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Topic: Why is Biden still the President
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.1
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Message 61 of 89 (920448)
10-09-2024 7:31 AM
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Reply to: Message 60 by xongsmith
10-09-2024 12:13 AM
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Re: About Cognitive Impairment
As it is based on the opinion of a person I know nothing about, no. Let's look at it. Forbes is left of center? Fox is more reliable than MSNBC? Who paid over $700 million for lying? CNN skews left? DailyBeast strong left and less reliable than Fox?The rankings are random and in many cases unjustifiable and meaningless.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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xongsmith
Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: 01-01-2009
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Message 62 of 89 (920452)
10-09-2024 10:48 AM
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Reply to: Message 61 by Theodoric
10-09-2024 7:31 AM
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Re: Media Bias Chart
The FOX Channel is way down to the bottom right. i'm still looking for Forbes. Take the Y axis: if the bottom horizontal line is 0.0, then Humans Are Free is at 0.0, BEFORE IT"S NEWS is at call it -5. FOX Channel is at 19. FOX News web is at 35. FOX and Friends is at 31. MSNBC TV is at 34, MSNBC web is at 37. CNN TV is at 38, CNN web is at 44. where is Forbes? Ahah! my copy has the word STAT covering Forbes and some others. Edited by xongsmith, : FOUND IT
"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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xongsmith
Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: 01-01-2009
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Message 63 of 89 (920453)
10-09-2024 11:09 AM
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Reply to: Message 61 by Theodoric
10-09-2024 7:31 AM
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Re: Media Bias Chart
WTF is going on? Does your view of the chart have "bellingcat" at the top center (0 X coordinate) with the character 'i' an upside down question mark? My downloaded copy does not, but the linked image does. My downloaded copy has "STAT" blocking Forbes, but the linked image does not. WTF? Edited by xongsmith, : keyboard still misbehaving, fixed subtitle yet again
"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 6.1
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Message 64 of 89 (920454)
10-09-2024 11:19 AM
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Reply to: Message 63 by xongsmith
10-09-2024 11:09 AM
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Re: Media Bias Chart
I rest my case
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?
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xongsmith
Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: 01-01-2009
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Message 65 of 89 (920455)
10-09-2024 11:19 AM
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Reply to: Message 63 by xongsmith
10-09-2024 11:09 AM
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Re: Media Bias Chart
and the bottom right is also screwed up. there is no BEFORE IT'S NEWS. instead the linked image shows Alex Jones which my downloaded copy does not have. and FOX Channel is now up to 22. The chart is changing as we post!
"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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xongsmith
Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: 01-01-2009
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Message 66 of 89 (920456)
10-09-2024 11:26 AM
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Reply to: Message 64 by Theodoric
10-09-2024 11:19 AM
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Re: Media Bias Chart
Theo writes I rest my case What case? we're quibbling over details. your opinion, my opinion, his opinion. the changing internet's opinion.
"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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xongsmith
Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: 01-01-2009
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Message 67 of 89 (920457)
10-09-2024 11:29 AM
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Reply to: Message 66 by xongsmith
10-09-2024 11:26 AM
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Re: Media Bias Chart
certainly your Fox is more reliable than MSNBC? is erroneous. 29 (was 34) is higher than 22 (was 19). Seems the internet feedback is adding more than 1 man's opinion. Edited by xongsmith, : watch LIVE chart change before your eyes
"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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xongsmith
Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: 01-01-2009
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Message 68 of 89 (920458)
10-09-2024 11:47 AM
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Reply to: Message 67 by xongsmith
10-09-2024 11:29 AM
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Re: Media Bias Chart LIVE
Interactive Media Bias Chart | Ad Fontes Media watch this LIVE changing as we read. and now we have a scale from -30 to +30 on the X axis, 0 to +64 on the Y axis. seems FOX Channel has been buried under many others.
"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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Taq
Member Posts: 10299 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 7.1
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Message 69 of 89 (920459)
10-09-2024 11:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 58 by xongsmith
10-08-2024 10:24 PM
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Re: About Cognitive Impairment
xongsmith writes: i have an old chart, if I could post a picture. I suspect that accepting facts as real would put a media outlet in the "hyper-partisan left" category.
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xongsmith
Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: 01-01-2009
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Message 70 of 89 (920460)
10-09-2024 11:58 AM
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Reply to: Message 56 by Phat
10-08-2024 7:25 PM
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Re: The point of Media Bias
PHAT writes The conservative media is *Not* most of the media! while individually this may be true, the gist was more at what most people are watching/reading. FOX Channel is the most popular. Sadly. Rupert Murdoch should be drawn and quartered on LIVE TV for the damage he has done to the world!
"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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Percy
Member Posts: 22947 From: New Hampshire Joined: 12-23-2000 Member Rating: 6.9
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Message 71 of 89 (920461)
10-09-2024 12:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 48 by GDR
10-08-2024 2:28 PM
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GDR writes in Message 48: The point again is that I would argue that he was doing badly in the polls because many people saw him as being cognitively impaired. Can you point to a poll that used the term "cognitively impaired"?
Neither one of us know and we are both expressing our opinion. I looked pretty hard and couldn't find a poll that employed the term "cognitively impaired," so I don't think I'm only expressing my opinion when I say no such poll was conducted. Polls inquired about the level of concern about Biden's vitality, cognitive health, and his ability to serve another term. Oh, except for one poll, which did find that most Americans believe Biden should resign the presidency immediately:
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A majority of Americans agree that US President Joe Biden should immediately resign presidency, according to a survey conducted by the US public opinion firm Rasmussen Reports. The survey said that 52% of the polled agreed that if Biden cannot run for a second term, he cannot remain president and "should resign from office now".
The poll is from TASS, the Russian News Agency. Seems to echo your sentiments precisely. Article: Most Americans believe Biden should resign presidency now — poll --Percy
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dwise1
Member Posts: 6076 Joined: 05-02-2006 Member Rating: 7.2
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Message 72 of 89 (920462)
10-09-2024 12:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 71 by Percy
10-09-2024 12:07 PM
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Did GDR have to pay extra to get his opinion translated from the original Russian? Или он говорит по-русский? (Even if you couldn't read that, I'm sure GDR can. Or not, since Putin is finding it harder and harder to find good quality useful idiots.) Edited by dwise1, : Added hyphen on the advice of my Translate app.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 9.7
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Message 73 of 89 (920463)
10-09-2024 12:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 71 by Percy
10-09-2024 12:07 PM
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A majority of Americans agree that US President Joe Biden should immediately resign presidency, according to a survey conducted by the US public opinion firm Rasmussen Reports. The survey said that 52% of the polled agreed that if Biden cannot run for a second term, he cannot remain president and "should resign from office now".
I notice that the people calling for Biden to resign, are all the usual suspects who figure that's a slick way to limit Harris to a single term as President.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3 If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq
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Taq
Member Posts: 10299 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 7.1
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Tanypteryx writes: I notice that the people calling for Biden to resign, are all the usual suspects who figure that's a slick way to limit Harris to a single term as President. Stepping in to fill Biden's shoes would not count towards the 2 term limit. LBJ could have run for a 2nd full term after serving 1 partial (JFK) and 1 full term, but chose not to. LBJ had the foresight that Biden lacked.
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xongsmith
Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: 01-01-2009
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still president thread
if Kamala were to take over now, she would still be eligible for 2 terms, like LBJ was.
"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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