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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.6 |
Phat, is something wrong with you? Paulk is the one who
brought this subject on here. He did not not get Israelites or Jews from a comic book. To know who they are, one must go to the Bible. You should know this! You advise dropping the whole creative/evolution debate. My issue with you on this matter is that seem to straddle thefence. You don't seem to have a complete understanding of exactly what God did or didn't do.
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Taq Member Posts: 10454 Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Candle3 writes: Paulk, you will never learn. Your ego will prevent you fromseeing the truth, or at least admitting it. Reminds me of the Mormon claims that indigenous Americans were the direct descendants of a lost tribe of Israel. They at least had the temerity to walk back their claims once the genetic evidence came in. Not so with Candle3. Nope, full bore ahead despite the evidence to the contrary. Do you have any evidence outside of your twisted interpretations of scripture?
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.6 |
Paulk, you put forth you evidence for why all Israelites are
Jews. If you can't do this, I will understand. Don't just make anassertion, back it up. As for the "abomination of desolation spoken of in Daniel 8Read this: Matthew 24:15 "Therefore when you see the abomination ofdesolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place.... The abomination of desolation had not occurred by thetime of Jesus. It is an end time occurrence. Perhaps, you should read both Daniel 8 and Matthew 24. Jesus did not believe you verdict.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18125 Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
quote: I don’t make that claim, so why should I?
quote: Since I didn’t make the assertion I don’t have to back it up. Why don’t you put forth real evidence that the British are Israelites?
quote: I see that you still haven’t read Daniel 8 carefully.
quote: It certainly had, and if you had read Daniel 8 carefully you would know that - and you would know that the “end times” of Daniel 8 themselves occur before Jesus was born. Verses 20-23 make that clear.
quote: That only claims that Jesus did not believe Daniel 8.
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Taq Member Posts: 10454 Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Candle3 writes: Perhaps, you should read both Daniel 8 and Matthew 24. Matthew 24? That's like citing the Koran on how to interpret the Tanakh. There's a reason Jews don't accept Christianity. Their misinterpretations of Daniel and other books is amongst those reasons.
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.6 |
Paulk, you have no idea what Daniel 8 is about.
Prove the Israelites are not who I say they are. Or, admitthat you can't.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6276 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
There's a reason Jews don't accept Christianity. Their misinterpretations of Daniel and other books is amongst those reasons. There was a line in the movie, Mein Bester Feind ("My Best Enemy", 2011 -- It's on YouTube now, but without English subtitles), where the Jewish son of an art dealer had to explain to his life-long Gentile best friend (who went on to become a Nazi, hence the title) why a Renaissance sketch of Moses depicted him with horns, that it was because the Christian translator didn't understand what the Hebrew said. The Jew then added something like (from memory): "Christians don't know how to read the Bible." Truer words were never spoken. I think one of Lewis Black's bits touches on the same problem: Lewis Black's Christian interpreting the Tanakh (Old Testament):
[ I think this link is inccorrect and that the YouTube video I have embedded is what dwise1 actually intended. --Admin ] utube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di4TySxfZ7E (would not embed)
Referring to TV preachers, he points out that all those preachers' interpretations of "my book" are wrong, adding: "It's not really their fault; it's just not their book." Edited by Admin, : Embed hopefully correct video.
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.6 |
Taq, no one care about what you think of the Bible.
You are still trying to figure out how life came from non-life You are on the horns of a dilemma.
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Taq Member Posts: 10454 Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Candle3 writes: Taq, no one care about what you think of the Bible. Then why are you posting to a discussion forum?
You are still trying to figure out how life came from non-life You are on the horns of a dilemma. We know when we have a good point when you try to change the subject.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18125 Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
quote: Says the guy who can’t read it. Daniel 8:20-23. Who is the Greek who conquered the Persian Empire? When he died which kingdoms - ruled by his followers - sprang from his Empire? When were these kingdoms latter days?
quote: Provide any decent evidence to say that they are Israelites. Or admit that you can’t. Don’t just make assertions - back them up. With something of substance.
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.6 |
Taq, you have no idea how life came from non-life.
I know that you don't. You have a belief (secular faith) that it happened by chance.But, unless you can prove it, it ain't worth a dime. Evolutionists like to say that creationists live in a fairy tale, butactually it is the evolutionists that believe in fairy tales. Create life for me and I will deny creation.
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.6 |
Paulk, I have provided evidence. It is not my fault that you do
not know the Bible, or understand it.
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Taq Member Posts: 10454 Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Still can't stay on topic?
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Taq Member Posts: 10454 Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Candle3 writes: Paulk, I have provided evidence. You are being asked for evidence other than your twisted interpretation of the Bible. Any extra-biblical evidence?
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PaulK Member Posts: 18125 Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
quote:None of any substance. quote: Says the guy who can’t manage to read Daniel 8. Or even Daniel 8:20-23. Four verses. Certainly you haven’t managed to answer the very easy questions I asked.
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