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Tanypteryx
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Message 47 of 98 (918603)
05-14-2024 2:52 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by candle2
05-13-2024 11:03 AM


Re: FYI
candle2 writes in Message 43:
It is impossible for men, who lean on their own frail understanding, to say what happened billions of years ago.
Interestingly, astronomers using observatories in orbit and on mountaintops and in many other locations around the planet are looking at the whole electromagnetic spectrum from radio waves to gamma rays and there are some really extreme new telescopes coming on line...and you know what?
They are all collecting light from galaxies a billion light years from Earth and many times that distance, this is really extreme science and guess what Sherlock? Light from a billion light years away shows astronomers what the Universe looked like a billion years ago and so on
Astronomers are collecting data from telescopes at unprecedented rates and they are also publishing their observations AND THOUSANDS OF BEAUTIFUL PHOTOGRAPHS ALL OVER THE INTERNET AND CALENDARS!
Aren't you paying attention? This is as in your face real science as you can find anywhere on this planet that humans are actually doing!
They show us exactly how galaxies looked billions of years in the past and your religion is a poor excuse for your ignorance about how science works. Your god in the gaps fades into silly insignificance in the immensity of the Universe and it is silly for your religion to pretend your god created the Universe
On the human scale I fear that your religion will intentionally incinerate the only planet known to have a biosphere!

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 50 of 98 (918616)
05-15-2024 11:57 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by candle2
05-15-2024 1:56 PM


Re: FYI
Good Grief, you are really trying to bullshit a bunch of science nerds? Sometimes it's better to be thought a fool for your silence, than to open your mouth a remove all doubt.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 59 of 98 (918701)
05-18-2024 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by candle2
05-15-2024 1:56 PM


Re: FYI
candle2 writes in Message 48:
Red shift is also questionable.​
Well, your side has had well over 100 years to provide any evidence that refutes Red Shift and so far nothing. One hundred+ years and nothing.
candle2 writes in Message 48:
It is nor scientific to assume that light had always traveled at the same speed.
That's why science uses supporting evidence rather than assumptions from creationists.
candle2 writes in Message 48:
In Isaiah 42:5 God states that He stretched out the heavens.
Spouting crap from a bunch of bronze age goat herders who wrote as if the whole planet was an area of only a couple thousand square miles.
Your ignorance is stunning!
candle2 writes in Message 48:
Science and Creation are extremely compatable.
Not according to science.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 62 of 98 (918712)
05-19-2024 8:00 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by candle2
05-19-2024 5:33 PM


Re: FYI
candle2 writes in Message 61:
while stating that your ancestors several generations back were breeding with chimps.
You should be ashamed of yourself telling lies about me, right here in front of me.
I have never said anything about any species but chimps mating with chimps.
You are a liar.
candle2 writes in Message 61:
The sixth generation from Adam (Tubal-Cain) was melting iron. Genesis 4:22. Tubal-Cain. Tubal-Cain was a descendant of Cain.

After the global flood, Noah's descendants no longer had iron to use for weapons. They were forced to make weapons from rocks.

They made arrowheads, specs, needles, axes, scrappers, etc, from obsidian, flint, and other material.
You are just making stuff up that you cannot possibly have any knowledge of.
candle2 writes in Message 61:
Archeologists looked at the arrowheads and such, and with excitement, proclaimed that they were from primitives who lived 100,000 years ago.
I think you saw this in some crappy potboiler from the 1920s.
candle2 writes in Message 61:
They got it wrong because they discounted what the Bible had to say. That is not very scientific.
What is completely unscientific is making up crap about fictitious archeologists and the bible.
candle2 writes in Message 61:
I am the only one on this forum to see things differently than most everyone else. And, you wish to silence me.
It's simpler to ignore you.
candle2 writes in Message 61:
You talk about science having all the answers. The truth is that science is very limited.
You just keep telling blatant lies about me right to my face.
Science is a method for discovering how things work in this Universe, it is not a list of facts. Those are called data. No scientist claims science has all the answers about any subject.
The whole reason people become scientists is because we want to find out the answers to all the things we don't know yet.
candle2 writes in Message 61:
The truth is that science is very limited.
Compared to what there is still left to learn about the Universe this is very true, but luckily knowledge is cumulative!
candle2 writes in Message 61:
Tell me why there is anything at all, when without a Creator, there should be nothing.
I do not accept your premise about a creator being necessary.
candle2 writes in Message 61:
Tell me how consciousness began. Prove to me.
Science has no clear answer about that as far as I am aware. Prove "what" to you?
candle2 writes in Message 61:
If you do not know the answers to these question, then you actually know as little as first-graders.
So far, you have failed to demonstrate that you, or anyone else knows the answers to your questions.
candle2 writes in Message 61:
I am not trying to be a smart-aleck, I am simply asking for your proof.
No, what you are trying to be is a bald faced liar.
You lied about me saying things I never said or implied and that no scientist says or implies and then ask me to prove it!!!!
I made your lies large bold and yellow so everyone can see them clearly!

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 86 of 98 (918844)
06-04-2024 11:23 AM


Are the lights still on?
I was wondering if this place would shut down first or participation would just fade away...

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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Tanypteryx
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From: Oregon, USA
Joined: 08-27-2006
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Message 96 of 98 (918921)
06-08-2024 8:25 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by Percy
06-08-2024 7:57 PM


Re: FYI
I'm sorry that your father murdered your mother
Interesting that God wouldn't save his mom.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
Why should anyone debate someone who doesn't know the subject? -- AZPaul3
If you are going to argue that evolution is false because it resembles your own beliefs then perhaps you should rethink your argument. - - Taq

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