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Message 2 of 15 (917855)
04-18-2024 9:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by dwise1
04-18-2024 5:19 PM


That's an interesting mystery. I don't have time to look at it just now, but have you tried [code]? When I wrap it around your text it looks like this:
          ________________________________
         /                                \        ___________________
         | Jawed Vertebrates              |       /                   \
         |                                |       |   Jawless         |
         |    (Bony Fish)                 |       |     Vertebrates   |
         |    (Cartilaginous Fish)        |       |                   |
         |  ____________________________  |       |                   |
         | /                            \ |       |                   |
         | | Terrestrial Vertebrates    | |       | (Cyclostomes --   |
         | |                            | |       |   e.g. Lampreys)  |
         | |  (Amphibia)                | |       \___________________/
         | |  ________________________  | |
         | | /                        \ | |
         | | | Amniota                | | |
         | | |                        | | |
         | | |   (Reptiles)           | | |
         | | |                        | | |
         | | |   (Mammals)            | | |
         | | |                        | | |
         | | \________________________/ | |
         | \____________________________/ |
         \________________________________/
Not surprisingly, this does indeed yield a phylogenetic tree as follows:

   Cyclostomes    Bony Fish  Cart. Fish   Amphibia   Reptiles   Mammals
   -----------    ---------  ----------   --------   --------   -------
       \                \      /              \           \      /
        \                \    /                \           \    /
         \                \  /                  \           \  /
          \                \/                    \           \/
           \                \                     \          /
            \                \                     \        /   Amniota
             \                \                     \      /
              \                \                     \    /
               \                \                     \  /
                \                \                     \/
                 \                \                    /
  Jawless         \                \                  /  Terrestrial Vert.
    Vertebrates    \                \________________/
                    \               /
                     \             /   Jawed Vertebrates
                      \           /
                       \_________/

                       Vertebrates

Furthermore, on page 287 Denton applies the same technique to primates:

   ________________________________
  /                                \        ___________________
  | Gibbon                         |       /                   \
  |                                |       |   Monkeys         |
  |  ____________________________  |       |                   |
  | /  _________    ___________  \ |       |                   |
  | | /         \  /           \ | |       \___________________/
  | | |         |  |           | | |
  | | | Apes    |  |  Man      | | |
  | | |         |  |           | | |
  | | \_________/  \___________/ | |
  | \____________________________/ |
  \________________________________/

From which we get the following phylogenetic tree:

 Monkeys    Gibbon     Apes    Man
 -------    ------     ----    ---
     \         \         \      /
      \         \         \    /
       \         \         \  /
        \         \         \/
         \         \        /
          \         \      /
           \         \    /
            \         \  /
             \         \/
              \        /
               \      /
                \    /
                 \  /
                  \/
Is that closer to what you'd like to see?
<pre> should work just as well, I'll figure out what's going on when I get a chance.

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Message 4 of 15 (917862)
04-19-2024 6:39 AM
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04-18-2024 9:26 PM


Your text that I placed between [code] dBCodes looks the same in Emacs:
For me, <pre> is screwing up (which I'll fix), but [code] works fine and looks the same as in Emacs. I also looked at it on my phone and observed the same thing. Can you tell me a little more, like which browser you're using?

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Message 8 of 15 (918479)
05-05-2024 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by dwise1
04-19-2024 10:58 AM


Space Problem "Fixed"
<pre> has been disabled. It will no longer have any effect. Please use [code] instead. You'll have to do a hard reload to see [code] displayed properly as there is some new CSS. [code] uses the Menlo font, which is very similar to Courier New.
If you try to use <pre> it will be ignored, for example:
________________________________
/ \ ___________________
| Jawed Vertebrates | / \
| | | Jawless |
| (Bony Fish) | | Vertebrates |
| (Cartilaginous Fish) | | |
| ____________________________ | | |
| / \ | | |
| | Terrestrial Vertebrates | | | (Cyclostomes -- |
| | | | | e.g. Lampreys) |
| | (Amphibia) | | \___________________/
| | ________________________ | |
| | / \ | |
| | | Amniota | | |
| | | | | |
| | | (Reptiles) | | |
| | | | | |
| | | (Mammals) | | |
| | | | | |
| | \________________________/ | |
| \____________________________/ |
\________________________________/
But if you use [code] it will look like this:
          ________________________________
         /                                \        ___________________
         | Jawed Vertebrates              |       /                   \
         |                                |       |   Jawless         |
         |    (Bony Fish)                 |       |     Vertebrates   |
         |    (Cartilaginous Fish)        |       |                   |
         |  ____________________________  |       |                   |
         | /                            \ |       |                   |
         | | Terrestrial Vertebrates    | |       | (Cyclostomes --   |
         | |                            | |       |   e.g. Lampreys)  |
         | |  (Amphibia)                | |       \___________________/
         | |  ________________________  | |
         | | /                        \ | |
         | | | Amniota                | | |
         | | |                        | | |
         | | |   (Reptiles)           | | |
         | | |                        | | |
         | | |   (Mammals)            | | |
         | | |                        | | |
         | | \________________________/ | |
         | \____________________________/ |
         \________________________________/
With [code] you can use scrollbars. For instance, [code=10] displays only 10 lines of text with scrollbars:
          ________________________________
         /                                \        ___________________
         | Jawed Vertebrates              |       /                   \
         |                                |       |   Jawless         |
         |    (Bony Fish)                 |       |     Vertebrates   |
         |    (Cartilaginous Fish)        |       |                   |
         |  ____________________________  |       |                   |
         | /                            \ |       |                   |
         | | Terrestrial Vertebrates    | |       | (Cyclostomes --   |
         | |                            | |       |   e.g. Lampreys)  |
         | |  (Amphibia)                | |       \___________________/
         | |  ________________________  | |
         | | /                        \ | |
         | | | Amniota                | | |
         | | |                        | | |
         | | |   (Reptiles)           | | |
         | | |                        | | |
         | | |   (Mammals)            | | |
         | | |                        | | |
         | | \________________________/ | |
         | \____________________________/ |
         \________________________________/
You'll need to do a hard reload because there have been CSS changes. Please let me know if you have any questions or issues.

--Percy
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Message 10 of 15 (918488)
05-05-2024 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by dwise1
05-05-2024 12:03 PM


Re: Space Problem "Fixed"
Once you've done a hard reload for one tab, it's done for all tabs open on that website. But only for that browser. A hard reload for a website in Edge wouldn't affect FireFox.
A hard reload in Edge is done by holding down the control key and clicking on the Refresh button that appears near the top.
I don't know how to do a hard reload on Android.

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Message 12 of 15 (918490)
05-05-2024 5:16 PM
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05-05-2024 1:37 PM


Re: Space Problem "Fixed"
Sorry, my fault. I used the fixed-width font Menlo for the code box, very similar to Courier New, but Edge doesn't accept that font. I've added Courier New to the font family for the code box. It should work now after a hard reload.

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