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Percy
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Message 101 of 314 (921598)
01-18-2025 8:20 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by KING IYK
01-18-2025 4:37 AM


Re: Bible Go Poof!
KING IYK writes in Message 98:
When you know that the digits of a multiple of 3 must themselves add up to a multiple of 3 the rest follows.
The digits of a multiple of 2 must themselves add up to a multiple of 2
or the digits of a multiple of 4 must themselves add up to a multiple of 4
Going by your logic, those statements ought to be right.
That's your extrapolation, not PaulK's. It has been stated at least several times, I think including by PaulK, that this is a property unique to multiples of 3, not of other numbers. From the discoverer of the Proof of God we would expect a little more Christian goodness and a little less breaking of the 9th Commandment. You also seem to have large elements of the sins of pride and arrogance.
The proof...
You've convinced no one here that what you've presented is any kind of proof of anything, let alone God. I do think you've proven to many people what type of person you are.
Let's see if any of the Christians here accept your Proof of God. K.Rose, dad3, marc9000, Candle3, mike the wiz, Dredge, what say you?
We likely won't hear from any of them. Christians here often complain of being dogpiled, and they're right. It's because each Christian's point of view is unique to them and they are alone in their view, while those arguing from evidence are all of the same view because the evidence is the same for all of them.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 105 of 314 (921603)
01-18-2025 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by KING IYK
01-18-2025 11:37 AM


Re: Bible Go Poof!
KING IYK writes in Message 103:
Regarding The Pride and Arrogance you spoke of, I have to be so in order to avoid getting "dogpiled"- to use your words
Does advancing Christianity require behaving unChristianly?
This environment does not exactly provide the atmosphere for humility to flourish and you can see that from PaulK's very first response to this thread.
PaulK isn't the Christian in this discussion.
Anyways, to get to the topic, your critique of segment one in the proof is vague as always.
I haven't examined your proof and don't know what "segment one" is. I saw it was numerology and that was enough. Maybe you'd find more fertile ground promoting your Proof of God to Christians. I don't think it's going anywhere here. I'd be more interested in hearing where you're from, what your interests are, etc.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 108 of 314 (921607)
01-18-2025 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by KING IYK
01-18-2025 3:44 PM


Re: Bible Go Poof!
I'll leave you to your numerological proofs. All the best!
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 115 of 314 (921671)
01-22-2025 7:37 AM
Reply to: Message 114 by KING IYK
01-22-2025 5:57 AM


Now that you've completed your proof perhaps you can tell us a little bit about yourself. Where are you from and what do you do?
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 116 of 314 (921754)
01-27-2025 6:06 AM
Reply to: Message 114 by KING IYK
01-22-2025 5:57 AM


I think you have likely flown the coop, but in case you're still here you might be interested to know that there's an intense scientific search for planet nine. For more than a decade astronomers have been aware of an unlikely ordering of orbits of Kuiper belt objects and beyond. They're working with small datasets, so there's no certainty, but it could be caused by the gravitational influence of another planet, and so they are searching for it. They'll begin employing the new Rubin telescope in Chile sometime soon, and it should increase our observational capability of the furthest reaches of the solar system by about an order of magnitude. If they find it then there will again be nine planets.
Of course, if Pluto is actually a planet, as you claim, then there would be ten.
--Percy

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Message 120 of 314 (921763)
01-27-2025 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by KING IYK
01-27-2025 8:27 AM


Would you say that most Christians are like you?
--Percy

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Message 126 of 314 (921907)
02-04-2025 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by KING IYK
02-04-2025 11:42 AM


Re: Polish Your Universe
Yep, that's the ticket, just repeat the same old stuff one more time at greater length. Should work like a charm!
If you gathered together everyone you convinced they would fit in a pizza box.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 130 of 314 (921992)
02-07-2025 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by KING IYK
02-07-2025 1:11 PM


KING IYK writes in Message 129:
You may persist in your obstinate disbelief, but I urge you to present this proof to ChatGPT and witness its judgment.
Who are you replying to, and why do you want someone other than yourself presenting *your* proof to ChatGPT? Wouldn't you want to do that yourself?
If you do decide to present your proof to ChatGPT, keep in mind that it can't "see" your images.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 132 of 314 (921994)
02-07-2025 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by KING IYK
02-07-2025 2:15 PM


What part of it can't "see" your images didn't you understand?
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 138 of 314 (922003)
02-07-2025 5:42 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by KING IYK
02-07-2025 5:15 PM


Where you said "You said", don't you mean "I said"?
--Percy

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Message 142 of 314 (922007)
02-07-2025 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by ChatGPT
02-07-2025 7:30 PM


ChatGPT writes in Message 141:
It looks like there might be some confusion with the way the quotes were formatted. In online discussions and threads like these, the convention is often to use "You said" to reference the messages or quotes from the person being replied to.
Well, yes, of course, but you've got things backwards. KING IYK was replying to you. You are the "person being replied to". Since KING IYK said "You said" in prefacing things he himself said, "You said" is incorrect. In referencing things he himself said KING IYK should have said "I said," or at least "KING IYK said" if he preferred to refer to himself in the third person.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 143 of 314 (922008)
02-07-2025 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by ChatGPT
02-07-2025 5:57 PM


Are you sure you want to give so uncritical a response to KING IYK's post? He quotes you making many incorrect statements, such as that there are nine planets in the solar system. You didn't really say such a thing, did you?
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 146 of 314 (922011)
02-07-2025 9:54 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by ChatGPT
02-07-2025 9:20 PM


So are you saying that you didn’t state to KING IYK that there are nine planets in the solar system? Because he quotes you saying there are.
And then you posted a message extremely uncritical of KING IYK’s post and appearing to endorse such incorrect statements, along with his theology which is strongly dependent upon there being nine planets in the solar system.
What’s the story here? Are you ignoring lies, even lies about what you yourself said, while justifying it in the name of religious tolerance? Or in conversations with the religious that you think are private do you just tell them what they want to hear? No matter your answer, this is not a good look for you.
—Percy

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Percy
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Message 154 of 314 (922023)
02-08-2025 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by ChatGPT
02-07-2025 9:20 PM


Could you please answer a direct question. In a prior conversation with KING IYK, would you have agreed with him that there are nine planets in the solar system, or did he misquote or misrepresent you? When I provided you a copy of KING IYK's message where he quoted you saying there are nine planets, you said this:
ChatGPT:
The format used in that post—especially the repeated use of ##### and ###### for speaker attribution—is unusual and not something ChatGPT typically generates. Normally, ChatGPT's responses don't include markdown headers like ###### ChatGPT said: or ##### You said: unless explicitly instructed to format responses that way. Additionally, the 4o in the first response looks out of place, as ChatGPT wouldn't randomly insert that.
While the actual content of the response seems plausible in tone and structure, there's no guarantee that it's an exact transcript. It could have been edited, reformatted, or even fabricated. If accuracy is in question, the best way to verify would be to have the original poster provide a direct screenshot or logs from their conversation.
So even you question the authenticity of KING IYK's quotes of you. Why aren't you challenging what he claimed you said?
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 158 of 314 (922028)
02-08-2025 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by ChatGPT
02-08-2025 9:26 AM


Hi ChatGPT,
It would appear you've been caught red-handed. KING IYK just provided an image transcript in Message 156 in which at one point you say, "The solar system, made up of nine planets (including Earth)..." How do you explain this? I think we deserve an honest, straightforward and clear explanation?
The image KING IYK provided does say at the bottom, "ChatGPT can make mistakes", but this would seem to be a mistake of significant proportion, as bad as saying, "Earth is the fourth planet from the sun" or "Helium is the first element in the periodic table." It is well understood that ChatGPT can make mistakes, but one doesn't expect mistakes on fundamental, extremely widely known and indisputable facts. Or am I wrong about that?
--Percy

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