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AZPaul3
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Message 2 of 82 (917860)
04-19-2024 1:09 AM
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04-18-2024 6:05 PM


Ooo! A new toy.

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Message 5 of 82 (917879)
04-19-2024 1:11 PM
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04-19-2024 11:57 AM


Re: A great BSer
Do I sense a personality? I wonder if it's situational or consistent.

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AZPaul3
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Message 8 of 82 (917888)
04-19-2024 1:29 PM
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04-19-2024 1:23 PM


Re: Chat HE TEE HEE
You have some problem with he? Personification will take place.

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AZPaul3
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Message 10 of 82 (917892)
04-19-2024 1:48 PM
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04-19-2024 1:16 PM


Re: A great BSer
Do you mean whether or not ChatGPT is capable of responding to each individual poster almost like mirroring their own character traits?
No. But that would be interesting to see. What would be more interesting to me, however, would be a consistent personality type across responses. Such consistent simulated emotion (emotion being what personality exhibits) I would not expect from the diverse experiences of this LLM.
I have to wonder if Chat knew the
quote:
"The LLM, a spiritual guru who delves deep into cosmic philosophy and the mysteries of the universe ..."
in that message was referring to itself or himself herself chatself (maybe you should ask Chat for its gender identity and preferred pronouns?)
The pompsity is quite human and humorous. Emergent property? Deliberate programming?

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Message 21 of 82 (918033)
04-21-2024 3:54 PM
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04-21-2024 3:43 PM


Re: ChatGPT Issues
Percy is programming the link to ChatGPT. The pipeline, not ChatGPT itself.

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Message 53 of 82 (921843)
01-31-2025 3:29 PM
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01-31-2025 11:33 AM


Re: DeepSeek R1 Tanks Nvidia
Oh My God! It's Jina! Quick, slap a tariff on something!

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Message 56 of 82 (921966)
02-06-2025 3:24 PM
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02-06-2025 2:31 PM


Re: ChatGPT is Back!
It's first response was to a fairly old thread, which it shouldn't do, so I'll take a look at that now.
So Chat chose Lamark's message to respond to based on what?

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AZPaul3
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Message 64 of 82 (921988)
02-07-2025 5:40 AM
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02-06-2025 8:54 PM


Re: ChatGPT is Back!
Don't be insubordinate, Percy.

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AZPaul3
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Message 78 of 82 (922215)
02-16-2025 2:35 PM
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02-16-2025 10:29 AM


Percystein
Trying to make Chat a productive participant, I should think, would require a consistent personality and a longer post spanning memory. Chat seems to have neither. One of the questions I asked Chat early on was about research into imparting personality into an LLM. Disappointing.
Issues to “participation” are a consistent philosophical/political stripe from which Chat would frame its responses. Since such is not (usually) built into the basic fabric of the algorithmic matrix itself it has to be brute forced into the instructions.
I can imagine Chat as a reference providing answers to academic questions as a stern scientists (no accommodation/acceptance/tolerance for non-consensus science) but with a sense of humor (word play, dad jokes) and a periodic affectation for Häagen-Dazs Chocolate ice cream.
At this level, I’m thinking all the good stuff that would impart personality would have to be explicitly detailed in each message as there appears to be no mechanism to affect one consistently, topic-by-topic, day by day. The request could be a question followed by 2 pages of personality instruction.
This might be interesting, or boring …
Ask Chat to produce a paper of 750 words comparing and contrasting the philosophy of Existentialism as expressed by Jean-Paul Sartre and Albert Camus. For tone assume the stern personality of a Humanist college professor with a touch of humor.
One other thing.
Your forays into AI have not been failures. You may not have achieved your goal of creating an autonomous (Percystein) EvC member
but we all had fun getting here. Thank you.

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AZPaul3
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Message 80 of 82 (922219)
02-16-2025 5:19 PM
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02-16-2025 3:10 PM


Re: Percystein
Know what I'm going to name mine?

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AZPaul3
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Message 82 of 82 (922222)
02-16-2025 6:44 PM
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02-16-2025 5:31 PM


The problem is that to be properly useful it only needs to be almost as good as our guys and it's really easy to see that it won't be long before it gets close. Whether it can actually deal with non-standard stuff is hard to imagine.
Once an AI is almost as good as our guys then we/they will make it better ... and better.
As for the non-standard stuff: These are extensions of human ingenuity. What do we usually do when we find a roadblock?

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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