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dwise1 Member Posts: 6284 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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So it looks very much like Trump was attempting to sell out Ukraine with the Russians on hand to see that it was done. A genuine peace was never on the table. I had duty last night, so I'll be spending today catching up on the coverage of that fiasco. This morning I saw the ending for the first time, where Trump turns to one of the camera crews saying (from memory -- I'm calling Trump "Il Asino", "The Dunce", as parody for Mussolini's title of "Il Duce" ("The Leader" which Hitler borrowed by being "Der Führer"):
Il Asino: That makes it even more obvious that, exactly like the MAGA psychophants* all of whose public performances were intended for Trump as their "audience of one", Trump was playing to his own "audience of one", Putin. Like everything he's ever done in public, he was putting on a show. Any actual negotiation or diplomatic goals are nonexistent or at least of miniscule importance compared to his getting his video clip. Welcome, America, to your new membership in the Axis of Evil. * FOOTNOTE: Psychophant --
Malcolm Nance (AKA "Senior Chief") uses that term to refer to Trump's MAGA "psychotic sycophants."
"psycho" plus "phants" --> "psychophants".
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6284 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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So now we're looking at the end of NATO ... Which has me wondering how that will proceed. Does the NATO treaty include provisions to suspend or expel a rogue member? Would the USA joining the Axis of Evil invalidate the treaty and require the remaining members to renegotiate from scratch. I know that the USA no longer believes in following any laws anymore, nor conducting itself in anything resembling lawfulness, but that doesn't mean that nobody else does too.
Did the US actually vote for this? No, we didn't. But our votes no longer count anymore.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6284 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Socially conservative Christians routinely violate this teaching. They are very judgemental. Maude Flanders in the The Simpsons parody of Rear Window (Bart of Darkness):
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6284 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Isolationist rhetoric like what you're parroting is precisely what caused the Great Depression. The Great Depression was cause more by other factors, such as highly unsafe banking practices which mixed commercial and investment assets, margin trading, etc -- those were addressed by Glass-Steagall (1933) which was dropped under Clinton because "we're too smart now to have to protect ourselves from being so dumb" which led to the Crash of 2008 (again, see The Big Short). Matters leading from the Crash to the Great Depression were made worse by the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act (1930). As Ferris Bueller would have learned if he hadn't skipped class that day:
BTW, I did learn about tariffs in 11th grade US History class. Didn't anybody else attend high school? They did? Then what's their excuse now? Rather, the big isolationist movement was nearly a decade later in the late 1930's and supported by Germany's NSDAP ("Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei ", "National-Socialist German Workers Party", AKA "Nazi"). At least many in the America First Committee were Nazi-sympathizers (most notably their principal speaker, Charles Lindbergh). In her book and pod-cast, Prequel: An American Fight Against Fascism, Rachel Maddow has reviewed a lot of the history of them and other such groups. A few days ago, she covered the history of an isolationist Senator who died in a plane crash before delivering a key speech which had been written for him by Nazi Germany, rather similar to how too many GOP members keep reciting Kremlin talking points. So, isolationism works to keep us out of world affairs so that the dictators are free to do whatever they want unimpeded. Including in the end taking us down as we stand alone without anyone to come to our rescue.
"America First" actually means "America Alone."
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6284 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Trump doesn't seem to understand the threat. He doesn't understand that Europe needs Ukraine and we need Europe. Don't make the mistake that Trump's goals are the same as the nation's. It's all part of the plan. Understanding has nothing to do with it. Of course, I'm of the opinion that Trump is a Russian asset, bought by Putin years ago. Much more than a useful idiot, possibly short of an actual agent. Everything that we see and have seen Trump do falls right in line with Putin's interests.
Trump Is Nero While Washington Burns: The Naughty Nazis song:
quote: An earworm for these times.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6284 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Tangle wrote: If you know a Canadian, I suggest you avoid him, they're looking quite angry right now. And so am I, they're screwing up the whole damn world. who is screwing up the whole world? NOT CANADA. Canada is one of the good guys trying to cope with the TrumpNAZIs deserting Ukraine and putting tariffs on their trade with the USA. I would be angry at the USA myself. It is the USA that is screwing up the whole world. Yes, that is correct. Percy and I read Tangle as saying the same thing, that the subjects indicated by "they" had changed from the one sentence to the next. Substituting explicit names for the pronouns:
Deep Structure Parse writes: If you know a Canadian, I suggest you avoid him, Canadians are looking quite angry right now. And so am I, Trump and his gang are screwing up the whole damn world.
Elbows up! (things have to be really bad for me to make a sports reference)
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6284 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Keep in mind, the americans have already invaded Canada in the 1800s. They remember, nearly all americans don't. As I recall, as would most Americans, we invaded Canada as part of the War of 1812 with the UK. Earlier, as I recall, we had invaded Canada during the Revolutionary War in part to get them to join in our rebellion, but no joy. What surprised me was learning about the Fenian Raids (1866-1871), which I learned about while researching Wikipedia about the name of a popular local Irish band, The Fenians (one of whose songs had also made us aware of the Saint Patrick's Battalion Los Sanpatricios, Irish US soldiers during the Mexican-American War who defected and fought for Mexico; we visited a memorial to them in Mexico City). Irish soldiers on both sides of the Civil War banded together after the war to turn their military training and experience to carry on the fight for the Irish cause by invading Canada, then part of British North America:
Wikipedia: Fenian Raids: Of course, we never heard of that in American history class, but a Canadian friend at church (UU) told me that they most definitely learned about it in their schools. From the quote above, I would think part of the reason it's covered is much like why we cover the Boston Tea Party and the Boston Massacre in our schools, because the Fenian Raids were a factor in the formation of Canada as a country. I would note that an acquaintance who had spent some time living and working in Canada told me that Canadians celebrate St. Patrick's Day by wearing orange. So Canada's history features invasions from the south, from us, so current affairs must look to Canadians a lot like history repeating itself. There's also "Case Red", which I read about in GAMING THE INTERWAR: HOW NAVAL WAR COLLEGE WARGAMES TILTED THE PLAYING FIELD FOR THE U.S. NAVY DURING WORLD WAR II, a thesis by a student at the Naval War College. War gaming has a long history at the Naval War College (NWC) where naval officers training for command at sea can develop their skills starting with tactical level "The Duel" between ships up to running extensive campaigns. Much of the actual Pacific War, such as "island hopping", had been worked out on the floor of NWC's Luce Hall. A similar story is how the Western Approaches Tactical Unit (WATU) used war gaming to determine how the German U-boats were attacking convoys and to develop tactics to fight them -- lots of YouTube content tells their story. The point I'm getting to from that thesis is that the NWC games after WWI started with the opponent being the UK ("Red"), the reasons being that 1) the British Navy was the most powerful navy so they'd be good to practice against and 2) at the time a conflict of national goals with the UK was possible. From another source (TV war documentary) described that we were ill-prepared to fight the German Navy because all our planning in the Atlantic had been against the British. A few years into the Interwar Period our war gaming attention shifted from "Red" to "Orange" (Japan). At the same time, US Army gaming was directed northward to Canada (pp 23-24):
quote: We should keep in mind that the military develops war plans for the purpose of preparation, not because we're intending to actually attack those countries. Rather, it's so that when problems do develop we aren't caught unprepared, but rather can take immediate action -- in contrast in Dec 1941 when Japan had seized large parts of the West Pacific our government was scrambling trying to figure out what natural resources we no longer had access to. I have to wonder how much of Trump's "sudden" aspirations for expansion stems from our library of war plans. Remember his question the first time around (from memory): "What's the good of nuclear weapons if we don't use them?" We can only look towards the next hurricane season with great trepidation. BTW, war gaming is not just for the military, but also for economic and diplomatic planning. Refer to the documentary, War Game (2024), about a simulation in which American officials deal with a coup after a disputed election (eg, Alexander Vindman, Steve Bullock, Wesley Clark, Heidi Heitkamp, Doug Jones, Bill Kristol). Obviously, other countries do the same kind of planning. Without a doubt, our allies (becoming former allies) have developed their own plans for how to handle the defection of the USA to the Axis of Evil.
Elbows up! Edited by dwise1, : added link to the PDF of the NWC thesis I cite Edited by dwise1, : Clarified description of "War Game" (2024)
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6284 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Prompted by talk of invading Canada, it's been planned before.
dwise1 writes in Message 1334: There's also "Case Red", which I read about in GAMING THE INTERWAR: HOW NAVAL WAR COLLEGE WARGAMES TILTED THE PLAYING FIELD FOR THE U.S. NAVY DURING WORLD WAR II, a thesis by a student at the Naval War College. War gaming has a long history at the Naval War College (NWC) where naval officers training for command at sea can develop their skills starting with tactical level "The Duel" between ships up to running extensive campaigns. Much of the actual Pacific War, such as "island hopping", had been worked out on the floor of NWC's Luce Hall. A similar story is how the Western Approaches Tactical Unit (WATU) used war gaming to determine how the German U-boats were attacking convoys and to develop tactics to fight them -- lots of YouTube content tells their story. The point I'm getting to from that thesis is that the NWC games after WWI started with the opponent being the UK ("Red"), the reasons being that 1) the British Navy was the most powerful navy so they'd be good to practice against and 2) at the time a conflict of national goals with the UK was possible. From another source (TV war documentary) described that we were ill-prepared to fight the German Navy because all our planning in the Atlantic had been against the British. A few years into the Interwar Period our war gaming attention shifted from "Red" to "Orange" (Japan). At the same time, US Army gaming was directed northward to Canada (pp 23-24):
quote: I just was offered this YouTube video, US Plan to Invade Canada, by The Infographics Show and posted 2 years ago. Besides War Plan Red, it also reviews past border conflicts with Canada, including a minor incident in Washington, DC, during the War of 1812.
Share and enjoy! Edited by dwise1, : subtitle
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6284 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
The Infographics Show channel on YouTube has released more content examining potential armed conflicts between the US and our former allies. I haven't watched them yet, but here's the one from a year ago, Canada's WWIII Plan, with three other videos on the side released during the past two weeks about how conflict with NATO could play out.
Breaking up out of a long-term relationship can be so messy. I'm reminded of a British comedy sketch I saw on YouTube about a decade ago. Two German soldiers in uniform are tending to their gear when one starts to ponder a question (from memory):
"I've been wondering: are we the good guys?"
"Of course we are. Why would you ask?" "I mean, look at our uniforms. They have skulls on them. Isn't that something that the bad guys would do?"
Which got me thinking the other day while driving: when is the US military going to start putting skulls on our uniforms?
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6284 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Yes, that's the one. Thanks.
Though actually, the Totenkopf ("Death's Head") was not new with the Nazis, but rather had a long history in the Prussian army as well as in other non-German militaries (including our own USMC Marine Raiders minus the crossbones). In Prussia, it started in the late 18th Century under Fredrick II ("the Great") of Prussia who created a hussar regiment (light cavalry) whose black uniforms bore a Totenkopf. From there the symbol carried on into the mid-20th Century (follow the Totenkopf Wikipedia link for more info). But still, it's the Nazis and the SS that we've come to think of first. And pirates, also in that Wikipedia article.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6284 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Last night, a majority of senators with a few republicans voted against canadian tariffs because of the specific harm of the canadian tariffs to their states. Unfortunately, it is currently doubtful the House of Representatives will also support this measure. There's a House rule that after a certain number of days (14 days as I seem to recall) a bill that hasn't been acted upon must be brought to the floor for a vote. So Speaker Johnson defined the rest of this session of Congress as one single day. That way, we'll never run through the number of days that will trigger that House rule and they'll never vote on it in the remaining nine months of this session of Congress. At least that's what a Progressive Radio host (Michelangelo Signorile I think) has explained a few times. Playing a stacked deck by House rules. With a huge dose of Worde Magick thrown in. That reminds me, wasn't there a musical play based on a porn movie about a talking johnson (AKA "penis")?
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