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Tanypteryx
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Message 4 of 63 (919307)
07-06-2024 7:59 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by nwr
07-06-2024 7:41 PM


I always took it as obvious that the Noah's ark story was fiction
Yep, I quit believing when I was 12 or so but my mom made me keep going to church longer.
As a kid I always thought they were fiction just like you.
I have never been able to wrap my head around grownups actually believing any of it!

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 11 of 63 (919344)
07-07-2024 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Zucadragon
07-06-2024 11:01 PM


But it's not that, God decided humanity was wicked, and so all get killed. What is the point here?
It does seem a bit extreme. This god character is supposed to be all powerful, but it couldn't punish the actual wicked individual humans, instead it's so incompetent at being all powerful that it wipes out all living organisms. It hears every thought but then blames everyone. And it's overriding message is "love me or I will incinerate you for eternity." My response is: "go fuck yourself and take your angels with you!"

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 41 of 63 (919457)
07-11-2024 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Phat
07-11-2024 12:08 AM


Re: No Creator Owes Anyone Anything
33 writes:
No Creator owes you anything. Grow up.
That's true. It's funny though, that particular god of yours, the one in the bible, gives the impression of wanting to teach humanity it's brand of morality. One of the most effective methods of teaching is by example and the god of the bible is a bloody monstrous tyrant who claims to love us. That's the morality that christian and jewish religions have drummed into their believers for thousands of years, violence and greed and oppressions.
Sorry, but you can never convince anyone that drowning every living thing is a rational solution for misbehavior by some members of one species! This story is just plain stupid! A being powerful enough to create a planet and then creating life, would fix it rather than destroy it all.
If the god you believe in was real, I would try to get as far away as possible. The god character in your story is playing the role of evil villain, not benevolent parent in my opinion. And benevolent parent is exactly the god portrayed in the bible, except when violence is required. The god who created everything can't cure a few people and loses controls and kills everything, but without leaving a single trace of evidence of this global killing event, nothing, none.
No Creator owes you anything. Grow up.
Yep, it's as if no creator exists. None of us can see, hear, touch or in any way detect or interact in any way with your god. We can live our lives as if your god is imaginary and never expect it to contact us and never expect help if we ask for it.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 55 of 63 (919502)
07-13-2024 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Phat
07-12-2024 7:35 PM


Re: No Creator Owes Anyone Anything
Phat writes in Message 49:
You elitists are so damn literal that you try and extrapolate a character out of the book as if everything in the book were made up. Which, if true, only puts you back in the group that thinks that no gods exist and that the whole book was made up!
The whole book is made up and there's no need for extrapolation, the character of god is laid out in incredible detail throughout the book and the god of the bible is a bloody monstrous tyrant!
None of you will ever believe what I say or take me seriously.
That's primarily because nothing you say is believable.
And you wonder in awe why I don't respect your biased education. All I can say is stay tuned.
Mostly, what I wonder in awe of is your lack of self awareness.
but one thing I know is that the people will never have the power to get the rich to pay their fair share
You are correct as long as the wealthy can buy corrupt republican politicians.
nor will you ever fully weaponize the justice system or the US Dollar.
I assume from this disinformation that you think holding criminals and insurrectionists and corrupt criminal Presidents accountable is weaponizing the the justice system, but Trump calling for ALL of his critics to be locked up and in some cases executed is fair justice.
You might see that I knew what I was talking about in a year or two.
That would depend on what you said, but as I have noted before, almost all of the content you write is empty filler without any actual meaning.
What you write here provides a pretty clear indication that you support all the policies and threats from Trump and the republicans and ironically if those people win in November all your fears about the dollar and the economy and society will happen along with the probable collapse of civilization.
Either way, I will never see eye to eye with most of you; in your mind, its my fault.
Yeah, I will never support tyranny! You need to read the whole PROJECT 2025.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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