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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3989 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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13 years ago -
quote: "***** derangement syndrome" strikes again./s Does ***** qualify is being sane? Now we need a prominent statement from Warren Buffett. Let's see ***** call Warren a stupid incompetent businessman. Moose
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Percy Member Posts: 23334 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.2
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I asked ChatGPT for a list of Trump's most used phrases:
--Percy
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PaulK Member Posts: 18120 Joined: Member Rating: 6.0
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At least someone’s pleased with Trump’s actions: CNN
Chinese nationalists and their state media love it. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fix link. Had a "==" in it.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8740 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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A Breaking News piece from WAPO
NASA astronauts who were stuck in space for 9 months safely splash down in Gulf of Mexico. Splash down where? Did Bezos not get the memo?“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,” -Daniel Dennett Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! |
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Taq Member Posts: 10451 Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
xongsmith writes: These are the senators who collaborated with the GOP: For those who disagree with Schumer's decision, what endgame did you have in mind? I don't see the difference between 6x30 day CRs and a single 6 month CR. Threatening Republicans with a government shutdown doesn't sound like a winning strategy when Republicans are already actively tearing the government apart. If nothing else, Dems get 6 months of hammering every Republican budget proposal while still having an ostensibly Democratic budget.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2667 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Taq asks:
what endgame did you have in mind? Every day they should be storming Chief Justice Roberts' office demanding that he issue the equivalent of arrest warrants for Trump and Vance and Musk."I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! "Enjoy every sandwich!"-Warren Zevon on his last DaveLetterman show - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8740 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Where is that power given to the Chief Justice so stated in the Constitution? It isn't. He can't. Trump can rule as he pleases, ignore laws and congressional intent and ignore any ruling from any court without sanction.
Under this constitution there are only three ways to force a president to leave office. SCOTUS making ANY statement or issuing ANY order is not one of them. One, impeachment, may be in the nation's/world's best interests but we already know the republicans don't see that remedy as being in THEIR best interests. That will also not happen. Second, the next elections are too far off to be effective and this society still loves them some right-wing conservative populist stupidity. Trump's political heir will have the high ground. Elections mean nothing in what has effectively become a one-party state. Until someone exercises the third option ... we're fucked.“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,” -Daniel Dennett Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6276 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
One, impeachment, may be in the nation's/world's best interests but we already know the republicans don't see that remedy as being in THEIR best interests. That will also not happen. Even if we were able to impeach and convict and remove Trump, what is there to make him actually leave? The US Supreme Court has ruled that Trump is immune from the law, freeing him to break any and all laws and engage in any conspiracy to commit any crime just as long as he can claim he's "acting in his official capacity". And we are watching him and his administration openly commit terrible crimes and preparing to prepare ever more horrific crimes (eg, we can see the start of Pinochet-like enforced disappearance of anybody and everybody who might oppose them, the enlistment of law enforcement at all levels directly participating in their crimes). The GOP Congress has already given up its power (eg, "power of the purse") to Trump. Even if they were to finally find their spine and assert themselves, how could they expect the Executive Branch to honor their Constitutional power? Or even the Constitution? And what's to keep opposition members of Congress from getting disappeared? I'll return to the matter of impeachment below. I don't think that the 2026 elections offer us any hope. Besides Congress having willingly emasculated themselves, Trump has replaced the agencies and offices for running the elections and for ensuring free and fair elections with his own psychophants who will do whatever he wants. The fix is already in! He promised his base that they would never have to vote again and he is keeping that campaign promise. The Trump Administration has already signaled the intention of ignoring court orders and have already started doing so, albeit up to this point not yet directly refusing to obey a court order, but that step is not far away. The judiciary has no actual power to enforce its decisions, but rather must rely on the DOJ (eg, US Marshall Service). Well, DOJ has become enforcers of Trump's will and whims, so they're not about enforce any court decisions. Remember, Trump kept praising President Andrew Jackson, especially the part where Jackson refused to abide by a SCOTUS decision. An act that Trump appears to be chomping at the bit to emulate. Also remember how in his first term Trump had removed the Judiciary as the Third Co-equal Branch of the government from the government websites. So, let's imagine the scenario where Congress finally wakes up and impeaches and convicts Trump and orders him removed from office. Who is going to enforce that removal? The DOJ? Nope! The courts? Nope, since they are being rendered just as impotent as Congress. And even if Trump himself were to be removed, we still have the MAGAts entrenched in the Executive and in power. Trump is not the problem! He's just the face of this hostile takeover of our country. He's just the enabler of their takeover that they had been planning for decades.
Until someone exercises the third option ... Trump is already planting his psychophants in the DoD and in the upper echelons of the chain of command. There can be no unified military response to this existential threat to national security and to the Constitution of the United States of America. Rather, any military response would have to be by individual lower echelon commands, which would also lead to a form of civil war within the military. Basically a massive cluster fuck with tons of collateral damage on the side:
Classic Stereotypical Vietnam War Military Logic: More and more that looks like the most promising solution, but there's no coming back from it.
... we're fucked. I'm trying to work in the ending of the movie, M*A*S*H (1970), where the PA announcer reads off the cast ending with the Army driver in Tokyo delivering his line:
quote: But I just got up and haven't had my breakfast yet, so my writing skills haven't spooled up yet. So, yeah, we're fucked. Even if we are able to defeat and purge this MAGAt pestilence, America will have been destroyed and there will be no way back. Edited by dwise1, : Corrected "and having had my breakfast yet" to "and haven't had my breakfast yet". Sorry for the mistake, but I hadn't had my breakfast yet.
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Percy Member Posts: 23334 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.2
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Great imagery. One can imagine that if Trump gets his way on visa holders that before his administration ends everyone will be required to provide proof of citizenship whenever requested by law enforcement. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 23334 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.2
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And after reading this you will, too. Sorry for just providing a link, but quoting from it wouldn't give the true flavor: Vivian Jenna Wilson Rips Elon Musk: ‘Definitely a Nazi Salute’
I'll just make one comment: I think Musk's a homophobe and a transphobe. --Percy
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Tangle Member Posts: 9699 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.3
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Just when it seemed impossible for things to get weirder.
Trump weighs in on report King Charles will offer U.S. commonwealth membership | The IndependentJe suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Percy Member Posts: 23334 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.2 |
But...but...we hate allies.
--Percy
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8740 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
But...but... not the Russian or the N.Korean ones.
“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,” -Daniel Dennett Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2667 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
But...but...we hate allies. --Percy Trump sees the word "King" in front of Charles' name and thinks he, Trump, could be a King too."I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! "Enjoy every sandwich!"-Warren Zevon on his last DaveLetterman show - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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Taq Member Posts: 10451 Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
xongsmith writes: Every day they should be storming Chief Justice Roberts' office demanding that he issue the equivalent of arrest warrants for Trump and Vance and Musk. What does that have to do with the 6 month CR that recently passed the Senate with Democratic votes?
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