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Minnemooseus
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Message 571 of 809 (922527)
03-17-2025 12:43 AM


Berkshire Hathaway Vice Chairman Charlie Munger says Donald *****'s puffery ...
13 years ago -
quote:
...the last person almost I'd want to be president of the United States is Donald *****...
"***** derangement syndrome" strikes again./s
Does ***** qualify is being sane?
Now we need a prominent statement from Warren Buffett. Let's see ***** call Warren a stupid incompetent businessman.
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Message 572 of 809 (922528)
03-17-2025 7:43 AM


I asked ChatGPT for a list of Trump's most used phrases:
  1. "Like nobody’s ever seen before" – Used to emphasize the uniqueness or scale of something.
  2. "Believe me" – A common phrase for reinforcing his point.
  3. "Many people are saying" – A vague appeal to popular opinion.
  4. "Fake news" – Used to discredit media coverage he disagrees with.
  5. "Radical left" / "Radical rogue judges" – Labeling opponents as extreme.
  6. "Make America Great Again" (MAGA) – His signature campaign slogan.
  7. "America First" – A nationalist slogan used in trade and foreign policy.
  8. "Crooked [opponent’s name]" – A common attack strategy (e.g., "Crooked Hillary").
  9. "Witch hunt" – Used to describe investigations against him.
  10. "Rigged system" – A claim that institutions are unfairly biased.
  11. "Greatest economy in history" – A common claim about his presidency.
  12. "Low-energy [opponent’s name]" – A way to brand rivals as weak (e.g., "Low-energy Jeb").
  13. "Tremendous" – Often used for emphasis.
  14. "Total disaster" – Used to describe policies or opponents.
  15. "The likes of which we’ve never seen" – Another variation of the uniqueness claim.
--Percy

  
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Message 573 of 809 (922529)
03-17-2025 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 570 by PaulK
03-16-2025 9:24 AM


Re: Silencing the Voice of America
At least someone’s pleased with Trump’s actions: CNN
Chinese nationalists and their state media love it.

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AZPaul3
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Message 574 of 809 (922539)
03-18-2025 6:30 PM


Wash Post
A Breaking News piece from WAPO
NASA astronauts who were stuck in space for 9 months safely splash down in Gulf of Mexico.
Splash down where? Did Bezos not get the memo?

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

  
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Message 575 of 809 (922543)
03-19-2025 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 565 by xongsmith
03-14-2025 5:54 PM


Re: time to primary these idiots?
xongsmith writes:
These are the senators who collaborated with the GOP:
For those who disagree with Schumer's decision, what endgame did you have in mind?
I don't see the difference between 6x30 day CRs and a single 6 month CR. Threatening Republicans with a government shutdown doesn't sound like a winning strategy when Republicans are already actively tearing the government apart. If nothing else, Dems get 6 months of hammering every Republican budget proposal while still having an ostensibly Democratic budget.

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Message 576 of 809 (922553)
03-20-2025 8:23 AM
Reply to: Message 575 by Taq
03-19-2025 5:31 PM


Re: time to primary these idiots?
Taq asks:
what endgame did you have in mind?
Every day they should be storming Chief Justice Roberts' office demanding that he issue the equivalent of arrest warrants for Trump and Vance and Musk.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
"Enjoy every sandwich!"-Warren Zevon on his last DaveLetterman show

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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AZPaul3
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Message 577 of 809 (922554)
03-20-2025 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 576 by xongsmith
03-20-2025 8:23 AM


Powerless Court
Where is that power given to the Chief Justice so stated in the Constitution? It isn't. He can't. Trump can rule as he pleases, ignore laws and congressional intent and ignore any ruling from any court without sanction.
Under this constitution there are only three ways to force a president to leave office. SCOTUS making ANY statement or issuing ANY order is not one of them.
One, impeachment, may be in the nation's/world's best interests but we already know the republicans don't see that remedy as being in THEIR best interests. That will also not happen.
Second, the next elections are too far off to be effective and this society still loves them some right-wing conservative populist stupidity. Trump's political heir will have the high ground. Elections mean nothing in what has effectively become a one-party state.
Until someone exercises the third option ... we're fucked.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 578 of 809 (922555)
03-20-2025 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 577 by AZPaul3
03-20-2025 9:44 AM


Re: Powerless Court
One, impeachment, may be in the nation's/world's best interests but we already know the republicans don't see that remedy as being in THEIR best interests. That will also not happen.
Even if we were able to impeach and convict and remove Trump, what is there to make him actually leave?
The US Supreme Court has ruled that Trump is immune from the law, freeing him to break any and all laws and engage in any conspiracy to commit any crime just as long as he can claim he's "acting in his official capacity". And we are watching him and his administration openly commit terrible crimes and preparing to prepare ever more horrific crimes (eg, we can see the start of Pinochet-like enforced disappearance of anybody and everybody who might oppose them, the enlistment of law enforcement at all levels directly participating in their crimes).
The GOP Congress has already given up its power (eg, "power of the purse") to Trump. Even if they were to finally find their spine and assert themselves, how could they expect the Executive Branch to honor their Constitutional power? Or even the Constitution? And what's to keep opposition members of Congress from getting disappeared? I'll return to the matter of impeachment below.
I don't think that the 2026 elections offer us any hope. Besides Congress having willingly emasculated themselves, Trump has replaced the agencies and offices for running the elections and for ensuring free and fair elections with his own psychophants who will do whatever he wants. The fix is already in! He promised his base that they would never have to vote again and he is keeping that campaign promise.
The Trump Administration has already signaled the intention of ignoring court orders and have already started doing so, albeit up to this point not yet directly refusing to obey a court order, but that step is not far away. The judiciary has no actual power to enforce its decisions, but rather must rely on the DOJ (eg, US Marshall Service). Well, DOJ has become enforcers of Trump's will and whims, so they're not about enforce any court decisions.
Remember, Trump kept praising President Andrew Jackson, especially the part where Jackson refused to abide by a SCOTUS decision. An act that Trump appears to be chomping at the bit to emulate. Also remember how in his first term Trump had removed the Judiciary as the Third Co-equal Branch of the government from the government websites.
So, let's imagine the scenario where Congress finally wakes up and impeaches and convicts Trump and orders him removed from office. Who is going to enforce that removal? The DOJ? Nope! The courts? Nope, since they are being rendered just as impotent as Congress.
And even if Trump himself were to be removed, we still have the MAGAts entrenched in the Executive and in power. Trump is not the problem! He's just the face of this hostile takeover of our country. He's just the enabler of their takeover that they had been planning for decades.
Until someone exercises the third option ...
Trump is already planting his psychophants in the DoD and in the upper echelons of the chain of command. There can be no unified military response to this existential threat to national security and to the Constitution of the United States of America. Rather, any military response would have to be by individual lower echelon commands, which would also lead to a form of civil war within the military. Basically a massive cluster fuck with tons of collateral damage on the side:
Classic Stereotypical Vietnam War Military Logic:
It was necessary to destroy the village in order to save it.
More and more that looks like the most promising solution, but there's no coming back from it.
... we're fucked.
I'm trying to work in the ending of the movie, M*A*S*H (1970), where the PA announcer reads off the cast ending with the Army driver in Tokyo delivering his line:
quote:
Driver: Goddamned Army!
PA: That is all!
But I just got up and haven't had my breakfast yet, so my writing skills haven't spooled up yet.
So, yeah, we're fucked. Even if we are able to defeat and purge this MAGAt pestilence, America will have been destroyed and there will be no way back.

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Percy
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Message 579 of 809 (922582)
03-21-2025 1:56 PM


Matt Davies Cartoon
Great imagery. One can imagine that if Trump gets his way on visa holders that before his administration ends everyone will be required to provide proof of citizenship whenever requested by law enforcement.
--Percy

  
Percy
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Message 580 of 809 (922583)
03-21-2025 2:10 PM


I Love Musk's Trans Daughter
And after reading this you will, too. Sorry for just providing a link, but quoting from it wouldn't give the true flavor: Vivian Jenna Wilson Rips Elon Musk: ‘Definitely a Nazi Salute’
I'll just make one comment: I think Musk's a homophobe and a transphobe.
--Percy

  
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Message 581 of 809 (922590)
03-22-2025 6:29 AM


Just when it seemed impossible for things to get weirder.
Trump weighs in on report King Charles will offer U.S. commonwealth membership | The Independent

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 582 of 809 (922591)
03-22-2025 9:04 AM
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03-22-2025 6:29 AM


But...but...we hate allies.
--Percy

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Message 583 of 809 (922597)
03-22-2025 5:22 PM
Reply to: Message 582 by Percy
03-22-2025 9:04 AM


But...but... not the Russian or the N.Korean ones.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 584 of 809 (922598)
03-22-2025 11:08 PM
Reply to: Message 582 by Percy
03-22-2025 9:04 AM


But...but...we hate allies.

--Percy
Trump sees the word "King" in front of Charles' name and thinks he, Trump, could be a King too.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
"Enjoy every sandwich!"-Warren Zevon on his last DaveLetterman show

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Taq
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Message 585 of 809 (922602)
03-24-2025 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 576 by xongsmith
03-20-2025 8:23 AM


Re: time to primary these idiots?
xongsmith writes:
Every day they should be storming Chief Justice Roberts' office demanding that he issue the equivalent of arrest warrants for Trump and Vance and Musk.
What does that have to do with the 6 month CR that recently passed the Senate with Democratic votes?

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