conservatives. Got some 'splainin' to do.

I never fell for any of this shit, but clearly many of y'all did, because y'all were the ones arguing with me back in '03.So, who wants to go first?

looks like they are all hanging their heads for the next 3 to 4 years ...... or living in denial.

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Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.Oh, wait, Egypt! They need democracy! Let's bomb them next!

Don't forget the liberals who also supported the war. Hindsight leaves both sides of the isle wanting.Then of course, nobody but nobody knows what the planet would look like had the war not been undertaken. Islam is a catch 2 with no solution no matter what you do. Mohammed essentially said. "conquer the world for Allah" and that's what Islam is about. Did the demise of Saddam hasten or curtail that goal? Nobody knows for sure.As I understand the Biblical prophecies they will become the predominate military force with UN's blessing allied with the old communist block. It all leads up to the final Armageddon where the nations are prophesied to be drawn into the region for the final bloody biggy before the 2nd advent of messiah/christ Jesus who will rule the world at the temple mount in Jerusalem for a millenium.It's fulfillment of prophecy. Read it in Zechariah 14, Ezekiel 38, 39, Joel and elsewhere. End time focus is emerging in the Mid East where Israel has been regathered and reborn as the messianic nation exactly as Jesus, and the prophets foretold with Israel the focus and bone of contention. It's all about who will prevail, the prophet of Allah, Mohammed or the prophet/messiah of Jehovah, Jesus at the temple mount for world domination.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

riight buz . . .and I don't think you meant "island" (hint: isle should be aisle). well let's see. After he got into power, what did he do? Oh yeah, start a war with another muslim nation--Iran. After that, what was it? Oh yeah, a war against Kuwait. So the two wars he started were against nations sharing his religion (in the general sense, just like you'd say a baptist and a catholic are both christians).For that matter, just how long has it been since islam was "spread by the sword"? You know, as in full out war. I'm thinking a damn long time. Let's see, the Ottoman Empire got to the gates of Vienna as I recall, during the 1800s--and that was for territorial ambitions, not religious. So i'm thinking it was the French during the medieval period that ended the spread of Islam by war (for all intents and purposes--the Ottoman Empire did spread Islam, but not directly by war, or as a stated goal).The rest of your post is equal gibberish.

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Don't forget the liberals who also supported the war. Hindsight leaves both sides of the isle wanting.

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Other than Liebermann, I don't know of another liberal ('ol Joe really isn't one, anyway) who made anything even remotely close to the kinds of ridiculously overconfident statements I showed in the OP.Most liberals were more, "Well, OK, if Colin Powell says Hussein has WMD's, and the Nigerian Yellowcake thing is real, and if the CIA says there really was an Al Qaida link, then we will support this invasion."ALL of those things turned out to be false, so the liberal support was based upon false assurances given them by the Bush administration.

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Then of course, nobody but nobody knows what the planet would look like had the war not been undertaken.

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This isn't about "woulda, coulda, mighta, shoulda", Buz.This is about what the pundits said.And they were wrong, wrong, wrong.The thing is, I knew they were wrong, wrong, wrong, back in 03'.I never fell for that shit.You did.How do you feel about that?

Back in 03 on day 1 of the war I said to those around me that Iraq had little if anything to do with the terror threat, it would not be easy or quick, and that a lot of young Americans are going to die needlessly.I just wish I could have been the one who turned out to be wrong instead of these tossers.

Whoever did that cartoon has real style. Who is it/where is it from?It made me laugh loud as I went through it, though on reflection tears might have been marginally more appropriate.Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but some of these comments are pretty weird - O'Reilly and Morris stand out for me in this regard. It prompts the question: what were they all thinking? I don't have any trouble imagining that they believed what they were saying. But I'd like to get some insight into how they could believe these things (I'm thinking O'Reilly and Kristol primarily here).

The Ottoman Empire last saw Vienna on 9/12/1683, after that it was a slow downhill ride as far as power in Europe was concerned.See Battle of Vienna - WikipediaNotice the battle that finally drove them from Vienna and essentially became the high-water mark started the previous day on 9/11.Please excuse this off-topic correction, but in this matter facts will prove to be very important. Unfortunately for our conservative (meaning neocon and evangelical) pundits, the facts are not on their side.Are they ever?Wonder how many have later admitted being mistaken?

Nitpick - Nigerien, 'cause it was Niger, not Nigeria. If that ain't weird.....Tom Tomorrow does indeed kick some butt, doesn't he? Schraf, did yoy read the Cal Thomas quote at the bottom of the blog page where the cartoon came from? Here - What They Said | HuffPost Latest NewsEdited by Coragyps, : No reason given.

They're all archived here. You'll chortle through your tears for hours....

These are good... too good... Its past 2am now! Bugger!Its okay, I've cried myself dry now; I can concentrate on the noisy smiles.

Just out of curiousity, would you really classify Fineman and Matthews as conservative? I'd call them moderate (and Matthews as mildly insane), but I think putting them in the same category as Snow, O'Reilly, Kristol, and that ilk is a little insulting to them.I also have a soft spot for Kondracke since he seems so moderate when paired up with Barnes, but, alas, he is conservative.

No more full scale wars for Islam. They have thousands of suicide bombers awaiting their turn. That works for them in the age of hi tech where they have no means for full scale war.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

and those suicide bombers are converting others to Islam just how, exactly? You have to realize, a lot of those bombers are actually blowing themselves up against fellow muslims (such as in Iraq and Pakistan and Afghanistan).Did the suicide bombing of the WTC convert people? No.
Did the suicide bombing of London's transit convert people? No.
Do the palestinian and Hezzbollah attacks against Israel convert people? No.The only thing they do is kill people. Over oftimes non-religious issues [palestinians--a homeland; hezbollah--the existance of Israel (not so much religious, it ties into the palestinian homeland thing); Iraq--shitte and sunni (and kurd) political struggle; Afghanistan--the taliban's attempt to regain control (political); Pakistan--god knows, some religious, some separatist, some political]And on my side of the table, it's not exactly a good idea to blow up your missionary.You're clutching at straws, buz.