|
Register | Sign In |
|
QuickSearch
EvC Forum active members: 43 (9234 total) |
| |
ChemEngrMBA | |
Total: 921,698 Year: 2,020/6,935 Month: 144/306 Week: 18/58 Day: 0/5 Hour: 0/0 |
Thread ▼ Details |
|
Thread Info
|
|
|
Author | Topic: The Second Trump Presidency | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 18145 Joined: Member Rating: 6.2 |
quote: I wasn’t talking about a problem with the Affordable Care Act- I was talking about Trump’s broken promises to replace it with something better.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 18145 Joined: Member Rating: 6.2 |
quote: I understand that you are too stupid to read in context and understand that I was simply pointing out facts about Trump. And you. And I guess that racism is so normalised in your circles that calling it out seems wrong to you. Hardly a surprise.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 18145 Joined: Member Rating: 6.2 |
quote: It’s hardly preposterous since the insurrection occurred, the insurrectionists were encouraged by Trump - and Trump is still talking about pardoning them. If the charges have not been raised it is simply because Trump managed enough plausible deniability to make conviction difficult.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Percy Member Posts: 23369 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
K.Rose writes in Message 116: Where have you been, PaulK? Crying “RACIST” is soooo 2020, a gasping pejorative in want of a cogent argument. I know, right? Like saying I have brown eyes is so last millennium. Can't anyone come up with something new? Though, come to think of it, my eyes are still brown, even after all these years. And Trump, having established his racist bonafides with his discriminative rental policies and with the Central Park 5 case way back in the 1980's, is still a racist. --Percy
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
dronestar Member Posts: 1508 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
kr writes: I'm still optimistic . . . Yes you are, . . . and also a rapist-supporter. No matter how many interesting or noble things you do in life, they will all be totally eclipsed by you supporting a rapist. Don't worry though, you can still aim higher in life, . . . if Jeffrey Epstein's records are ever fully released, you can then be known as a child-rapist-supporter. That would be a feather in your cap, eh?
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
dwise1 Member Posts: 6292 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
I wasn’t talking about a problem with the Affordable Care Act- I was talking about Trump’s broken promises to replace it with something better. Yeah, ain't that the truth though? During the 2016 campaign, he kept boasting that he had a plan that would replace the ACA and it would only cost us $18 per month! Of course, he couldn't just present it then and there because Hillary would steal the plan from him, so we'd have to wait until after he won the election (like so many of his other promises, like having a brilliant plan to stop an armed conflict and save so many lives, but he'd only ever present it if he won so let those innocent people continue to die, which is also like the "hundreds of thousands" of Americans being killed by immigrants but he killed the bi-partisan bill that would have stopped that "slaughter" thus causing even more thousands to die until Biden was out of office). But then when he won in 2016, no plan. But he insisted that he did have a plan and would present it in two weeks. Two weeks later he pushed the date back another two weeks. Again and again and again. And still no plan was ever presented. Now EIGHT YEARS LATER, still no plan that would replace the ACA. Now it's "I have concepts of a plan". Eight years to work on those "concepts" and still nothing? What kind of low-grade morons would ever believe that there will ever be a Trump plan? Besides getting rid of Obamacare and replacing it with nothing? Reminds me of an old dirty joke from the late 60's (which has recently resurfaced as a lawyer joke, but I'll borrow part of that new build-up as per the Rabbi Kalir Theory of Joke Telling):
quote: That original punchline describes Trump to a "T". All he does is deliver a sales pitch but never delivers on any of his promises. All he does is sell us a bill of goods (AKA "a pig in a poke"). All talk and no goods. And his followers still have never caught on to his grift.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 18145 Joined: Member Rating: 6.2 |
quote: He did eventually admit that he couldn’t work out a real plan because it was too difficult (not that the difficulty of healthcare reform was exactly a secret). But then he promised a new plan in the 2020 campaign. You would have thought that 4 years would have been enough to sort that one out, but apparently not.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
dwise1 Member Posts: 6292 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
But then he promised a new plan in the 2020 campaign. You would have thought that 4 years would have been enough to sort that one out, but apparently not. That's the point. His only concern is to make the big announcement of a product, but the actual delivery of that product is not his concern. He was there for the big announcement of each new Trump "enterprise", but from that point on he was MIA (except to collect his cut of the grift). He would be there for the ground-breaking of a new factory to bring back domestic jobs so that he could get the credit, but then he'd allow that work to be sent overseas; he got what he wanted. Related was his pressuring President Zelenskyi to announce an investigation into the Bidens, not to conduct any actual investigation. I think the expression is "all show, no go." Then compare Trump's plethora of "infrastructure weeks" in which he promised to build/repair infrastructure, none of which got past the announcement, to Biden just getting the job done. Of course, as we see the fruits of Biden's accomplishment, Trump will try to take all the credit. The lousy bum!
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
K.Rose Member Posts: 256 From: Michigan Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
....and on Earth peace, good will toward men.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8748 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,” -Daniel Dennett Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! |
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
dronestar Member Posts: 1508 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
quote: ![]() Sayeth the rape-supporter.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
dwise1 Member Posts: 6292 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
K.Rose writes: ...and on Earth peace, good will toward men. But does it really say that? For that, King James Version will be of no help, but rather you would need to go back to the "original Greek", but even that will not help since the original manuscripts do not agree. Plus, on top of that there's always fallible human interpretation and the work of editors who, as Edgar Rice Burroughs remarked, "would change even the Word of God." The key word there in Luke 2:14 for "good will" is ευδοκια, which can also mean "God's favor". But there's also the issue of case which determines how a word is used in a sentence. Some manuscripts say "ευδοκια", which is in the nominative case, but others have it in the genitive, "ευδοκιας", to indicate possessive. Which case you use makes a lot of difference. From Wikipedia's Annunciation to the shepherds:
quote: So, to follow the more ancient texts, that promised peace is not for all of us, but rather only for those whom God favors. Since Christian Nationals (of whom I suspect K.Rose is one) and MAGAts (which he has demonstrated himself to be) think, speak, and act contrary to Christian teachings (indeed, frequently in direct opposition to those teachings), they would find themselves to be excluded from God's favor ... please excuse me, they exclude themselves from God's favor. Thus the Soup Nazi would have to tell them, "No peace for you!" Sorry, guy, but it's not my call. Rather, it's yours.
PS Actually, I was thinking more about Christian Nationalists, Trump MAGAts, et al. as NOT being "men of good will", but rather nobody could ever possibly mistake them for being of good will. And hence their own mean-spiritedness excludes them from that promised peace. Thus the Soup Nazi would have to tell them, "No peace for you!" Edited by dwise1, : Removal of footnote markers from quoted text Edited by dwise1, : Corrected spelling of ευδοκια . Sorry, I had written it from memory decades ago.
Also added thought in the postscript.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Percy Member Posts: 23369 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.0
|
Trump's constant stream of denigration, insult, aggresion and ill will has deadened us to the sheer inappropriateness of it all. Nearly everything Trump has done since the election has been horrible (except for proposing the elimination of the twice-annual time change, and maybe he'll get rid of the penny, too), and he's not even president yet. He's threatened allies and enemies alike with retributive tariffs. He's pressuring Denmark to hand over Greenland, for Panama to surrender the canal unless they lower prices, and for Canada to sign on as the 51st state. He promised to use his Justice Department to go after political enemies. On Christmas Eve he vowed to still execute federal death row inmates whose death sentences Biden just commuted to life in prison.
But what's worse than all that is that he's normalized for all of us animosity and cruelty and hate and death and relentless pursuit of self-interest. We no longer look at his statements and say, "That's totally unacceptable." Now at most it's just, "There he goes again." We've resigned ourselves to Trump is just who he is and there's nothing we can do about it. He can only be endured, not changed. If Trump has taught non-MAGA people anything it's hopelessness. --Percy
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Percy Member Posts: 23369 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
News outlets are reporting today that Trump's senior border advisor says he's bringing back family detention. Illegal immigrants with children born in the U.S. will be deported, and they must make the choice on whether to bring their children with them. Homan said, "You knew you were in the country illegally and chose to have a child. So you put your family in that position."
When confronted with a fait accompli most governments will behave in a compassionate and humane manner, but not the Trump administration. Trump himself calls Illegal immigrants a scourge that must be eliminated. His language often echos German antisemitism from the years leading up to and including WWII, dehumanizing illegal immigrants just as the Nazis did to the Jews. --Percy
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
dwise1 Member Posts: 6292 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Homan said, "You knew you were in the country illegally and chose to have a child. So you put your family in that position." But the Republican position is that having a child is not a choice. So how can you hold someone responsible for something over which they have no choice? Oh yeah. They're also Über-"true"-Christians, which answers that question. [voice=Emily Litella]Never mind.[/voice]
|
|
|
Do Nothing Button
Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved
Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2025