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Message 16 of 18 (9540)
05-12-2002 12:10 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Quetzal
05-06-2002 4:23 PM


"Or the 9,800 species of birds."
--Amazing what speciation will do.
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Peter
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Message 17 of 18 (9636)
05-14-2002 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Quetzal
04-22-2002 12:01 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Quetzal:
Just one quibble 'cause I'm actually an evil pedant in disguise. Most archeologists studying Mesoamerican cultures think that the form for Quetzalcoatl was inspired by my pseudonym-sake: the Central American Quetzal (Pharomacchrus mocinno). It is known that many of the really fancy Aztec headdresses were composed primarily of quetzal feathers (why not? the birds have a 2 meter tail!). They (the birds) were considered royalty (or at least reserved for royalty) by the Maya, among others. When it flies, it undulates very like a snake with wings - just like the representative drawings of Quetzalcoatl.
Didn't know that!!

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Peter
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Message 18 of 18 (9637)
05-14-2002 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by ksc
05-05-2002 10:22 AM


quote:
Originally posted by ksc:


ksc:Whether natural selection is or isn’t is debateable. What you have forgotten is that the mutations that you claim are naturally selected are RANDOM



Mutations in sexually re-producing organisms MUST occur in
the gametes. You cannot have a mutation that effects an already
existing organism, only a mutation which is created by a modification
to the DNA in the sex cells.
Males tend to produce millions of gametes on a very regular basis.
Gametes that have 'bad' mutations are likely incapable of
causing fertilisation.
If an organism produces 10 million gametes, and 1% of those carry
mutations which are potentially beneficial, that would mean
100,000 mutant gametes ... and so potential for offspring
carrying mutations.
It is also possible that 'bad' mutations have beneficial side-effects
in co-dominant situations (like sickle cell aenemia).
Mutations are NOT that rare ... I found a news article of research
that suggests there are up to four copy errors everytime a cell
divides (or some astronomical figure like that ... I'll try
to find the article again).

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