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Author Topic:   Did Jesus Exist? by Bart Ehrman
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Message 486 of 563 (917577)
04-10-2024 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 485 by LamarkNewAge
04-10-2024 5:02 PM


Re: Does Paul talking to "Christians" in Romans 1:3-4 prove anything?
So still no evidence?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Message 488 of 563 (917579)
04-10-2024 7:58 PM
Reply to: Message 487 by LamarkNewAge
04-10-2024 7:50 PM


Re: Does Paul talking to "Christians" in Romans 1:3-4 prove anything?
None of that is evidence for a historical Jesus

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Message 493 of 563 (917584)
04-10-2024 11:07 PM
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04-10-2024 10:20 PM


Re: Just to be clear when I lament close-mindedness and hostility to science
So still no evidence for the existence of a historical Jesus? Do you know what the topic is?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Message 496 of 563 (917588)
04-11-2024 7:57 AM
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04-11-2024 12:36 AM


Re: Just to be clear when I lament close-mindedness and hostility to science
Please provide source for the quotes you are using.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Message 503 of 563 (917595)
04-11-2024 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 498 by LamarkNewAge
04-11-2024 10:12 AM


Re: Just to be clear when I lament close-mindedness and hostility to science
Quote mining is very poor form. Misrepresenting arguments is poor form. Carrier is a mythicist. Casting any doubt on that us a lie.
All irrelevant any way. What Carrier or Price write is not evidence. Do you have any evidence?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Message 505 of 563 (917597)
04-11-2024 2:48 PM
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04-11-2024 2:12 PM


Re: Just to be clear when I lament close-mindedness and hostility to science
So when are you going to address the topic?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Message 522 of 563 (917614)
04-11-2024 7:24 PM
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04-11-2024 6:56 PM


Re: Richard Carrier: “I still counted Romans 1:3 as evidence for historicity!”
I have never told you anything about Carrier or Price or any other mythicists. I have no idea what you are going on about and doubt you do either.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Message 527 of 563 (917619)
04-11-2024 9:06 PM
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04-11-2024 7:28 PM


Re: Richard Carrier: “I still counted Romans 1:3 as evidence for historicity!”
How is that relevant? I own lots of books. I have four bibles. I have copies of the Communist Manifesto and Wealth of Nations.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Message 530 of 563 (917622)
04-11-2024 10:37 PM
Reply to: Message 528 by LamarkNewAge
04-11-2024 9:13 PM


Re: Richard Carrier: “I still counted Romans 1:3 as evidence for historicity!”
I just went through all my posts here and I mentioned Bayesian statistics once and that was downplaying it.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Message 531 of 563 (917623)
04-11-2024 10:38 PM
Reply to: Message 529 by LamarkNewAge
04-11-2024 9:52 PM


Re: Why I feel Percy could be very wrong about Jesus Historians
Still no evidence I see.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Message 534 of 563 (917626)
04-11-2024 11:34 PM
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04-11-2024 10:55 PM


Re: Richard Carrier: “I still counted Romans 1:3 as evidence for historicity!”
I started this exchange because you were running your mouth on Carriers application of statistics.
So this is a lie? How does this get to evidence that there was a historical Jesus. Tell you what. I am going to stop feeding the troll. Good day, Sir.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Message 538 of 563 (917631)
04-12-2024 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 537 by Percy
04-12-2024 7:48 AM


Troll alert
Hard to tell if trolling, delusion, mental illness or defect. Either way it is impossible to have a conversation that is this disjointed.
"The sky is blue"
"You stated water is not blue?"
WTF?
Done with this joker.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Message 559 of 563 (917660)
04-12-2024 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 553 by LamarkNewAge
04-12-2024 12:18 PM


Re: Troll alert
Really?
No one can understand your posts and now you resort to vile personal attacks.
Again, I am sure mods will take care of this. How about you leave me alone.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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